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<language>en-US</language><itunes:author>Kayla Concannon, MS, OTR/L</itunes:author>
<description><![CDATA[Hello!! I am Kayla Concannon (she/her/hers), a neurodivergent and bisexual occupational therapist, educator, researcher, entrepreneur, accessibility analyst, and human rights advocate near Philadelphia, PA. I am a white, bisexual, neurodivergent, vegetarian, petite, redhead, cisgender woman. I designed the "Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees" podcast for service providers to help them incorporate #NothingAboutUsWithoutUs in their work. Join us as we talk with folks about their lived experiences, and the importance of recognizing the value we all have. ]]></description>
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<itunes:name>Kayla Concannon, MS, OTR/L</itunes:name>
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<copyright>2023</copyright>
<itunes:subtitle>... a collaboration with Kayla Concannon, MS, OTR/L, Crash Consulting LLC, and Networks for Training and Development, Inc.</itunes:subtitle>
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<item><title>S2E4 - Interview with Elle Stanger - Stripper, Writer, Sex Educator</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 19:11:49 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:49:41</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast Series</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Elle Stanger - Stripper, Writer, &amp; Sex Educator</h1>
<p><strong><em>Part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: September 25, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: Elle Stanger, Kayla Concannon, LE&gt;D, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, disability, neurodivergence, advocacy, autism, sex work, SESTA/FOSTA, FOSTA/SESTA, AASECT, sex educator, discrimination, stigma, harm reduction, Oregon Sex Workers Committee, Institute for Secuality, American Association of Sexual Educators, Counselors and Therapists, Nikki Gilliland</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S02E04_Elle-Stanger.txt" rel="nofollow">Download Transcript HERE</a>.</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews Elle Stanger, also known as the Stripper Writer. Elle is a sex education and self-help podcaster, a certified sex educator, and a stripper with 14 years of experience. She discusses their work in the sex industry, their certifications, and their advocacy for decriminalization of sex work. Elle also talks about the challenges faced by sex workers, including the lack of legal protections and the stigma associated with their profession. She emphasizes the importance of consent and the need for laws to catch up with advancements in technology. Elle also highlights the intersectionality of issues related to sex work, including disability rights and community safety. She shares personal stories and lessons she has learned outside of formal education, such as the importance of presentation and the flaws in existing systems and laws. Elle encourages listeners to challenge societal norms and advocate for change in order to create a safer and more inclusive society.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions [00:00]</li>
<li>Background [00:38]</li>
<li>SESTA/FOSTA [05:15]</li>
<li>Misguided legislation and enforcement [07:20]</li>
<li>Consent, trafficking, violence [10:46]</li>
<li>Blame, stigma, barriers to seeking support [13:41]</li>
<li>Disability and sex [10:48]</li>
<li>The reality of sting operations [20:26]</li>
<li>Finances, ethics, and safety [21:32]</li>
<li>Supporting sexuality [26:01]</li>
<li>The challenge of being &quot;out&quot; as a sex worker [27:09]</li>
<li>Mandated reporting [33:26]</li>
<li>In-School learning [34:46]</li>
<li>Control and Safety [37:21]</li>
<li>Looking for relationships and loneliness [40:34]</li>
<li>Informal Lessons [42:34]</li>
<li>Being gentle with yourself [47:22]</li>
<li>Closing [48:32]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<p><a href="https://decriminalizesex.work/former-sex-worker-prevails-in-discrimination-lawsuit/" rel="nofollow">Article: Former Sex Worker Prevails in Discrimination Lawsuit</a>
<a href="https://stripperwriter.com" rel="nofollow">Elle Stanger - Striper/ Writer</a>
<a href="https://www.theytalksex.com" rel="nofollow">They Talk Sex - A Human Sexuality Podcast</a></p>
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<item><title>S2E3 - An Interview with Jacklyn and Greg Boheler - B3 Coffee</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 17:59:51 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:49:32</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>Part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Jacklyn &amp; Greg Boheler - B3 Coffee</h1>
<p><strong><em>Part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: September 25, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcripts</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S02E03_Greg-and-Jacklyn-Bohele.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE.</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: B3 Coffee, Jacklyn Boheler, Greg Boheler, Kayla Concannon, autism, disability, occupational therapy, employment, competitive employment, paid internships, natural supports, transition, systems change, occupational justice, community integration, belonging</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews Jacklyn and Greg Boheler, occupational therapists and co-founders of the non-profit organization B3 Coffee. B3 Coffee uses coffee to create inclusive community and promote occupational justice. The organization offers a range of programs and services, including a coffee kiosk, catering pop-ups, social events, and educational programming. Jacklyn and Greg emphasize the importance of community integration and belonging, as they strive to create a no-hierarchy structure between people with and without disabilities. Jacklyn and Greg leverage community partnerships, offer scholarships for their programs, and apply for grants. Jacklyn and Greg's work demonstrates the power of occupational therapy in promoting inclusion and empowerment for individuals with disabilities.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions [00:00]</li>
<li>Systems issues from all sides [02:17]</li>
<li>What is B3? [04:43]</li>
<li>B3 - Being, Belonging, and Becoming Better [09:28]<ul>
<li>Community based / Community oriented [10:17]</li>
<li>Building community [10:51]</li>
<li>opportunities for learning [12:05]</li>
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<li>launching pad / not an end destination [13:00]<ul>
<li>Living Your Best Life course [15:12]</li>
<li>Digital Literacy [15:51]</li>
<li>Allyship Education [16:39]</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>OTs for Neurodiversity Instagram [18:48]</li>
<li>In-School learnings [21:22]</li>
<li>Out of School Learnings [32:51]</li>
<li>Learning from different sources [43:34]</li>
<li>Wrap Up [45:13]</li>
<li>Three Quick Keys [46:26]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/b3coffee/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/b3coffee/" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2023/01/coffee-community-belonging-disability-studies-accessibility-b3-chapel-hill" rel="nofollow">Article: Local Nonprofit B3 Uses Coffee to Facilitate Community Across Neurotypes </a></li>
</ul>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S2E2 - An Interview with Jess Bauzá de García</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 18:34:27 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:56:35</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1><strong><em>An Interview with Jess Bauzá de García</em></strong></h1>
<p><strong><em>Part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date: </em></strong>August 4, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S02E02_Jess-Bauza-de-Garcia.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a>.</p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: Jess Bauzá de García, Kayla Concannon, Lived Expertise is greater than degrees, paper ceiling, unconscious bias,, body image, autism, ADHD, disability, stigma</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayal interviews Jess Bauzá de García (they/them), a queer, neurodivergent occupational therapist, social science researcher, and accessibility and inclusion consultant. Jess shares their perspective as a first generation academic, Puerto Rican, autistic, and fat person.  Jess prioritizes healthcare accessibility, sexual education, identity development, and mental health for minoritized populations like neurodivergent and LGBTQIA+ individuals.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions [00:00]</li>
<li>LE&gt;D – Current Reality [02:07]</li>
<li>Inclusive Research Methods [05:56]</li>
<li>Reasonable Accommodations [10:56]</li>
<li>School lessons – Critical Thinking [21:23]</li>
<li>Life Lessons – Unconscious Bias [30:09]</li>
<li>Key take-aways [54:11]</li>
<li>Closing [56:04]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources</em></strong>: (email, instagram, etc.)</p>
<ul>
<li>Instagram collaborator: jbdg.theot</li>
<li>Instagram tag: laurel_research</li>
<li>Email: <a href="mailto:jbdgtheot@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">jbdgtheot@gmail.com</a></li>
</ul>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S2E1 - Interview with Morénike Giwa Onaiwu - Advocate, Public Speaker, &amp; Writer</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2023 20:35:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:25:36</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Morénike Giwa Onaiwu - Advocate, Public Speaker, &amp; Writer</h1>
<p><strong><em>a part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast series hosted by Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: February 28, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D-S02E01_Morenike-Giwa-Onaiwu.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>:  Morénike Giwa Onaiwu, neurodiverse, autism, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting LLC, activist, author, public speaker</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews <a href="http://morenikego.com/" rel="nofollow">Morénike Giwa Onaiwu, PhD</a>, a global activist-scholar, author, and community leader who is passionate about human rights, justice, and inclusion. Morénike shares their experiences both personally and professionally.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions {00:00}</li>
<li>What I learned in school [02:50]</li>
<li>We are all teachers [05:00]</li>
<li>engaged pedagogy - Bell Hooks [05:45]</li>
<li>things are not always what they seem [07:12]</li>
<li>Entitlement [17:19]</li>
<li>Harm reduction [20:14]</li>
<li>My neurodivergent family [09:57]</li>
<li>violence in language [10:58]</li>
<li>textbooks and research can leave people out [13:14]</li>
<li>standards can be ableist [15:13]</li>
<li>Good Intentions [18:00]</li>
<li>Lived expertise is needed [20:49]</li>
<li>Closing [23:54]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Morenike’s dissertation: <a href="https://www.proquest.com/docview/2760578622" rel="nofollow">https://www.proquest.com/docview/2760578622</a></li>
<li>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/morenikego" rel="nofollow">@MorenikeGO</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morenikego" rel="nofollow">Morénike Giwa Onaiwu</a></li>
<li>ORCID: <a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-5889-8971" rel="nofollow">Morénike Giwa Onaiwu</a></li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_ZAoi3JMErSQ6IWH3kW5tw" rel="nofollow">Morénike Giwa Onaiwu</a></li>
<li>Email (via assistant): <a href="mailto:s.luna@advocacywithoutborders.org" rel="nofollow">Staff@AdvocacyWithoutBorders.org</a></li>
</ul>
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<item><title>S1E6 - An Interview with Asiatu "Coach" Lawoyin</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:19:15 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:43:25</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Asiatu Lawoyin, &quot;Asiatu Coach Lawoyin Empowerment Services&quot;</h1>
<p><strong><em>a part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast series hosted by Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: February 13, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D-S01E06_Asiatu-Lawoyin.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: Asiatu Lawoyin, Asiatu &quot;Coach&quot;, neurodiverse, autism, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting LLC, intersectional autist, relationship coach systemic oppression, intersectional education</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews Asiatu Lawoyin intersectional autist, educator, and coach. Asiatu is a multiply neurodivergent, autistic empowerment coach and educator. They specialize in both intersectionality and the neurologically oppressed. Asiatu shares their experiences both personally and professionally.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions {00:00}</li>
<li>White insecurity [02:26]</li>
<li>Go to the source [04:49]</li>
<li>nothing about us without us [08:20]</li>
<li>Respectability Politics [09:16]</li>
<li>Autistiphobia [15:03]</li>
<li>Entitlement [17:19]</li>
<li>Harm reduction [20:14]</li>
<li>Behaviorism and Compliance [26:02]</li>
<li>Capitalistic Intelligence [32:10]</li>
<li>Go where you're watered [34:44]</li>
<li>Getting Connected [41:16]</li>
<li>Closing [42:31]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Asiatu &quot;Coach&quot; Lawoyin - <a href="https://asiatucoach.com" rel="nofollow">https://asiatucoach.com</a></li>
<li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/asiatu/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/asiatu/</a></li>
<li>Ko-Fi - <a href="https://ko-fi.com/asiatucoach" rel="nofollow">https://ko-fi.com/asiatucoach</a></li>
<li>Twitter - <a href="https://twitter.com/AsiatuCoach" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/AsiatuCoach</a></li>
<li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/asiatu.coach/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">@asiatu.coach</a></li>
</ul>
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<item><title>S1E5 - An Interview with Maisie Soetantyo, Autism Career Pathways</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:38:27 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:21:11</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with <strong>Maisie Soetantyo</strong>, &quot;Autism Career Pathways&quot;</h1>
<p><strong><em>a part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast series hosted by Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: January 30, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D-S01E05_Maisie-Soetantyo.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: Maisie Soetantyo, autism, neurodiverse, Better Community Certified, Autism Career Pathways, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting LLC, ABA, relationship-based model, autistic inclusivity consultant, inclusion, advocacy, parent coach</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews Maisie Soetantyo, M. Ed., autistic inclusivity consultant and advocate, parent coach, and founder of Autism Career Pathways, an organization that strives to create a better ‘common language’ for differently-abled adults and neurotypical workplaces.  Maisie shares thoughts from her 30 years experience, as well as her autistic journey, both personally and professionally.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions {00:00}</li>
<li>Autism Career Pathways [01:00]</li>
<li>Job channelges for autistic people [02:42]</li>
<li>Building Bridges / building connections  [07:19]</li>
<li>Two Kinds of Smart [10:02]</li>
<li>Be Accountable [13:48]</li>
<li>Coming Through ABA [16:30]</li>
<li>Question Everything [18:00]</li>
<li>Getting in touch [20:03]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources</em></strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Maisie Soetantyo - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/maisiesoetantyo/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">@maisiesoetantyo</a> (for parents of autistic kids)</li>
<li>Autisim Career Pathways - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/autismcareerpathways/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">@autismcareerpathways</a>  /  <a href="https://autismcareerpathways.org" rel="nofollow">https://autismcareerpathways.org</a></li>
<li>Better Community Certified - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bettercommunitycertified/" rel="nofollow">@bettercommunitycertified</a></li>
</ul>
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<item><title>S1E4 - An Interview with Robert Schmus, "Empowering Through Advocacy"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2023 15:55:26 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:22:38</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast series with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Robert Schmus, &quot;Empowering Through Advocacy&quot;</h1>
<p><strong><em>a part of the Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees podcast series hosted by Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: January 18, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S01E04_Robert-Schmus.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: neurodivergent, adolescents, autism, Robert Schmus, Ayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting LLC, Schmus &amp; St. Clair, lived expertise is greater than degrees</p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Kayla interviews Robert Schmus, a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and autistic advocate. Robert shares about his journey of discovering he was autistic, and the impact this has had on his career working with neurodivergent adolescents.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions {00:00}</li>
<li>What I learned in school  [03:09]</li>
<li>Our teachers are those we meet [03:41]</li>
<li>Working with neurodivergent adolescents [06:47]</li>
<li>My diagnosis made things make sense [08:10]</li>
<li>I'm not the only one! [10:08]</li>
<li>Similar issues / struggles [12:22]</li>
<li>A message for other professionals [14:24]</li>
<li>Listen to the voices of experience [17:31]</li>
<li>Getting in touch [18:36]</li>
<li>Closing [21:48]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Linked In: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-schmus-msw-lsw-40598a52/" rel="nofollow">https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-schmus-msw-lsw-40598a52/</a></li>
<li>Speaker Hub: <a href="https://speakerhub.com/speaker/robert-schmus" rel="nofollow">https://speakerhub.com/speaker/robert-schmus</a></li>
<li>Schmus &amp; St. Clair: <a href="https://www.schmusstclair.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.schmusstclair.com</a></li>
</ul>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 21:24:47 -0000</pubDate>

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<itunes:subtitle>Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees... with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>An Interview with Bri Donnelly - Blind Side Strength</h1>
<p><strong><em>an episode of Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees with Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date:</em></strong> January 17, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: disability studies, Bri Donnelly, Blind Side Strength, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting, disability heroes, disability perspective, lived expertise is greater than degrees</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcripts</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S01E03_Bri-Donnwlly.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Summary</em></strong>: Bri Donnelly, Blind Side Strength, shares <strong>their</strong> perspective on teaching Disability Studies from a &quot;disability perspective&quot;. Bri, who is a blind strength and fitness instructor and college professor, discusses <strong>their</strong> journey of empowerment and being proud of who <strong>they are</strong>, while &quot;teaching back to people&quot; as <strong>they</strong> teach <strong>their</strong> Disability Studies students through a unique lens of personal experience.</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introduction [00:00]</li>
<li>Bringing lived experience to teaching [01:20]</li>
<li>Diagnosis view vs. lived experience [03:43]</li>
<li>What I learned from school... [04:56]</li>
<li>Media literacy [05:52]</li>
<li>What I learned outside of class [09:29]</li>
<li>The answer to everything is... &quot;It depends&quot; [09:59]</li>
<li>Being flexible with myself [11:00]</li>
<li>Making fitness accessible [11:49]</li>
<li>Liking the simple stuff [13:52]</li>
<li>The need for modern role models [15:05]</li>
<li>Contact information [18:54]</li>
<li>Closing [19:45]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/BlindSideStngth" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BlindSideStngth</a></li>
<li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bridonnellyy/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/bridonnellyy/</a></li>
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<item><title>S1E1 - Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees Podcast Launch</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2023 21:09:13 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:15:19</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
<link>https://lived-expertise-degrees.pinecast.co/episode/1e50e8ae/lived-expertise-degrees-podcast-launch</link>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees</h1>
<p><strong><em>with Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date</em></strong>: May 2, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript</em></strong>: <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S01E01_Launch1.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE.</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Episode Summary</em></strong>: Welcome to a new podcast, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, offered by Networks for Training and Development, Inc. in collaboration with me, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting. While the &quot;target audience&quot; for this podcast is therapists, researchers, teachers, and other professionals working with and supporting people with disabilities, I am confident that everyone can find important take-aways from these conversations. Disability can be part of someone's life regardless of their race, ethnicity, religion, size, gender, sexuality, age, socioeconomic status and every other type of factor or demographic information we can measure.  In this series, we seek to introduce you to the true experts in the field of disabilities - the people who experience these disabilities in their everyday lives. In this episode I offer an overview of what to expect in Lived Expertise &gt; Degrees, and answer some questions myself. These are the same questions I pose to my guests, so in all fairness, I should answer as well. We hope you enjoy, and take the time to subscribe to the podcast.</p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords</em></strong>: neurodivergent, social justice, ADHD, Kayla Concannon, CRASH Consulting, Networks for Training and Development, #nothingaboutuswithoutus, inclusion, diversity, disability, advocacy, self-advocacy</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index</em></strong>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions [00:00]</li>
<li>Why this podcast? [01:33]</li>
<li>Relationships and disability [04:43]</li>
<li>Who are the experts? [05:39]</li>
<li>The questions we ask [07:51]</li>
<li>My responses [10:15]</li>
<li>Closing and Challenge [13:14]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.crashconsultingllc.com" rel="nofollow">CRASH Consulting, LLC</a></li>
<li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/otkayla135/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/otkayla135/</a></li>
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<item><title>S1E2 - An Interview with Lyric Rivera - The Neurodivergent Rebel</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2023 20:39:51 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:21:31</itunes:duration>
<itunes:subtitle>with Kayla Concannon</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Interview with Lyric Rivera - The Neurodivergent Rebel</h1>
<p><strong><em>with Kayla Concannon</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Recording Date:</em></strong> January 9, 2023</p>
<p><strong><em>Keywords:</em></strong> neurodivergent, Neurodivergent Rebel, Lyric Rivera, Kayla Concannon, Autism, ADHD, Advice for service providers, neurotypical, neurotypical vs. neurodivergent</p>
<p><strong><em>Transcript:</em></strong> <a href="https://learning.networksfortraining.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/LE-D_S01E02_Lyric-Neurodivergent-Rebel1.txt" rel="nofollow">Download transcript HERE</a><strong><em>.</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Episode Summary:</em></strong> Kayla talks with Lyric Rivera - The Neurodivergent Rebel - about their journey of self-discovery and its impact on their life. Lyric is a trans-nonbinary, Autistic, self-advocate, who runs the internationally recognized NeuroDivergent Rebel blog.</p>
<p>Lyric is also the Owner of NeuroDivergent Consulting, and author of the best-selling business ethics book, Workplace NeuroDiversity Rising, praised in Forbes as “an excellent ‘how to manual’ based on lived experience and professional competence.” In today's interview Lyric shares insights into learnings during and after their<strong> </strong>school years, and the impact perceptions and labels can have, while challenging the limitations imposed on them by others</p>
<p><strong><em>Topical Index:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Introductions [00:00]</li>
<li>Why this podcast [01:24]</li>
<li>Who is Lyric? [02:08]</li>
<li>Elementary school -  context clues [04:51]</li>
<li>Being &quot;that child&quot; [06:14]</li>
<li>I can teach myself anything! [08:40]</li>
<li>Illogical expectations [10:18]</li>
<li>In competition with myself [11:46]</li>
<li>Apologizing for being me [12:54]</li>
<li>Advice for service providers [15:24]</li>
<li>Closing [19:24]</li>
</ul>
<p><strong><em>Resources:</em></strong></p>
<ul>
<li><em><a href="https://neurodivergentrebel.com" rel="nofollow">The Neurodivergent Rebel</a></em></li>
<li><em><a href="https://books2read.com/NeuroDiversity-Rising" rel="nofollow">Workplace Neurodivergent Rising - by Lyric Rivera</a></em></li>
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