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<language>en-US</language><itunes:author>Andee Schray, JD Otsuka</itunes:author>
<description><![CDATA[Andee & JD are two disabled theatre artists from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Join them as they discuss their lives, challenges, and the world around them. Brought to you by Blackout Theatre Company.]]></description>
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<copyright>Copyright 2026</copyright>
<itunes:subtitle>A podcast about disabled life.</itunes:subtitle>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Season Finale Thoughts</h1>
<p>We made it, folks! Welcome to the Season 3 finale. Today we're going to thank anyone who had anything to do with it and goof around.  Thanks for listening! And thank you to Blackout Theatre Company for producing the show for 3 years.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Season Finale Thoughts</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:37:24</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Talking with Leah Ellis</h1>
<p>This week, we welcome Leah Ellis onto the podcast to talk about getting diagnosed with autism as an adult, TMJ surgeries, and accessibility in the theatre community.  </p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Special Guest - Leah Ellis</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Talking with Leah Ellis</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S3E6 - Talking with Matt Loehman</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:40:53</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Talking with Matt Loehman</h1>
<p>Today we talk with our guest Matt Loehman about his life with achondroplasia and his work with Horizons of NM helping people with disabilities secure employment opportunities with state agencies.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Special Guest - Matt Loehman</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Talking with Matt Loehman</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:36:51</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Talking with Carey Schray</h1>
<p>Carey Schray helps us launch our series of interviews as we discuss her life with diabetes, the related complications, and fibromyalgia. </p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Special Guest - Carey Schray</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Talking with Carey Schray</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:25:41</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Disability and Myth</h1>
<p>On today's episode, Andee leads us on a journey around the world to investigate the representation of disabled people in mythology.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Disability and Myth</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S3E3 - Welcome to the Club</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:35:17</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Welcome to the Club</h1>
<p>Did you know that 25% of young adults will face a disability before they retire? In today's episode, we discuss how the disabled community is the only minority group that anyone can join at any time.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Welcome to the Club</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S3E2 - The Ballad of Andee</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 16:15:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:30:22</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>The Ballad of Andee</h1>
<p>This week, &quot;Talk a Mile in Our Shoes&quot; explores our other co-hosts journey into the wide world of disability. Come along as we share 'The Ballad of Andee!'</p>
<p>*Please be advised: This episode contains discussions of suicide. Listener discretion is strongly advised. </p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>The Ballad of Andee</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S3E1 - The Ballad of JD</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:40:28</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>The Ballad of JD</h1>
<p>We're back with Season Three! Kicking it off with a little get-to-know-me! Today's tale of disability comes from our faithful host, JD.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Production Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company </p>
<p>More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>The Ballad of JD</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S2E6 - Disability and Music</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:23:52</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Disability and Music</h1>
<p>This week on Talk a Mile in Our Shoes, Andee &amp; JD talk about famous disabled musicians. How does their disability affect their art? Does it even, perhaps, make it better? Let's find out!</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Disability and Music</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 17:00:14 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:38:43</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Independence &amp; Dependency</h1>
<p>What is independence? And who has it? JD and Andee discuss their own experiences with independence and dependency in this weeks episode of Talk a Mile in Our Shoes.</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Independence &amp; Dependency</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:46:15</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Hierarchy of Disability</h1>
<p>This week, JD and Andee discuss the hierarchy of disability and where we all fit within it. 
But be careful—it’s a trap!</p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Hierarchy of Disability</itunes:title>
<itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2025 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:24:25</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Safety for the Disabled Community</h1>
<p>In this week's episode, Andee &amp; JD talk about safety concerns for the disabled community. From fires to sidewalks to showers: it's a dangerous world out there. </p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Safety for the Disabled Community</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S2E2 - Sex &amp; Relationships for People with Disabilities</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2025 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:40:02</itunes:duration>
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<description><![CDATA[<h1>Sex &amp; Relationships for People with Disabilities</h1>
<p>Let's talk about sex baby, with JD and Andee. &quot;Talk a Mile in Our Shoes&quot; is back to discuss our most taboo topic yet; sex, romance, &amp; relationships in the disabled community. Heads up, this episode might get a 
little racy, so consider this your disclaimer if that's a sensitive topic for you, or if you're related to us. </p>
<p>Theme Music - &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors - Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer - Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company
More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Sex &amp; Relationships for People with Disabilities</itunes:title>
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<p>Jd and Andee are back and more disabled than ever! Come along with them as they explore a new crop of disability related topics. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and you'll have a real good time! </p>
<p>This week's episode of Talk a Mile in our Shoes takes us down the road of disability rights with the history of the American's with Disabilities Act, plus a personal conversation about how work fits into the lives of the disabled. </p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
<p>Produced by Blackout Theatre Company
More at <a href="http://blackouttheatre.com/" rel="nofollow">blackouttheatre.com/</a></p>
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<p>THE SEASON FINALE</p>
<p>In this episode, Andee and JD dive into disability, as seen on TV! </p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
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<p>In this episode, JD and Andee are back with a discussion lead by JD about intersectionality. Why be one thing, when you can be two, or three?!</p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
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<p>In this episode, JD and Andee check in on their health and contemplate accessibility. </p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp
Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka
Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
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<p>In this episode, JD and Andee continue their discussion about Person First vs. Identity First language. </p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
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<p>In this episode, JD and Andee talk about Person First vs. Identity First language. Are you a disabled person, or a person with a disability? </p>
<p>Theme Music &quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer Barney Lopez</p>
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<p>Theme Music
&quot;Take Stairs in Case of Fire&quot; by Wheelchair Sports Camp</p>
<p>Hosts &amp; Editors
Andee Schray &amp; JD Otsuka</p>
<p>Producer &amp; Engineer 
Barney Lopez</p>
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