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<item><title>S1E17 - E17 Understanding How Lawyers Charge for their time: The Hidden Costs of Time Recording</title>
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<p>I know a lot of people are cautious about getting legal help in their business because they're unsure how the fees are charged, how much it will cost whether they can afford it.</p>
<p>They've probably heard a horror story or two about invoices being double the initial estimate.</p>
<p>In this episode, I'm breaking down exactly how lawyers charge for their time as well as the disadvantages. But there is hope! Lawyers like myself and many other are moving to fixed fee pricing which gives greater transparency and confidence to business owners so they know exactly how much their legal services will cost.</p>
<p>If you're in Newcastle and want to join me at the Art of Sharing, you can find out more here <a href="https://cardillolaw.com.au/the-art-of-sharing" rel="nofollow">https://cardillolaw.com.au/the-art-of-sharing</a> </p>
<p>And you can now purchase a copy of my new magazine Semplice <a href="https://cardillolaw.com.au/shop/" rel="nofollow">https://cardillolaw.com.au/shop/</a></p>]]></description>
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<itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E16 - E16 Why you can't afford not to learn about copyright</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:50:51 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:25:56</itunes:duration>
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<p>In this episode I go through some of the key reasons why business owners &quot;put off&quot; learning about copyright and the risks of what can happen if someone copies your work.</p>
<p>If you'd like to come along to my next event, 'the art of sharing' you can find out more information and buy tickets at <a href="https://cardillolaw.com.au/the-art-of-sharing/" rel="nofollow">https://cardillolaw.com.au/the-art-of-sharing/</a></p>
<p>If you'd like to book in for a free 20 minute call, you can book in a time using this link <a href="https://calendly.com/emilia-cardillo/20min" rel="nofollow">https://calendly.com/emilia-cardillo/20min</a></p>]]></description>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E15 - Ep15 Why does everyone hate lawyers and used car salespeople</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 06:44:03 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:18:36</itunes:duration>
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<p>There have been many defining moments along the way in my career, but two moments stood out to me as a young woman that help shaped the way I wanted to show up as a lawyer.</p>
<p>I shared this story originally in my email newsletter. If you'd like to receive emails that are definitely not what you'd expect from a lawyer, you can sign up here <a href="http://subscribepage.io/CTAgSu" rel="nofollow">subscribepage.io/CTAgSu</a></p>
<p>If you're interested in coming along to 'the art of sharing' on 11 October 2023, you can buy your ticket here <a href="https://events.humanitix.com/the-art-of-sharing" rel="nofollow">https://events.humanitix.com/the-art-of-sharing</a></p>]]></description>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E14 - E14 Part 2 Flourish + Thrive</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 01:50:52 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:30:24</itunes:duration>
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<p>Part 2 of Flourish + Thrive</p>
<p>In this part, you'll hear some practical tips and advice for business owners on how to grow and thrive in your business with insights around bookkeeping, how a virtual assistant can help and also chatting about terms and conditions for your business.</p>]]></description>
<itunes:title>E14 Part 2 Flourish + Thrive</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E13 - E13 Part 1 Flourish + Thrive</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 01:46:54 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:33:19</itunes:duration>
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<p>In this episdoe I'm sharing the audio from my first event, Flourish + Thrive.</p>
<p>You'll hear from myself, Adrienne Donnelly, Sophie Brenton and Ruby Marsh.</p>]]></description>
<itunes:title>E13 Part 1 Flourish + Thrive</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E12 - E12 What I do when things get tough in business</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 01:03:53 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:18:41</itunes:duration>
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<p>There's no such thing as a perfect business. Life and business have up and downs, highs and lows and in this episode, I'm sharing what I do when things get tough.</p>]]></description>
<itunes:title>E12 What I do when things get tough in business</itunes:title>
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<itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E11 - What should you budget for when signing a lease</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 03:41:26 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:19:56</itunes:duration>
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<p>If your business is expanding and you're ready to move out of your home office or shared office, signing a lease can be an exciting step.</p>
<p>But there are lots of costs that can come as a surprise when you start looking for a space to lease.</p>
<p>I've created a Leasing Checklist which goes through the leasing process, what to negotiate and what to include in your budget. You can download the Leasing Checklist here <a href="http://subscribepage.io/QFcdCv" rel="nofollow">subscribepage.io/QFcdCv</a></p>
<p>Connect with me on instagram <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a></p>]]></description>
<itunes:title>What should you budget for when signing a lease</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E10 - What to do when you get asked "can you take a quick look"?</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 22:38:10 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:15:40</itunes:duration>
<description><![CDATA[<h1>Episode Notes</h1>
<p>Have you ever been asked by a client to "take a quick look?" or make a "quick change"? </p>
<p>Sometimes, the actual work won't take you a long time to complete, but it's only your years of experience and knowledge.</p>
<p>This can also look like 'scope creep'. Getting asked to do extra little things that you would normally charge your clients for. </p>
<p>If you want to know more about scope creep and some easy email prompts to use with clients, you can download my FREE guide "Stop Scope Creep and Get Paid More" here <a href="http://subscribepage.io/scope-creep" rel="nofollow">subscribepage.io/scope-creep</a></p>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E9 - How starting an e-commerce business helped me to start my law firm</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 23:53:56 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:25:59</itunes:duration>
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<p>I'd always had a dream to start a product based business. It wasn't until 2016, when I was a mum to a 2 year old and 3 month old baby that I made it happen.</p>
<p>It was a whirlwind of learning about marketing, design, social media, SEO and more but it taught me so many valuable lessons that gave me the confidence and skills to start my law firm.</p>
<p>Connect with me on Instagram <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a> or sign up to my email list <a href="http://subscribepage.io/CTAgSu" rel="nofollow">subscribepage.io/CTAgSu</a></p>
<p>If your a business owner looking for help with your business, you can also book in for a free 20 minute call <a href="https://calendly.com/emilia-cardillo/20min" rel="nofollow">https://calendly.com/emilia-cardillo/20min</a></p>
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<itunes:title>How starting an e-commerce business helped me to start my law firm</itunes:title>
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<itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E8 - Doubling my revenue in November and lessons learnt</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 08:08:36 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:20:34</itunes:duration>
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<p>I doubled my revenue in November and it was an interesting lesson! </p>
<p>After almost 14 years as a lawyer, there's parts of my job that come a lot more naturally and I've accumulated a lot of knowledge over those years. </p>
<p>In contrast, I'm 4 years in my business and still learning lots about what it takes to run a business. Spoiler alert, it's a steep learning curve!</p>
<p>Let me know what you thought by sending me a DM on instagram <a href="http://www.cardillolaw.com.au/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.cardillolaw.com.au/cardillolaw</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Doubling my revenue in November and lessons learnt</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E7 - Anti-Corporate Hero and being "not scary"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2022 21:49:45 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:22:42</itunes:duration>
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<p>What's the opposite of being anti-corporate? For me, it means being a small business champion. A career in corporate taught me that bigger isn't always better and there is definitely a place for small business helping other small businesses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a></p>
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<itunes:title>Anti-Corporate Hero and being "not scary"</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E6 - How I saved my client $7,000 in 1 hour</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:26:33 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:17:22</itunes:duration>
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<p>There's no tricks in this episode just some tips! It's not often I can share results like this because most of the work I do with clients is to help build confidence and understand their business better.</p>
<p>This episode will go through how I worked with my client to save them $7,000 and lessons from the client perspective and the business perspective.</p>
<p>Drop me a DM on instagram and let me know what you think. <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a></p>
<p>Or book in for a free 20 minute call to see how we can work together <a href="http://www.cardillolaw.com.au" rel="nofollow">www.cardillolaw.com.au</a></p>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E5 - What's the difference between a business name and a trade mark?</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 03:09:07 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:12:23</itunes:duration>
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<p>Ever wondered what the difference is between a business name and a trade mark?</p>
<p>What if you notice another business using a similar business name?</p>
<p>In this episode, I'm breaking down the differences and what you can do to best protect your business name. </p>
<p>If you have any questions you can always book in for a free 20 minute call where we can discuss your business questions and how I can help. Head to <a href="https://cardillolaw.com.au/" rel="nofollow">https://cardillolaw.com.au/</a> and hit "book a free 20 minute call".</p>
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<itunes:title>What's the difference between a business name and a trade mark?</itunes:title>
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<itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E4 - E04 Can I make Terms and Conditions "cool"?</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2022 04:14:57 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:18:33</itunes:duration>
<description><![CDATA[<h1>Episode Notes</h1>
<p>Can terms and conditions be "cool"? I'm on a mission to help business owners get excited about their terms and conditions and help them with their business.</p>
<p>You can find out more about my "Terms and Conditions done in a day" at my website, <a href="https://cardillolaw.com.au/terms-and-conditions-in-a-day/" rel="nofollow">https://cardillolaw.com.au/terms-and-conditions-in-a-day/</a></p>
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<itunes:title>E04 Can I make Terms and Conditions "cool"?</itunes:title>
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<itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E3 - E03 Falling off the partner track and becoming a corporate drop out</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2022 23:59:18 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:24:55</itunes:duration>
<description><![CDATA[<h1>Episode Notes</h1>
<p>Starting a business meant that I had to let go of everything I thought that would make me successful as a lawyer - a job at a big firm and the title of "Partner". </p>
<p>Being a small business owner means you need take the unknown path and define your own success.</p>
<p>Got a question or comment? Send me a DM on instagram <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a></p>
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<itunes:title>E03 Falling off the partner track and becoming a corporate drop out</itunes:title>
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<itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
<itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E2 - E02 Networking 101 and not being your guru</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 23:29:21 -0000</pubDate>

<itunes:duration>00:25:24</itunes:duration>
<description><![CDATA[<h1>Episode Notes</h1>
<p>I'm taking you behind the scenes of what I'm learning about podcasting and also what I've learnt about networking as a young lawyer starting my career to a business owner.</p>
<p>Connect with me on Instagram <a href="http://www.instagram.com/cardillolaw" rel="nofollow">www.instagram.com/cardillolaw</a></p>
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<itunes:title>E02 Networking 101 and not being your guru</itunes:title>
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<itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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<item><title>S1E1 - E01 Toxic Productivity and the business journey</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2022 09:21:21 -0000</pubDate>

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<p>Is your value tied to how much you produce in your business and life? In this episode, I share what I learnt about time and productivity as a lawyer and how toxic productivity can effect business owners.</p>
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<itunes:title>E01 Toxic Productivity and the business journey</itunes:title>
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