Welcome to the Regenerative edge, a business podcast for people exploring how to grow without extraction. Each episode looks at how organisations can work in ways that are ethical, regenerative, and grounded in the realities of people, place, and power.

Stewarded by Zebra Growth and hosted by Growth Director Moh Alhafi, the show brings together founders, evaluators, and practitioners experimenting with new approaches to strategy, culture, and impact. Episodes are concise, guided, and purposeful, designed to draw out practical insight you can absorb in a short pause in your day. Made in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem, who you’ll meet throughout Season 1 -Setting the Table.

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Jannik traces his journey from copying Fairtrade data out of PDFs and into spreadsheets, to realising that every metric ton of coffee, cocoa, or produce carried stories of people, places, labour, relationships, and change. From there, the conversation opens into a deeper question, what happens when we treat impact measurement not only as reporting, but as a practice of listening?

Together, Moh and Jannick explore the early roots of regenerative evaluation, the balance between scientific rigour and activist imagination, and why the stories behind the numbers matter if organisations want to grow in ways that are ethical, equitable, and grounded in people, place, and power.

This episode is part of Season 1, Setting the Table, stewarded by Zebra Growth and created in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem.

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At first glance, impact evaluation can sound technical, a set of metrics, reports, dashboards, and frameworks designed to show whether change is happening. But beneath that sits a deeper question, who gets to decide what counts as meaningful change in the first place?

Together, Moh and Jannik unpack the difference between reporting and learning, the role of evaluation in mission-led organisations, and the risk of impact becoming a performance of purpose rather than a practice of truth. They also explore the tension between genuine contribution and impact washing, asking how organisations can remain honest about what they are serving, who they are accountable to, and whether their stated purpose is truly being lived.

This episode is part of Season 1, Setting the Table, stewarded by Zebra Growth and created in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem.

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In this episode of the Regenerative edge, host Moh Al-Haifi finishes his conversation with Jannik Kaiser, co-founder of Unity Effect, by exploring what makes regenerative evaluation different from more traditional approaches to impact measurement.

For Jannik, regenerative evaluation is not only a way to understand whether change is happening. It is also a process that can give energy back to the people involved, create space for reflection, include different forms of knowing, and actively ask how power can be shifted rather than simply observed.

Together, Moh and Jannik explore what it means to listen without extracting, who should be included in an evaluation process, and how organisations can use evaluation to redistribute voice, responsibility, and agency.

The conversation also grounds these ideas in practice, including Unity Effect’s work with SEND in Germany, where evaluation became a way to learn from past projects while inviting policy actors, philanthropic actors, and intermediaries into deeper responsibility for shaping a more inclusive social entrepreneurship sector.

This episode is part of Season 1, Setting the Table, stewarded by Zebra Growth and created in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem.

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The conversation begins with a question, can culture be understood as a kind of technology? Not technology in the narrow sense of software or tools, but as something that shapes how people move, relate, decide, and lead before they consciously think about it.

Together, Moh, Renee, and Tania explore what it means to work at the speed of trust, why self-trust is essential to shared trust, and how regenerative organisations might learn to move more like a flock, guided by relationship, safety, care, and shared direction. The conversation moves between the micro and the macro, from the everyday relationships around the kitchen table to the wider systems organisations hope to change. Renee and Tania reflect on right relationship, co-creation, servant leadership, and why culture is not only held by formal leaders, but made through the daily actions, tensions, and choices of everyone involved.

This episode is part of Season 1, Setting the Table, stewarded by Zebra Growth and created in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem.

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