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1:16 Neurodivergent community building

14:24 Play therapy

24:06 From corporate a**hole to feminist humility

41:02 Conflict and inclusion

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“We can disagree and still love each other, unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” -- Robert Jones Jr.

2:19 Learning ASL

23:04 Leaving Evangelical Christianity

34:34 Identifying as disabled and autistic

41:57 Learning disability justice

58:54 Practicing disability justice principles

Rayne Depukat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayne-depukat/

Disability Justice Principles: https://sinsinvalid.org/10-principles-of-disability-justice/

Heather Watkins: https://slowwalkersseemore.com/https://slowwalkersseemore.com/

Robert Jones at Son of Baldwin: https://sonofbaldwin.com/https://sonofbaldwin.com/

Robert Jones' substack, "Witness": https://robertjonesjr.substack.com/

New Hampshire-Manchester ASL Interpreting Program: https://manchester.unh.edu/program/bs/aslenglish-interpreting-major

More on disability justice: https://stimpunks.org/glossary/disability-justice/

Review of research on fathers of children: https://academic.oup.com/jdsde/article/26/2/187/6102075

Research on hearing parents learning ASL: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10785677/

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Dandelion Seeds: https://sacdandelion.org

3:05 Andrea’s childhood catching lizards and being a good mormon

10:33 Why she was invested in Mormonism, and what made her leave

26:19 What is Mutual Aid and Dandelion Seeds’ work

37:35 Advice for getting involved and finding community

Help for survivors of sexual assault

https://www.childhelphotline.org/

https://protecteverychild.com/

https://rainn.org/

https://snapnetwork.org/resources-for-survivors/

https://www.revitalizewellnesscounseling.com/blog/csa-in-the-church

For leaving high control religion

Steve Hassan’s “BITE model” https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/

National Domestic Violence hotline https://www.thehotline.org/

Also see notes on Ep. 1 with Delia

Other mutual aid resources:

https://sacramentohomelessunion.org/

https://foodnotbombs.net/new_site/

https://www.radical-guide.com/listing/punks-with-lunch-sacramento-chapter/

https://www.sac-soup.org/

https://www.facebook.com/SactoPPC/

https://www.norcalresist.org/index.html

https://www.deanspade.net/mutual-aid-building-solidarity-during-this-crisis-and-the-next/

More about Dandelion Seeds

https://linktr.ee/dandelionseeds916

Dandelion Seeds is a grassroots mutual aid group working to provide food, water, survival gear, harm reduction, first aid supplies, and other small comforts to our unhoused neighbors in South Sacramento.

We (Dandelion Seeds) do street meals on average twice a month, with supplementary runs in extreme weather conditions and for special occasions. We hand out home cooked meals, water, blankets and sleeping bags, Narcan, baby wipes and other hygiene supplies, tents, tarps, socks, hats, gloves, flashlights, first aid, condoms, harm reduction kits, books, reading glasses, pet food, firewood, and more.

In addition to material needs, we make an effort to connect with the communities we serve. We spend time getting to know people, their families, their pets. We help with some basic veterinary triage and first aid, give basic general advice on pet and personal care. We listen.

In 2025, Dandelion seeds handed out 2,571 meals, 4,258 bottles of water, 790 electrolyte or hot drinks, 95 tarps, 34 tents, 485 packs of wipes, 64 blankets or sleeping bags, 1,020 doses of Narcan, 1,529 harm reduction kits, 311 first aid packs, 11,129 condoms, 1,248 maxi pads, 2,236 tampons, 4,575 pairs of socks, 1,054 hygiene packs, 100 storm kits, 75 emergency food bags, and 50 hot weather comfort kits.

We did 38 street outreach days in 2025, with 8 street team volunteers backed by a team of support from volunteers at home, cooking, sewing, knitting, building outreach kits, sourcing supplies, and, of course, making our work possible with money and supply donations.

We’re back at it already this year, with 6 street meals scheduled in the first 3 months of 2026. If you want to get involved, send us a message! Or if you want to help with funding, there’s two ways to get money to us. The fast way is to send PayPal as a “friends and family” transaction. That puts money directly into our working account.

https://www.paypal.me/DandelionSeeds916?locale.x=en_US

Alternately, if you’d like to make a tax deductible donation, and/or set up a recurring donation, you can use this link to the donation page set up by our fiscal sponsor, A Radical Guide. All of those funds, less the credit card processing fees, go to us. It’s a little bit slower, but it’s tax deductable, AND when you set up a recurring donation, it helps us even more because it allows us to make plans for ongoing expenses

https://www.radical-guide.com/dandelion-seeds/

And we’ve recently updated our wishlist. (We hate Amazon too, alas, they have the most functional wishlist feature for our needs. If you want to buy stuff for us from someplace else, get in touch and we’ll figure out the best way to make that work.)

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/2261OGZ8J8LBA?ref_=wl_share

Let it begin with each step we take,

and let it begin with each change we make,

and let it begin with each chain we break,

and let it begin every time we awake.

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1:46 Statement from Becca Good published in the Minnesota Star Tribune

4:39 “On Learning to Dissect Fetal Pigs” by Renee Nichole Macklin Good, read by Andrea Schrimp

7:06 “Good” by Andrea Schrimp

Sources:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/renee-goods-wife-releases-statement-about-ice-shooting

https://poets.org/2020-on-learning-to-dissect-fetal-pigs

https://www.startribune.com/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent/601559922

Where to donate:

Monarca Rapid Response line https://monarcamn.org/

https://givebutter.com/mntogether

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-south-high-school-families

From Ashley Horan, UU clergy on the ground in Minneapolis: https://www.facebook.com/ashley.a.p.horan/posts/pfbid041T5hNt4Ro7YV4BiDWjYL6vD88PzrtEn4HJB7YHhtvq311sjvC1utyCsDe9tBmt1l

MIRAC - Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee https://www.miracmn.com/

CTUL https://www.facebook.com/CTULucha

Interfaith Coalition on Immigration (ICOM) https://mnicom.org/

MARCH https://www.marchminnesota.org/

United Renters for Justice - InquilinXs UnidXs por Justicia https://www.inquilinxsunidxs.org/

Unidos MN https://unidos-mn.org/

CAIR-Minnesota (CAIR-MN) http://www.cairmn.com

Immigrant Law Center Minnesota https://www.ilcm.org/donate/

Immigrant Defense Network https://immigrantdefensenetwork.org/donate/

https://monarcamn.org/

Further Reading:

https://www.facebook.com/amightygirl/posts/pfbid0kKXgAJ13tkwKMqAcmJmFxnvsiB1aB2XGn9NPBmj6219JM8jp6rkGGkmbfMFz7wmyl

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/09/white-house-minneapolis-ice-killing

https://www.404media.co/dhs-is-lying-to-you-about-ice-shooting-a-woman/

How does an experimental music aficionado become a K-pop fan? Always on the search for mind-blowing sound (see part one of his story in Epiosde 3), Rob reoriented to fun and living in the present during the pandemic. This led him to K-pop and its spectacular, dramatic audiovisual abundance. We talk about K-pop’s relationship to 80s music, Rob's favorite bands, originality, whiteness, politics, and joy as a compass.

You can find playlists and reviews at his blog: https://theaquamarinelayer.blogspot.com/

Or on mastadon at: @toblaveistobluff@kind.social

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1:54 Pandemic reset

5:10 Intro to K-pop via homeschool conference

9:53 Twice

19:48 Diving into the deep end

24:05 Connection to past music genres

28:34 Functional versus spectacle aesthetics

33:26 Girls Generation “The Boys” as a quantum leap

38:32 Fandoms and politics

47:54 K-Pop Dreaming podcast

53:32 Joy as a compass

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Key links

K-pop homeschool: https://www.instagram.com/kpophomeschool/

Twice “Jelly Jelly”: https://youtu.be/WuLQ5iV3Q64

Dreamcatcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QD0FeZyDtQ

Red Velvet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBnGBb1wg98

Girls Generation “I got a boy”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ftOZBy0E

About “I got a boy”: https://web.archive.org/web/20230120020946/https://www.mtv.com/news/nol58l/girls-generation-i-got-a-boy-new-retro

K-Pop Dreaming Podcast: https://laist.com/podcasts/california-love

Maid: https://www.netflix.com/title/81166770

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More links

Homeschool conference: https://www.hsc.org/

YP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JYP_Entertainment

Itzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndvqTc4P9I

Black pink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S24-y0Ij3Y

Ministry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MH5c2sTvc

Guy Debord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectacle_(critical_theory)

Girls Generation “The Boys”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA_Tou-DPI

Exo “Mama”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6ZwnqZ7Wo

Loona https://youtu.be/zW-AIXAnLcE

NewJeans https://youtu.be/js1CtxSY38I

On BTS “Not Today”: https://muish.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/bts-baepsae-english-translation-ramblings/

Politics: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/arts/music/k-pop-fans-trump-politics.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4E8.mhXf.l7jYUvwCUm-q\&smid=url-share

“Flawless”: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/22/1177477181/beauty-culture-in-south-korea-reveals-a-grim-future-in-flawless

K-pop and feminism: https://web.archive.org/web/20211213160637/https://catapult.co/stories/dear-irene-im-still-learning-how-to-be-a-feminist-too-k-pop-fan-giaae-kwon

Rob has been searching for innovative, mind-blowing sounds ever since he was a little kid watching MTV in 1980s suburban Los Angeles. He tells his story of searching through rap, goth, metal, punk, industrial, electronic, experimental, 80s, and classical music. In part two we'll talk about kpop.

You can find playlists and reviews at his blog: https://theaquamarinelayer.blogspot.com/

Or on mastadon at: @toblaveistobluff@kind.social

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2:10 Thriller, Gangster Rap, Punk, Goth, Industrial, Electronic

5:53 Nine Inch Nails

7:45 Subcultures

14:08 Accessing music

18:11 Usenet, the changing internet, lull in the 2000s

22:02 “Have your kids shocked you with their music?”

26:55 KDVS radio

28:51 Losing a sense of direction in the musical archive

32:45 Pop sneaks in: 80s, Taylor Swift, and Spice Girls

40:22 Fandoms

44:20 The search for pure sound vs. big productions

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Key links

Thriller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller_(music_video)Run DMC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tjJ0G-8V4

Nine Inch Nails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak7BQaaizlM

Nurse with Wound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1efx5baXO-4

Helene Grimaud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujO9p1u70Ac

KDVS: (22-23) www.kdvs.org

Taylor Swift Reputation tour https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBk4xPhag-gT__wpprfT-7kTz7Wvl7oLF

Spice World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_World_(film)

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More links

Beastie Boys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkIB7YHbvc8

NWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZuxPKUVGiw

Eazy-E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYn6Vz9X0VQ

Public Enemy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP1lC0FnuI0L5mKZdSVAazv8Os0gk82DX

Merzbow https://merzbow.bandcamp.com/album/pulse-demon

Aube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpis9vRJmtM\&t=2313s

Incapacitants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSG3m5ujegA

Autechre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMT_NmagvZ8

Aphex Twin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwAngCPxnHQ

2:19: Defining unschooling 7:10 Journey to unschooling and living in the present 19:39 Sue’s background as an outspoken kid and psychiatric nurse 24:08 Changing culture by creating Unschooling Mom2Mom 41:33 Political speech and the typical suburban mom 58:28 Sue’s guiding principals

Unschooling Mom2Mom https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/

Sue’s podcast with quick unschooling tips https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/podcast

Sue’s substack https://unschooling.substack.com/

Homeschooled Teens book https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/product/homeschooled-teens-book

Strewing calendar https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/strewing-calendars

Home Education Magazine https://openlibrary.org/works/OL9625942W/The_Homeschool_Reader

The Unschooling Handbook: How to Use the Whole World as Your Child’s Curriculum Mary Griffith https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-unschooling-handbook-how-to-use-the-whole-world-as-your-child-s-classroom-mary-griffith/641440e51a6b16d8

John Taylor Gatto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto

Pam Sarooshian https://livingjoyfully.ca/blog/2016/01/eu002-ten-questions-with-pam-sorooshian/

Delia and I are part of the admin team for a free support group, Unschooling Every Family. The group helps families who are just beginning to learn about ableism and non-coercion. https://unschoolingeveryfamily.com/

2:17 What is Unschooling? 11:49 Delia’s background in a toxic family system and high control religion 20:48 Christian Campus Cult indoctrination in the 1980s 31:28 Deprogramming and the house of cards 46:05 Life after the cult 51:58 Reflective parenting 57:59 Neurodiversity and mentalization 1:09:28 The link between deprogramming and connection parenting

Help with high control religion and coercive control:

Steve Hassan’s “BITE model” https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/

National Domestic Violence hotline https://www.thehotline.org/

Mentioned in this episode:

Cults to Consciousness podcast https://www.youtube.com/c/CultstoConsciousness

Maranatha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maranatha_Campus_Ministries

Peter Fonagy discussing mentalization on “The Life Scientific” https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dpj2

Reflective Parenting https://www.reflectivecommunities.org/what-is-reflective-parenting

Reflective Communication in unschooling and/or neurodivergence https://unschoolingeveryfamily.com/start-here/4/#guide-3-connection-parenting-reflective-parenting

Treating Personality Disorders in Children and Adolescents A Relational Approach by Efrain Bleiberg https://www.guilford.com/books/Treating-Personality-Disorders-in-Children-and-Adolescents/Efrain-Bleiberg/9781593850180

Trauma Geek resources on the intersection of neurodiversity and mental health https://www.traumageek.com/

Rayne Depukat, neurodivergent and homeschooling coach, ASL translator https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayne-depukat/

Autistic Values https://neuroclastic.com/the-identity-theory-of-autism-values-are-not-opinions-to-autistics-we-are-our-values/

All Our Families: Disability Lineage and the Future of Kinship, by Jennifer Natalya Fink https://www.jennifernatalyafink.com/

What leads you in those moments when you realize, "You must change your life"? What joys, creative projects, values, or sense of purpose guide your next step and help you untangle yourself from bias and limiting beliefs?

Coming soon.

Archaic Torso of Apollo, by Rainer Maria Rilke