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Today's Unmute Presents community call was hosted on Tuesday the 6 August 2024.
Hello everyone, and welcome back to Unmute. Some announcements here at the top. First, we wanted to remind everyone that we're gonna take first questions first. So we're going to ask you to answer the question of the day and then one question. And if we have time and we get through everyone, then we can take second questions. We want to try our very best not to leave at the end of the call with leftover people that have their hands up that never got to ask a question. So please be cognizant of that. Also, please be respectful and let everyone answer the question in the same respect that you would want your questions answered. So give everyone that same respect and fair shot. The question of the day today is, what technology did you use when you were a child? What was the first technology that you used as a child? Today we have Michael Doyce with us. Hey Michael, how's it going?
Hey, Marty. Thanks for having me as always. I'm glad to be here. You know, I had to really think about this. For me, I think one of the first technology devices I used had to be the keynote companion. That was a throwback. I used one of those through school. I wanted to mention that we're about to publish our latest iAcast, talking about some changes we're making with iaccessibility. We have a new forum system, app directory, and all those things are coming online. Very reminiscent to what we had at Appleviz. So I hope you guys all take advantage of it. And you know, if you have any questions, you can get in touch with me, off list or off the call and love to answer any questions. And I'll throw it back to you, Marty.
All right, thanks, Michael. I want to remind everyone, if you want to see what else we have going on, you can always check out our website@unmute.com, dot show. And if you have questions, comments, feedback, anything like that, you can always email us at feedback unmute show. And as always, we have Michael Babcock with us. How's it going, Michael?
Come on. Some of you have used technology and you want to share what your first one is. I'm only seeing two hands, so raise your hand if you want to get in there. Really excited to hear these. For me, the Frank Franklin language talking dictionary was what I'm going to go with that or the brown speak. Those are both my, my old technology that I used. Man reminiscing, of course, use the Apple Iie as well. But I think the first one was they gave me a Franklin language talking dictionary, I think is what it was called because I'm a horrible speller. If you've ever emailed me, thank you, spellchat, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to interpret my content. Yesterday, for club members, we had our club unmute live call that we do once a month, and those are not recorded, so you cannot listen to those as a podcast. It's one of the perks of being a club member. Details at unmute show, but we did publish, technically working TW 72. Listen to your users, which ultimately was demossi and I chatting about future plans for projects we're involved in. Intent. Might want to go give that a listen. Also giving people the suggestion that, hey, maybe you might want to go listen to what your users have to say if you're selling a product or a service. On Saturday or Sunday, we posted digital bytes. Digital bytes. This week, we talked about screen input and the effectiveness of BSI, how to quickly empty everything in your mail's trash. And I gave in and finally gave a quick overview of the meta ray ban. So if you want to hear my opinion of the meta ray bans, go check that out. I know other people have done it, too, but I had to share my thoughts as well. On Saturday, club members got to their podcast, the latest episode of the Braille class. So you may be interested in that. If you need help, feel free to reach out. An email will go out this afternoon with a link to that replay if you don't have access to it. Friday, we shared an episode where Marty sat down and talked with, uh, Chris Peterson. I'd remember his last name from Penny forward. And, uh, we shared the financial independence, um, Penny forward contest. Now, if you want to know what Penny forward is doing, that's a great opportunity to give that a listen. Unfortunately, the contest wrapped up on Sunday, uh, but it's only six minutes long, so it might be worth you checking out to know more about Penny forward on Thursday. Penny, uh, Penny for no. We published at your fingertips with Chris, her braille then and now. She talked more about the history of Braille and the history of, of the UEB code and that transition. And then she also shared, again, BSI or braille screen input. If you want to give that a listen on? We did not publish a shell phone show episode this last Wednesday. So the previous episode before that was the community replay for the 30 July. And that's all I have. So I'm going to ask Sheila who our first guest is.
Janet.
Hey Janet.
Hello. Mine is the, um, um. The, uh. It was the top of my tongue. I just lost it. The math and speak.
Ah, okay. Okay.
And the Apple II is mine. So they also had, they also had a spell and speak, but I never got into the spell and speak. But I like the number stumper game on the, on the map and speak.
Hours of time spent playing Oregon trail on that Apple II. Just saying.
Yep. Thanks.
Thanks a lot, Jen. I appreciate it.
Yes.
Hey, Jeff.
Jeff.
Hello. And I really can't think of piece of technology like blind technology. I mean, doesn't have to be blindness any technology. I mean, I'll be dating myself here, but how about the fat pencil with a big chief tablet? Not familiar with it. Well, it was, it was a. It was a very bad joke, so I moved on. Michael, I was. Michael, I was hoping that you could consider doing a thorough explainer on the iOS 18 password app when it's available. Kind of bummed out many of the Apple viz. One of the things I love about Apple viz were the great podcasts and explainers. And hopefully you'll consider doing a doing one on the password app in iOS 18. I'm sure between the two Michaels here, we'll get something figured out. And a quick question. I love.
I was going to mention, I love that passwords app. I love that passwords app. I would love to do a demo of that. It's a fantastic app. I like how it's designed, personally.
Awesome.
I cannot wait. The latency in phone calls on my AirPods is kind of driving me a bit crazy. Can you guys recommend a wired solution? Yeah, earpods.
They have them in even USB C version now, so you can plug them directly into the bottom of the phone without having to use an adapter if you have one of the new iPhone 15s.
Well, I'm gonna get a 16. I'm still on a twelve Pro Max, so. Yep.
Well, I think they're gonna keep the USB C port for a while now. So if you get them, you'll be fine. I think they run around $30, the USB C version of them. Otherwise they're exactly the same. And there you go.
You're just talking about the buds that come with or they probably use the.
Ones that used to come with all the phones? Yeah. Okay. They used to be a headphone jack. Then they switch them to lightning. And now they have a USB C version of those.
Yep. Okay. And I assume there's a way to adjust volume.
It's right on in line. There's a microphone and then there's a volume rocker in line on them. So you can just go up or down. Right on the volume rocker that's in line to the microphone.
Excellent.
Thank you very much. Yeah, no problem.
Hey, Brad, who do we have in clubhouse?
We have a couple in clubhouse first. We have Debbie Hazelton. Go ahead, David. Debbie. Hey, Debbie.
How are you?
All right. It's good to say hi to all of you. And I know if any of what Appleviz was doing is in the hands of the Michaels, it's going to be superb because you're already doing all the good work. So my first technology, you know, I mean, one way I could say my braille writer was technology. My talking book machine, in a way, were. I mean, they were revolutionary in their own time. I also had. I had talking dolls like Chatty Cathy and Susie smart, I would say, but for doing my work and, you know, that kind of thing, I wasn't a child, but I would have to say the versibrail was a huge game changer in 86 for me. So, yeah, great stuff. I do have a question. Is it okay?
Yeah, go for it.
To ask. Okay. So I am starting to use PowerPoint for teaching and other presenting. And right now I only need to read from it. And I know that f five goes into and out of slide mode. Once I get into slide mode, I have heard different things like, oh, you have to then tab and then read. And then I heard today in another tutorial, just arrow down to get through the slides and do a space bar to get to the next slide. Any answers to this or suggestions?
So, my answer to this is practice it before you're live so you know for sure what you're doing. Because as we know, live environments can be interesting. I believe the last time I did a PowerPoint presentation, this has been years, probably five or six. You did have to tab in and then arrow down. However, they could have changed that. So if anyone else has any ideas for Debbie about how that experience looks, please raise your hand and we'll be glad to acknowledge that. But I do believe that you should practice it. Practice it and don't have any direct answers for you.
Okay.
Thanks, Debbie. Appreciate it, Brad.
Next.
Next we have Greg Wan Snyder. Go ahead, triple G. Hello, Brad and.
The Michaels and Marty and Sheila and everyone. Um, hey, um, so my first piece of tech, I'm going to go with the Becks program. Even though it wasn't, even though Parker brothers football was my first piece of talking technology. Um, the backs is where I could kick everyone's butt at lemonade stand and golf and different gaming like that. And that's the first program I really learned to work on. So anybody remember Beck's for the Apple II? I'm sure. I'm sure some people do. Anyway, so my question is this technology related? I have a million, a million zillion different cords now. I have a charger, you know, a desktop charger, but I just have a million zillion different cords that some are always charging, some are not. But the rest of them are just kind of strewn all over my desk, which creates for a chaotic work environment for me. So I was wondering how you guys, like I said, this is technology related, so I hope it's okay to ask how you guys deal with all your cords and all the millie, you know, charging cords and things like that so they're not, you know, all over your desk, and then they get on my floor, and then I need to worry about not running over them with my chair or, you know, them becoming afraid. So, yeah, I will say the one.
Thing that I have been doing is I've been adopting as many things as possible to USB C. And the reason why I say that is because one cable can do it all most devices, if they charge or need power, with USB C, you can do that with the cable. If you need to transfer data or anything like that, you can do that with a cable. You get a wall charger that has enough power to power all the things or have multiple ports in the wall charger, which will then be the same cable to do all the things, and external batteries, chargers, and all of that stuff, try to make them USB C. So that's what I've been trying to do. And of course, it makes it easy because you know that you just really only need to remember one cable for all the things. You know, even on my MacBook Pro, even though it has magsafe, I can still charge it with a USB C cable.
So, yeah, similar to what Marty said is I try to. I try to limit the cables that I have on my desk. And my desk is, if. If I was on video, people would be like, michael, what are you talking about? Your desk looks like a disaster because it kind of does. But when I can. When I can I will use, I have one USB C cable here that's connected to a cool device that hopefully I can talk about in the near future because it's a possibly new product we'll be selling at 80 guys that we're experimenting with. But what does is it lets you plug in multiple USB C devices. So I have one USB c to USb c cable plugged into it, and then I have one USB c to lightning cable plugged into it because I still use an iPhone 14 Pro max. So any of my USB c. So I have some blind shells on my desk. If I need to charge them, I'll just plug them into that USB c cable. If I need to charge my e reader, I just plug it into the USB c cable and unplug the blind shell. So that way I only have those two cables coming off the back of my desk. I need to run them under my desk to make it a little bit more tidy. But then really, it just comes down to cable management. There are some, some cable management tools that some people use. I don't know if Michael D. Does, but I just try to limit the amount of cables I have on my desk, and so. Good.
Oh, so I just want to, but I don't have, I'm terrible at cable management, and I deal with cable management a slightly different way, and that is I have designated parts of my environment, like my room or my living room, where I put specific devices to be charged. And that way you have less cables in one place that get tangled and messed up because I hate tie, I hate, you know, tying things up or doing things, you know, for cable management. So I have specific little charging areas where I have devices set up where, you know, they're typically, and I agree with Marty, you know, one cable type is the best. Like USB C for everything for me. But I tried, like, I may have my phone next to my bed where I charge it. I might have a place for my Mac, and then I have a place for, you know, other devices that, you know, you can, you can charge without, like, okay, is this cable for this? Is this cable for that? So it kind of helps you to be able to say, okay, this goes over here whenever I want to charge it.
That helps. Thank you, guys. I'm just working on creating it better. You know, being more organized is, is always better because you feel less chaotic. So, yes, you know, appreciate it.
Triple G. Thanks a lot. Who do we got next? Sheila.
Pam.
Hey, Pam.
Hello. I go far enough back that my first piece of technology was a Perkins brailer and as far as electronics goes, and I was not a child at this point. I was in my twenties. And that would have been the opticon.
Okay. Yeah. I never got to use one of those, but every person I speak to who's used the opticon swears by it. They, they thought it was the best.
As do I. Yeah.
Yeah.
So thanks.
Pam, did you have a question? Answer the question.
Oh, just wanted. Just wanted to answer the question of the day.
Well, thanks a lot. Just wanted to make sure we included everything. Sheila, who do we got next?
Thank you. Beth.
Hey, Beth.
You are muted. Beth.
Ok, there you are.
Now we can hear you.
Yeah. I would say my technology. Yeah, the talking machine, it was. I mostly played my records. I don't really receive books, magazines that were. I was a child, so they were too beyond, you know, too old for me. But. But then I had the talking book, the player in Ls, and then I had the braille or Perkins, but I remember back, yeah, I used that in high school with Apple two e and echo. I think it was also echo two. I don't know what Becks and Echo two really were. Then I went to the Franklin. You mentioned Franklin master dictionary.
Yes, ma'am. Yep. So it sounds like your first technology was a little while ago for sure. Well, thanks a lot, Beth, appreciate it.
But I have a question. Speaking of spell check, how do you spell check when you do like emails and like if you don't, if you don't spell a word right or if you're not sure?
Ah, very good question. So you're on windows or iOS?
This is iOS.
Someone else helped me with this one because I don't use spell check on iOS.
I think you can actually run the Grammarly app on iOS.
Oh, so I could download that?
Yeah, it's in the app store. Grammarly.
I did.
Oh, sorry, hold on one sec. Beth, I think Michael has a suggestion.
Yes.
So iOS has built in spell check. So as you're moving around, going by word through your email, when you're proofreading, it should say misspelled. And I believe you can use the flick up and down when you get to a misspelled word to pick a suggestion. If I'm not mistaken, I don't use that often, as with voiceover, but there is definitely a way. Every text field in iOS has spellcheck built in. So you should be able to use voiceover actions in the rotor to fix misspelled words.
So first you said swipe up and down, it sound like you said, well.
You need to change to probably navigate by word using your rotor. And as you navigate through your email, it will say misspelled and then the word. And then there's probably either through the voiceover actions or a part in the rotor where you can get the suggestions that you can select.
Okay, so I'll simplify the process for you, Beth. Okay, because I just tested it to make sure, because like Michael, I see where he was going from. It's slightly different for voiceover users. Um, if you use your rotor and you switch to spell misspelled words, that'll be a rotor option for you. When you get to misspelled words, flick down and that will take you to the next misspelled word. When you hear that, you flick to the right to go through the suggestions and then double tap to accept it.
And one of the thing is you want to make sure it depends on your opinion, what you want to do. But there's auto, auto correct, that it sometimes is automatically turned on where you don't do anything and it just automatically corrects the words. If it thinks that it's misspelled or pronounced differently or any punctuation is kind of not what it thinks should be correct. So if that's going to be a bothersome and you'd rather do it manually, then you might want to turn that off.
Oh, oh. So how do I find out if autocorrect design? I'd never hear anything about autocorrect.
So it's in the settings. I have to find where it is. But I can report back in a couple minutes. Just give me a second, I'll tell you where it is.
Okay. And also the double tap timeout, I still, you know, still when I want to like save to playlist or do anything, it doesn't, you know, when I double tap, it might say something else like.
So. So, Beth, we are sticking to one question per person. I will. If you want to ask about double tap timeout, feel free to raise your hand again. We can answer that because we do have several hands here. Sheila, who do we got next?
Humberto.
Hey, Humberto, how's it going?
Hi, can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
And I, well, my question of the day, I, like, miss so many of you. Well, I'm, first of all, much younger than so many of you. And I also didn't, I didn't grow up in the States. I grew up in Mexico. I didn't, I grew up in Mexico. So I didn't use any technology. The only technology, the only sort of quote, technology I used was a slate and stylus to do my homework and schoolwork and all that.
Okay.
In high school I started using a braille note and power Bt running Keysoft 7.2. Now I'm dating myself. But that was 2006. But anyway, I want to ask you a question for the unmute show. You know those new laptops that are coming out with the AI power processors and the new copilot key or whatever those. I was wondering what your impression of them was because I listened to on living blindfolded podcast Jonathan Mohsen was all about on all the rage talking about how the copilot key is. It's going to switch things up, we're not going to have an applications key anymore, blah, blah, blah. And we're not going to have a start menu. So if you guys have used any of the new AI PCs that have a copilot key, I was wondering what your impression was or is if I'm on the market for a new laptop, what do I need to look for in all this stuff?
Thank you.
Great question. I have not, and I don't think either of the other two here has used one of the new AI powered PCs. AI powered PC companies. Are you listening to this? We'd like to test them out, but the. Go ahead, Michael.
I do have some definite opinions about those PCs. Yes, because and technically, Michael, you have used the equivalent, and that is using parallels to run windows on Arm. On Mac, you're getting the same experience. You don't get the copilot key that you're talking about. However, one of the things to consider with these new Copilot plus PCs that are coming out is they are running on Arm and not everything is working in windows on them yet. They are great machines, they have a lot longer battery, but not all of your applications are going to work the same as they do in regular windows.
Does it mean that they're not going to be as accessible? Is that we were talking about?
No, no. They just may not run. Most of the time they will. But. So, for example, I'm a huge gamer. I love gaming. The Xbox gaming suite does not work on the arm systems yet. And there's also other parts of windows that do not work as efficiently as well. So they're still working on some of those things. The copilot key, though, is not just on the Copilot Plus PC. So new keyboards and I think Windows is starting to move the applications key to be the copilot key, even if it has was previously the applications key. From my understanding. That's a bit of a difference from what the Copilot plus PCs are going to offer.
Yeah. And it really comes down to your workflow. I will say all of the major screen readers are supported. Office is supported. Reaper will work on arm. And so really, you just want to check the tools that you use and see if they are compatible with the ARM processor.
Chrome was just recently made available on ARM PCs. You can emulate it, but it was, you know, just till recently that it was native sport. So that's why I said, just be cautious whenever you're looking to move to those at this point.
And thank you, Humberto, for your question.
Before we take the next person, real quick, let me just jump back to beth's question really quick. If you want to go in and you want to edit punctuation, grammar, spelling, all of that stuff on the iPhone, you would open up settings, you would go to general, you would go to keyboard, and then as you scroll down under keyboard, you'll see there's grammar, spelling, punctuation, a whole bunch of stuff you can turn on and off depending on what you want or what you don't want. And that's how you would do that.
Perfect. Thanks, Marty. Sheila, who do we got next?
Debbie McDonald.
Hey, Debbie.
Hi. I just wanted to say that my first technology was an Led calculator.
Cool. I like it. Not even a talking calculator, an led.
Calculator back in the seventies.
There we go. Thanks, Debbie. Appreciate it.
You're welcome, Melissa.
Hey, Melissa.
Good morning, gentlemen.
Hello.
How are you all doing?
Good, good. How are you?
I am blessed. I just got out of a technology class, so this is like, perfect timing.
There you go.
Literally. Anyway, my first piece of technology that I can remember off the top of my head was learning to use the computer for the first time and using a speech program called Doctor Pete. That was a very, very slow, very, very slow. It sounded like a robot. And I'm glad that that doesn't exist anymore. And I've used computers since I was about seven years old. So there you go.
Gotcha. Cool. Thank you, Melissa. Appreciate it.
And my question really quick is an iPhone question. So I'm trying to block someone from my contacts. Do I go into my phone app to do that, or do I go into my contacts app? I'm confused about where to go.
Did you receive a message from someone or an email? How did you receive the original?
Just this person's in my contacts, but I want to block that person because she messaged me like four times on Saturday.
So what you would do is you would open her contact up and then you would want to click edit, and then you could scroll down and hit block, I believe.
I didn't see one there. Are you talking about in the contacts app or the phone app?
Well, it's both. If you open up the phone app and then you go on the bottom row, I think it's the second one, the third one in from the right, and that says contacts. You click on that search for the person that you're looking for, and then I believe you can block them from right there. I'm not sure if I can't remember if you have to hit edit and then do it, or if you can just do it straight away.
Okay, but, but, okay, so you're saying that you have to go to your phone app. Well, or contacts, right?
Yeah, it's the same thing. Either way, you get to the same place. It's just they have a contacts link or menu item in your phone app. That way you don't need to go find the contacts app. It's kind of the same thing.
Okay, well, thank you, gentlemen.
Actually, if you open up phone and then you go along the bottom row, you'll see kind of in the middle, there's one that says contacts.
Uh huh. And I tapped on a contact, and I do not see block contact under there. Yeah, it looks like. Huh.
I know there's delete. There's delete contact in that edit box.
And you can block caller from the recents. So here's how I would do it. If she's calling you, go to the recents tab in your phone, find the place where she called you. Flick up to more options and double tap. Currently, that's going to change in iOS 18, but flick up to more options and double tap. And then at the very bottom of that screen is a block caller option. You can also go into your settings and block the caller from there. But I don't see a way to block them from the contacts app.
That's interesting, because what if they did not recently call you, but it was someone that you would want to block? How would you do that?
I'll look more into this, Melissa. But that's how I found it was go into the recent and then you can block them from the recents for sure. And I will tell you if I find another way here in a couple.
Yeah, this person did not call me. This person texted me.
Okay. Okay.
So that. That's a perfect thing there.
You might be able to do it the same way. If you go to the text message, and you flick up, you know, in the list, and then it says more info, and then I think you can do the same thing and block them from there.
All right, well, thank you, gentlemen. God bless.
Yep. Thank you, Gregory. Hey, Gregory.
Hello.
How are you?
I have rp, so I've had some sight. When I was younger, really, the first technology was my record player. I've wild a lot of stones and Beatles and Tommy James.
Awesome.
I think my first. I thought back my first successful piece of technology, my grandfather made me a headband with a lot. With a headlight on it. That's how I got around at night.
Now you can just buy one of those at the store. Can you believe it?
Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't do me any good anymore. Yeah. My grandfather made me a strap and a headlight, some kind of headlight. So that's the first piece of really accessible stuff I ever remembered, so. Cool.
Thanks, Gregory.
All right, Laurie.
Hi, guys.
Hey, can you hear me?
Yes, we can hear you.
I'm good. How are you?
All good. Good.
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can hear you.
Okay. To answer the question of the day, I didn't really get technology until I was in 7th grade, and. But I don't know if talking toys count, but I had two when I was a child, and then when I was in 7th grade, the two pieces of technology that I used at the time was something called a math. Pewter mathputer. And that was not like a computer at all. It was round. It had a screen much like a calculator screen has. And its controls were on the base of the unit, so it was all in one piece, kind of. And it was globe shaped. If anybody has had a globe that you spin around, it had that kind of a base to it, but it did not talk. And I also used my first manual typewriter, both in 7th grade, 8th grade, and 9th grade. And so that's past childhood, of course. My question is, I asked this question a while back, but I don't remember your answer. And my mind is like a sieve today. If one of my friends and I love to text each other, and our conversations can get really long in the messaging app sometimes and about a mile long. And you gave me some advice on how to go back up to edit, to delete the conversation, but I don't remember the steps. So can you tell me that again?
You want to delete the whole conversation sometimes, is what you're saying?
Yes, the whole conversation. So I want to find edit. I want to find edit. And then because I find edit to, you know, find the new message, and then I reply to it, but then I'm at the bottom of the conversation, and I want to get back up to the top where edit is.
If you hit the back button and get out of the conversation so that you're in the list of all the people that have sent you a text message, you go to that message with that person and do a flick up, and you can just delete the whole thing.
Okay, cool.
Yep, that's it.
Because I want to do, like, a shortcut instead of going, you know, delete each individual message.
And it's like if you're. If you're a list of people. So you find that conversation in the list and then put your finger on it, and I flick up until you hear delete, and then do a single finger double click, and it will delete the whole thing.
Cool. Okay. Wow. Thanks much.
Yep. Good luck.
Anytime. Thank you. Thank you, guys.
Rich.
Hey, Rich. You guys and Sheila and everybody. The first piece of technology that I used was the sharp talking calculator. They bought them for us at work in the early eighties. Before that, we did math on an abacus, so they bought us the sharp talking calculators. And I used that for over 20 years. And when I retired in 2008 and gave it back, it was so dirty that my supervisor didn't want to touch.
It, which I thought was hilarious.
That's awesome. Yep. Good old talking calculators. I forgot about those. Yeah. Okay, perfect. Thanks, Rich.
Thanks, Rich.
Doc.
Hey, doc. Well, good morning. I think my first piece of technology, electronic, anyway, was what we used to affectionately call a trash 80. That was the. Oh, I can't even think of the company now. They're out of business. It used to be the. The electronic store where you got everything.
Oh, radio shack.
Yeah, Radio Shack. Trsh or something.
80.
But we call it a trash 80 computer, and it had a separate cassette drive for. For its instructions. Yeah, for Debbie on. On PowerPoint for advancing. I used to always use f five to go to the next slide or to open the slide presentation. No, to go to the next slide. Gotcha. Sweet. Well, we will have to play with that a little bit to see how that looks. I need to play with PowerPoint more. So appreciate her question. And thanks, doc. Appreciate you as well. Yeah, we appreciate you guys, too. You're. You're a real asset. Well, thanks.
We appreciate it.
Sheila, who do we got next?
Stacey.
Hey, Stacey.
You're still muted. I got a complaint with be my eyes. I can't get my password changed to what I would like it to be changed to because they will just change it to whatever they want to change it to. And I can't talk to the staff there. All I can do is just say, change my password. Well, anyway, I can't talk to them. So that's my number one complaint with that. And. But yeah, I can't talk to anybody at be my eyes. I can't talk to any person at be my eyes.
And have you tried emailing support@bemyeyes.com, by chance, Stacy?
Yes, yes, yes, we've done that.
Well, that's the only suggestion I have because they do not have a phone number.
Yep. They don't have a support network person there to talk to.
Yep. And that's the case with a lot of companies nowadays is they don't offer phone support. So appreciate that and thanks for letting us know. Maybe try changing the password again, see if you're able to get into there. And thanks a lot, Stacey.
Myself, we tried with a computer too. Can't do it with the computer. Can't do it.
Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, let's. What? What? Well, let me ask you real quick, what problem are you facing with changing it? Are you not getting the link or does it not like your password?
It will not allow me to change it at all.
Okay, so what will not allow you to change it? Okay. I I'm not sure that I can help you then, because I'm not understanding where you're running into a problem with changing it.
It won't let me change it, period.
Okay.
I can't even get into the link to change it. Well, I can't. And then when my sister tries to change it, it just won't accept anything.
Gotcha. Yeah, there could be a lot of different issues with that. Unfortunately, the only suggestion I have for you is to send an email to support it, bemyeyes.com.
And they just don't just say, oh, I reset it too. I reset it and it didn't. And I don't even know what the password is. They don't even give it to give me the password word.
Gotcha. Well, unfortunately, we're not going to be able to help you with this. Sheila, who do we got next? Hey, Petra.
Hey, Petra.
I think it's Petra or Teresa.
Hey there, I'm here.
Hey, Petra.
Hi there. My first technology would probably be like Pam's. I think she said the opticon. And the other would be like yours, Michael, the Franklin language dictionary. I got that and loved it. We used to play hangman on it all the time.
Those games, a lot of fun.
I do have a question, and it's one that I've been really frustrated with a long time, and I'm not sure there's an answer. When I dial phone numbers, I can dial, I use touch typing on an iPhone 13 many, and I can dial a phone number just fine. But when it goes to inserting, like, you know, to listen to this, press one or give us a rating, one to five or whatever, and the other number after the phone call goes through, those numbers are very faint. I use my AirPods to be able to even dial into the zoom call because once I get in and pass the phone number and it says, put in your, your id, I can't hear the numbers that I'm dialing.
You need to turn your voiceover volume.
Up, then the voiceover is loud enough. Believe me, it's plenty loud. And I've turned audio ducking on and off and it doesn't seem to change anything.
So, yeah, that the, so I just tried it and I think I know what you're are experiencing. So when you make a phone call and the keyboard's on screen, you can't hear voiceover when speak, the numbers for you that you're sliding your finger over, is that correct?
That's correct.
So what you can try is as you're sliding your finger around the screen and you faintly hear voiceover talking. Yes, voiceover is loud enough when you're not on a phone call, but try at the same time pressing your volume up button when voiceover is talking. And that should adjust the volume up because I was just able to do that on this one on my phone. And that did turn the voiceover volume up louder on a phone call.
Perfect.
Give that a try, see if that works. Yep, perfect. Well, thanks.
Great. Thank you.
Have a good one.
I will, thanks.
Hey, Carla.
Hey, there. I just, I enjoy this, and I'm very sad that next week will be the last time I can come because I go back to school after that.
Then you got to download the podcast, and then you can hear it. It won't be live, but at least you can hear the show.
I like to be able to ask questions and everything. Anyhow, first, technology, if you just count, like access technology because there were all kind of CNC toys and chatty Cathy's and record players and radios. I'm not counting that stuff. Okay. I would say was the opticon I was in the program to test, you know, to beta test. I was in that program. You could get an opticon for $100 if you were in a training pilot program at the school for the blind back in 73, 74. And then my talking Elmer El 640 calculator, I called him Elmer Lloyd. In fact, I got Elmer Lloyd II from Harboldt company. They had a couple left and mine quit, so I got a new one. And then the Versa braille, I'll say the Versa braille too, because you could go on the bulletin boards and things. And then I have some advice for the person that was wondering how to keep track of chargers. What I do is I keep them all in Ziploc bags, the Chargers, the cable for each thing, and I label each one in braille. And then I always put them right back in that bag. And I keep all the chargers in the bags in a case and I never lose them that way. And my question for you today, and this is something that's really frustrating me, how do you, and let me explain how this happens. How do you turn off auto numbering in a word document? Like when you're in word and, you know, if, like I write your homework assignment is as follows. Number one, then I do a paragraph, two spaces. Number two. And then when I'm done, let's say I have given them five things to do, then I space, and all of a sudden it'll say number six. And it'll put numbers in that. I don't want, you know what I mean? And I want to put in my own numbers. I don't know if this is making sense to you. I've had to go 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. But I would like to know, and I don't know if it's where you do the bulleting or if it's, if there's an auto formatting correction or how you do that. And if somebody, I have my note taker here, so I'm ready to write down instructions because I'm going to, you know, school's going to be starting and I'm running into all this again.
So, so there is a way to turn it off. And I'm looking in word right now to see if I can find the exact path to give you. So if you stick around, we'll, we'll see if we can give it to you. In the meantime, if you put in one period and you write, your first assignment is, and then you hit enter, it's going to say two. And then you probably were typing space, too. Before you tap space, if you just tap that backspace key, and then you can write two period, and then hit entertainment, and then the auto numbering will stop. So again, put one period space. Writing your first line, hit enter. It's going to auto number two. But if you tap your backspace and then type in your next line of content, auto numbering will not continue. And stick around and I'll find the path on how to actually turn that off. But that's how to, how to get around the issue.
In the meantime, it's one period space and then what you need. And then when you do your double carriage return, then you, when it says to backspace over it, yep, just hit.
Backspace once and that'll delete it and stop it from auto numbering the next lines.
Oh, wait, you guys are so intelligent. I think you should get a raise.
Well, thank you, Carla. I appreciate it. And she enter twice and the six will disappear. Enter twice and yeah, if you. That is a good point too there, doc. If for some reason you forget, Carla, to hit the backspace on the next line when you get done, just hit enter twice and the it'll stop auto numbering for you and give you a blank line and it will leave off on the last one that you had text after. So there's a couple of ways to solve it. Sheila, who do we got next?
Area code 757 ending in zero, three, eight. Can you tell us who you are, please?
Hey, I'm Barb.
Hey, Barb.
Hey, Barb. How are you?
Hey, y'all guys are great. I've been listening to your podcast forever and taking notes and all that kind of stuff. My question, my first technology, probably an old board slate school for the blind way back in the fifties. And then the second one was, I guess, the good old opticon. I used it in my job for over 30 years, so I still have one to this day. My question is, my aunt Key doesn't speak anymore. I think I accidentally disengaged, or I don't know if that's a proper word, my caps lock key, sticky keys, and jaws. You know where it says yes or no? I think I accidentally disengaged that. But when I try to hit alt f four, it. The alt key doesn't say anything. And my sighted friend said it mutes a computer. And y'all kind of help me out.
Your sighted friend says it mutes the computer?
Yes.
I don't have an answer because I think there might be more than one problem with that. You are a jaws user though, correct?
Correct.
Okay, so what I would recommend doing is reaching out to Vispero technical support. And if you have a way to take notes, I can give you that number if you don't have it and ask what's going on with your alt key not being spoken by jaws, and they should be able to help you with that.
All right, thanks.
Perfect. Thanks a lot.
Diane.
Hey, Diane.
Okay, can you hear me?
Yes, ma'am.
All right, well, let's see. I don't know. I mean, my first, probably my real first technology was a radio. You know, we had a radio with two knobs on it, one to turn it on and off and up, volume up and down, and one to change the station and learn how to use that pretty early. But my first adaptive technology, I think, would have been a telesensory systems speech plus talking calculator. And, you know, I had that in 1976 when I was in Arkansas taking the IR's taxpayer service representative class. My counselor got it for me. And, of course, it was really quite easy to use and everything, and I had to take a test with it and got 100. But, you know, they felt that we needed a backup because the calculator was so new. They thought if it broke or something, we'd be up the creek on the job. So I had to learn the Cranir abacus and take a test on that and score at least 90%. So they didn't make it easy. But. But my calculator never broke. And one of my classmates said, well, if my calculator breaks, I'll just buy another one. Yeah.
Appreciate that, Diane.
Pardon me?
I said, we appreciate that. And it sounds like a calculator was some people's first technology.
Yep.
Perfect. Diane, who do we got next?
Sheila, you have eight minutes.
All right, thank you.
I want to say 970, ending in 874, is Catherine. Catherine, hi. This is Katherine. Hello. To answer your question, hi. My first piece of technology was a visual tech machine, and I got. It wasn't even in production to be sold. I took the one off the factory floor. It was 1973. Between graduation of high school and going to college, we flew to LA. We met with. I can't remember the gentleman's name. We even went out for lunch, and then they boxed it up and we put it on an airplane. We flew back home. So that was my first piece of technology, and I used it as an undergraduate in nutrition, and so had to take chemistry and microbiology and all the hard sciences. My second piece of equipment was the classic apex.
Great. Well, thank you.
Yeah, no, and I learned braille when I was 40.
Wow.
So I got my own teacher from the school district. Thank you very much.
All right, you're welcome. All right, who do we got next?
I think Pam, 425, ending in 191. Can you unmute and tell us who you are, please? Hello, it is Pam. I have a question. I don't know if you can answer this or not, but earlier my echo device got knocked offline and I had it set to where when you call it by its wake up name, it go boom. You know, make that tone now it's not doing it.
You might need to go in the app on your phone to fix that.
Okay. Do you know where in the app is where I wanted to ask?
I am not 100% sure, Michael.
Do you know you? Not off the top of my head, but I would explore the app and hopefully someone might have some suggestions or they can reach out to us and we can get in contact with you. Okay.
Okay, thank you.
No worries.
No problem.
All right, doc. Right.
There we go. Hello.
We are running out of time, so we're trying to move a little quick, but how can we help you?
I just got a brand new Victor stream, third gen, and I used the human wear companion to add some audio books because I'm still waiting for bar to get that part fixed. But I added something, audio books. And then I sent those through. But when I go into the book section, it shows SD, and then it says internal, but all it does, it says internal one, internal two, but no name for the book. And are these books coming from audible or bard? Oh, these are MP3 s. They're MP3 s. Gotcha. So, unfortunately, I don't use a victor, so I'm not going to be best of help to you. I can suggest reaching out to humanity where and see if their support team can explain how to properly get them labeled. I believe there's probably an issue with the way that the MP3 s are tagged, so I'd reach out to humanware and see what they can provide. You okay?
Yeah.
For the lady before me, she can go to tell her to go into Alexa, go to devices settings, and down to audio. Beautiful devices settings, and then audio. Yeah. Appreciate that. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Before we jump onto the next question, I know we're running up on time, but to go back to Diane, if you go to your file menu of Microsoft Word, you go to options in the categories list, go down to proofing tab, once to the autocorrect option, and press the spacebar on that. This puts you into a multi page dialog. You'll want to use the control tab until you get to the auto format as you type tab, and if you press your tab button a couple of times, you'll find that there is a checkbox here that says automatic bolded list. You can. Oh, I'm sorry. This was for Carlin, not Diane. But there's a automatic bulleted list that you can check and uncheck. And then there's an automatic numbered list that you can check and uncheck. Once you've done that, go ahead and tab over to the okay button, hit space bar on that, and then that should solve that problem for you.
Okay. I didn't know I was not writing because you said Diane.
Yep. So. So, Carla, it's on the podcast. But in summary, if you go to the file options in Microsoft Word. So go up to file, go down to options, locate, proofing, proofing tab once, and you'll get to the autocorrect options. Press spacebar on that control tab until you get to auto format as you type.
So file options proofing. Then you. After that, you.
Then tab once, tab once, and get to the autocorrect options button and press your spacebar. And then control tab until you get to auto format as you type, type tab, and then tab through and uncheck the checkboxes you don't want there to.
You control tab to auto format as you type and then what you want.
Yes, ma'am. So that'll turn that off. And let's see, we. We can take probably one more hand. So who do we.
And then your last new hand, Teresa.
Hey, Teresa.
Okay, I'll be real quick. I'm glad I'm not the oldest person on this call, but I do remember the talking barbies and the talking dolls Caddy Kathy. And I remember I thought when we could get cassette players to play our books, you could carry them around. That was, you know, pretty innovative. Of course, I had a. Well, I used a Perkins braille writer in school. I thought the electric typewriter was a pretty cool piece of technology because it could type faster. You could type faster on it than you could a manually, for sure. You typed on it. And I remember the talking calculator when it first came out. It was big and bulk there.
There you go, Teresa. Well, thanks a lot for that. I'm going to hand it back over to Marty so you can wrap it up. We appreciate each of you for joining us today. And, Marty, go and wrap it up.
All right. Thank you, as always, to Brad and Sheila for always helping us out, and we appreciate all of what you do to be a part of our team and helping us and everyone else. If you want to find out what we got going on, you can check out our website at Unmute show and if you have questions, comments, anything like that, you can always email us at feedback at Unmute show and everyone, have a great week and we'll see you next time.