WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.000 Hey everybody, and welcome back to 'Mysteries of the Mind", (couch squeaking) a true crime podcast hosted by me, Daphne 00:06.000 --> 00:09.000 St Clair-- --and myself, Preston Knight. 00:09.000 --> 00:21.000 Today, we're continuing our coverage of the "Doctor Love" case, following the story of a psychiatrist from a rural Philadelphia asylum in the 1950s, who ran away with one of her patients. 00:21.000 --> 00:28.000 We've managed to get our hands on never before seen records, lost to history when the asylum attempted to cover up the scandal. 00:28.000 --> 00:29.000 We're discussing 00:29.000 --> 00:36.000 Doctor Love, a.k.a. Doctor Audrey Ann Burnett, and the subject of her illicit affair, 00:36.000 --> 00:38.000 Hazel Mary Finley. 00:38.000 --> 00:42.000 Last time, on "Mysteries of the Mind," we started to see what led to them running away together. 00:42.000 --> 00:49.000 Today, we cover the plan, its execution, and the last time anyone ever heard from Doctor Burnett and Hazel. 00:49.000 --> 00:53.000 We'll go deeper into Hazel's psyche, and the relationship of Doctor Love. 00:53.000 --> 00:54.000 Stay tuned! 01:09.000 --> 01:11.000 Maya Appavoo presents, 01:11.000 --> 01:14.000 Doctor Love. An audio drama. 01:14.000 --> 01:17.000 Episode Six: "Cold Trail" 01:18.000 --> 02:14.000 A full list of themes, topics, and content warnings can be found in the episode description. (clearing throat) 02:15.000 --> 02:19.000 Okay, hello, time for your guys' favorite segment, 02:19.000 --> 02:20.000 Mindful Musings. 02:20.000 --> 02:29.000 Yeah, so this is the part of the episode where we go through all the comments you guys had on the last episode, and we pull the questions and comments we got from you guys, and we discuss. 02:29.000 --> 02:39.000 Ready to get into it? Sure am. Alrighty, first up, we've got @fishNchips5083, who asked, "Hey guys, big fan of the show! 02:39.000 --> 02:44.000 I think you guys said that the clips we're listening to were all recorded on a tape deck. 02:44.000 --> 02:50.000 I was wondering if you guys were going to get the corrupted tape restored, so we can hear what's on it?" 02:50.000 --> 02:53.000 Oh, okay, yes, so these are all recorded on tape decks originally. 02:53.000 --> 03:01.000 So the family had digitized everything at some point, so they had just emailed us copies rather than mailing us the physical copies, which would-- That would mean they would also lose access to it. 03:01.000 --> 03:02.000 Exactly. 03:02.000 --> 03:06.000 So, no, we unfortunately can't have it restored. 03:06.000 --> 03:12.000 I don't know if the family even still has the physical copy, so it might just be totally lost to time. 03:12.000 --> 03:14.000 Yeah, that's kind of sad. 03:14.000 --> 03:19.000 Anyway, moving on to the next one, this comes from one of our Patreon, uh... 03:19.000 --> 03:25.000 Patreon supporters, Lee, who asked "Hi, Preston and Daphne, love the show! 03:25.000 --> 03:30.000 I was wondering if you have any more details about the relationship between Doctor Jackson and Doctor Burnett? 03:31.000 --> 03:33.000 It seems like they've got beef. 03:33.000 --> 03:35.000 Again, love the show." 03:35.000 --> 03:38.000 Pretty much what you've heard is what we have. 03:38.000 --> 03:50.000 The only thing we haven't read out, like, on the show is Doctor Burnett's, um, employment contract and all of that paperwork, where I did notice that she had a very long probationary period, but that's about it. 03:50.000 --> 03:50.000 Ah, how long? 03:50.000 --> 03:54.000 It was something like 12 or, like, 18 months. 03:55.000 --> 03:56.000 Hmm. Yeah, 03:56.000 --> 03:59.000 I wonder if that's normal for the period or for psychiatrists. 03:59.000 --> 03:59.000 Yeah, 03:59.000 --> 04:01.000 I wasn't able to find anything about that. 04:01.000 --> 04:09.000 But, to speak on their working relationship, it seems like Doctor Jackson just straight up did not believe a woman could do that job, which I think is so gross. 04:09.000 --> 04:13.000 I kind of wonder what he thought of female psychiatrists after this all went down. 04:13.000 --> 04:18.000 I think there was another female psychiatrist that joined Willow Waters in 1952 or '53. 04:18.000 --> 04:28.000 There was some reference in one of Nurse Amelia's notes on Hazel to another psychiatrist in the isolation ward--ward, that she referred to as "she," but I don't know. 04:28.000 --> 04:30.000 Hmm, fascinating, yeah. 04:30.000 --> 04:35.000 Well, moving on, this last one isn't a question, but I thought you'd like this comment 04:35.000 --> 04:36.000 Daphne. 04:36.000 --> 04:36.000 Ooh. 04:36.000 --> 04:42.000 Rain, from Patreon, said, "I think Daphne is a lot like Doctor Burnett. 04:42.000 --> 04:46.000 They're both very nurturing and caring and, y'know--" and then there's a rainbow emoji. (laughing) 04:48.000 --> 04:51.000 Well, that's very sweet, Rain, thank you. 04:51.000 --> 04:55.000 I think there's something to that observation. Aw, Preston. 04:55.000 --> 04:55.000 Thank you. 04:55.000 --> 04:58.000 Anytime. 05:08.000 --> 05:12.000 All right, well, let's get into the rest of the show. 05:12.000 --> 05:12.000 First up, 05:12.000 --> 05:15.000 I have a clip from summer of 1953, 05:15.000 --> 05:20.000 About a month and a half, two months, after where we left off last episode. (click) 05:20.000 --> 05:25.000 Well, in my professional opinion, Hazel, you've made great strides. 05:25.000 --> 05:27.000 You've improved a lot. 05:27.000 --> 05:40.000 So, from here, we'll start retaking some of the assessments you've done before, and with improved scores, we should be able to get you completely rehabilitated, and back to living in the world. 05:40.000 --> 05:43.000 Wherever you want to. 05:43.000 --> 05:44.000 Audrey, 05:44.000 --> 05:47.000 I don't feel better. 05:47.000 --> 05:49.000 I'm terrified. 05:49.000 --> 05:56.000 You haven't had an outburst in a long time-- But I-- --and any fear you're currently feeling is situational, not clinical. 05:57.000 --> 06:02.000 Hazel, my love, it is totally normal to be scared right now. 06:03.000 --> 06:05.000 I'm scared, too. 06:05.000 --> 06:07.000 We'll help each other through it, 06:07.000 --> 06:08.000 I promise. 06:08.000 --> 06:15.000 I just... I know the plan is to get me discharged, but... 06:16.000 --> 06:25.000 I know I have been a little better, but I haven't lived outside of this-- this room in over a decade, and... 06:25.000 --> 06:28.000 What happens if I get out there and just... implode? 06:29.000 --> 06:32.000 I'll be right there with you. 06:33.000 --> 06:48.000 Hazel, we don't-- the alternative here is for you to continue treatment at another psychiatric hospital, and I don't know that I'll know which hospital has swept you up, let alone if I can follow you there. 06:48.000 --> 06:51.000 You're right. 06:51.000 --> 06:53.000 I don't want us to be separated. 06:53.000 --> 06:56.000 I don't either. 06:56.000 --> 07:00.000 Hazel, these tapes, our regular sessions, 07:00.000 --> 07:03.000 I'm the only one who really has access to them. 07:03.000 --> 07:05.000 Administration doesn't listen to these. 07:05.000 --> 07:15.000 But the tapes where we are reassessing you, administration may want to listen to those before signing off on your discharge paperwork. 07:15.000 --> 07:22.000 So, we'll talk about what needs to happen in those assessments, and I'll need you to work with me. 07:23.000 --> 07:28.000 As in... give the right answers? 07:28.000 --> 07:33.000 No, I want you to be honest, otherwise it's not a good assessment. 07:33.000 --> 07:41.000 But we'll talk about which answers indicate improvement, and what I have to look for. 07:41.000 --> 07:46.000 So, I do have to give you the right answers. 07:46.000 --> 07:54.000 There are technically correct answers, but I don't want you to answer that way just to score well on the assessment. 07:54.000 --> 08:02.000 I want you to know what I'm looking for, so we can work on those symptoms over the course of the next few months. 08:02.000 --> 08:04.000 Oh. Okay. 08:04.000 --> 08:06.000 Yes. 08:06.000 --> 08:08.000 We can do that. 08:08.000 --> 08:10.000 Thank you, Hazel. (click) 08:10.000 --> 08:19.000 Ah, so, the goal here was to get Hazel ready for those assessments so Doctor Barnett could get her legitimately discharged. 08:19.000 --> 08:19.000 Honestly, 08:19.000 --> 08:24.000 I think the goal at this point was to teach Hazel what the correct answers were. 08:24.000 --> 08:28.000 I just don't think that Hazel quite picked up on that implication during this conversation. Hmm. 08:28.000 --> 08:31.000 I'm not really sure why she didn't say it outright, 08:31.000 --> 08:35.000 I wonder if maybe someone was walking past the room or something. 08:35.000 --> 08:35.000 But, anyway, 08:35.000 --> 08:41.000 I do think that this sort of encouragement to study for the assessment would be a bad thing to do in any other situation-- 08:41.000 --> 08:42.000 You know, 08:42.000 --> 08:44.000 I don't think it's great in this situation though. 08:44.000 --> 08:45.000 Well, but it's a necessary evil. 08:45.000 --> 08:48.000 Well, like, it means she won't have access to the care she might need. 08:48.000 --> 08:53.000 Okay, I agree, it's not a great move, but, like, they're on a deadline. 08:53.000 --> 09:04.000 A lot of asylums were known to have horrific conditions, and there's absolutely no way for Doctor Burnett to guarantee that Hazel would have been safe and taken care of at another facility. 09:04.000 --> 09:11.000 I still think focusing on studying for an assessment, instead of just focusing on the symptoms that need work... 09:11.000 --> 09:11.000 Yeah, 09:11.000 --> 09:14.000 I think that's, for lack of a better word, messy. 09:15.000 --> 09:20.000 Okay, but after this, Hazel basically has access to 24/7 psychiatric care, right? 09:21.000 --> 09:22.000 Hmm. Yeah, I suppose. 09:22.000 --> 09:24.000 It's nothing to worry about. 09:24.000 --> 09:27.000 So, there is a little more from this session 09:27.000 --> 09:34.000 I want us to hear. At the very end, specifically. (click) (laughing, knocking, door opening) Hi, 09:34.000 --> 09:36.000 I hope I'm not interrupting. 09:36.000 --> 09:38.000 No, not at all. 09:38.000 --> 09:40.000 We were just finishing up chatting a little bit. 09:40.000 --> 09:42.000 Oh, good. 09:42.000 --> 09:45.000 So, Hazel, are you ready for your walk in the courtyard? 09:45.000 --> 09:46.000 I just need to change. 09:46.000 --> 09:49.000 Of course. (stands, walks away, door closes) 09:51.000 --> 09:52.000 Thanks, Nurse 09:52.000 --> 09:54.000 Amelia, I'll see you this afternoon-- 09:54.000 --> 09:54.000 Actually, doctor, 09:54.000 --> 09:59.000 I'd like to speak to you for a second, if I can. (door closes) Sure. 09:59.000 --> 10:02.000 I know it's been a few weeks since your outing with Hazel, but 10:02.000 --> 10:04.000 I've heard whispers amongst the men... 10:04.000 --> 10:07.000 They are keeping close eyes on you. 10:07.000 --> 10:08.000 Lay low. 10:08.000 --> 10:11.000 If Hazel needs an off- site outing, allow me to do it. 10:11.000 --> 10:14.000 I don't want them to have a reason to throw you out too. 10:15.000 --> 10:20.000 Maybe start keeping an eye on the newspaper for a new position, as well. 10:22.000 --> 10:23.000 Thank you for the warning, 10:23.000 --> 10:25.000 Nurse Amelia. 10:25.000 --> 10:27.000 I really appreciate it. 10:27.000 --> 10:29.000 Well, we've got to look out for one another. 10:29.000 --> 10:33.000 Or else the men will think they can run all this without us. (chuckle) 10:33.000 --> 10:34.000 I'll keep an eye out. 10:34.000 --> 10:37.000 Thank you. (door opens) 10:37.000 --> 10:38.000 You know, 10:38.000 --> 10:41.000 I'm not going to miss the hospital's clothes. 10:41.000 --> 10:48.000 Nobody does. Everything's scratchy, and then I get in trouble when I try to use a drop of fabric softener in the laundry. (giggling) 10:49.000 --> 10:51.000 Have a good walk, you two. 10:51.000 --> 10:54.000 Page me if you-- (click) 10:56.000 --> 10:59.000 That was interesting. 10:59.000 --> 11:00.000 Okay. 11:00.000 --> 11:12.000 You know, I think Nurse Amelia is the perfect example of people who are, you know, sort of at the bottom of the food chain, you know, not being taken too seriously. 11:12.000 --> 11:19.000 So she can hear people scheming and, you know-- and nobody worries about it, even though she can hear and remember-- 11:19.000 --> 11:24.000 Yeah, she very much can, and obviously will, relay that information. 11:24.000 --> 11:34.000 I wonder how much of this plan might have fallen apart if the men had just, you know, been smart enough to not talk about it in front of a nurse? (flipping pages) Well, I have a Doctor Burnett 11:34.000 --> 11:40.000 Journal entry from after that conversation. (clearing throat) "Nurse Amelia is right. 11:40.000 --> 11:46.000 I will defend that taking Hazel out for ice cream was the right thing to do, she was much happier for it. 11:46.000 --> 11:52.000 But it did land me in some trouble with Doctor Jackson, so I can't be surprised that they are keeping a closer eye on me. 11:52.000 --> 11:56.000 Unfortunately, this means I can't take Hazel out for another outing. 11:56.000 --> 12:00.000 Or if I do, it may be our last." 12:00.000 --> 12:06.000 Yeah, so that does seem to imply that if they got out, she wouldn't bring Hazel back. 12:06.000 --> 12:18.000 You know, I know you know how this ends, but I'm still speculating here, so I wonder if she got all the discharge paperwork ready, then told Hazel they were going on a fun outing, you know, so that she wouldn't panic. 12:18.000 --> 12:20.000 Yeah, that's a cool theory. 12:20.000 --> 12:21.000 I don't know, 12:21.000 --> 12:24.000 I guess you'll just have to see... 12:24.000 --> 12:30.000 Oh, just play the next clip, Daph. (laughing) (click) Hello, I'm Martin Moores with the five o'clock news. 12:30.000 --> 12:35.000 Today, we continue our coverage of a psychiatrist who ran away with her patient. 12:35.000 --> 12:40.000 New evidence has revealed them to be having a secret homosexual affair. 12:40.000 --> 12:44.000 With us tonight is William S. Burnett, father of the psychiatrist, Doctor Burnett. 12:44.000 --> 12:50.000 Now, Mr. Burnett, were you aware of your daughter's homosexual tendencies? 12:50.000 --> 12:51.000 Absolutely not. 12:51.000 --> 12:54.000 You know, I discouraged that girl from working. 12:54.000 --> 12:58.000 I knew it wouldn't be good for a woman to be educated or independent. 12:58.000 --> 13:00.000 Of course it made her sick. Interesting. 13:00.000 --> 13:09.000 You think working made her queer? Yeah, that's right, and she's not welcome in my home until she's cured of that horrible illness. 13:09.000 --> 13:10.000 You hear that, Audrey? 13:10.000 --> 13:15.000 You come back right, or you don't come crawling back to me at all. (click) 13:15.000 --> 13:17.000 What a lovely man, right? 13:17.000 --> 13:21.000 Oh, yeah, what a class act, my God. 13:21.000 --> 13:21.000 You know, 13:21.000 --> 13:27.000 I think it's easy for us to forget how new acceptance and allyship is. 13:27.000 --> 13:30.000 As harsh as it is to hear those sentiments, you know, 13:30.000 --> 13:38.000 I think it's important to remember that they still exist, and they were held by the vast majority until very recently, all things considered. Yeah, 13:38.000 --> 13:47.000 I think the thing that is important for us to consider as we go over this case is that the big scandal that prevented the hospital from reopening wasn't the disappearance of a patient. 13:47.000 --> 13:50.000 It wasn't even, like, the theory that it was a kidnapping. 13:50.000 --> 13:58.000 It's that the investigation revealed it wasn't a disappearance or kidnapping, but two women choosing to be happy together. 13:58.000 --> 14:02.000 The hospital faced a lot of criticism for employing a queer woman like Doctor Burnett. 14:02.000 --> 14:08.000 A female doctor was a radical enough idea, but a queer female doctor sank them. 14:09.000 --> 14:20.000 They basically shut down and buried as much as they could, in the hopes that it would blow over and they would reopen under a different name and continue, but that never happened. 14:20.000 --> 14:23.000 All because people had the audacity to be gay. Yep. 14:23.000 --> 14:25.000 And I'm glad we're largely past that as a society. Mhm. 14:27.000 --> 14:31.000 So, this next clip is from months down the line. 14:31.000 --> 14:40.000 Doctor Burnett had, by this point, spent a lot of time going over what the assessments asked of Hazel, so this was the day they actually did go through a couple assessments. 14:40.000 --> 14:46.000 Now I'm not going to play the full assessment because the session was over two hours long, so that'll go on our Patreon. 14:46.000 --> 14:53.000 What I will play is the very end of this assessment session where they discuss the results. 14:53.000 --> 14:58.000 Oh, and I would also like to point out that Doctor Jackson did actively supervise this. 14:58.000 --> 15:00.000 Mhm. Wait, had he done that before? 15:00.000 --> 15:04.000 No, he hadn't, and as far as I can tell, it wasn't standard. 15:04.000 --> 15:08.000 I think the asylums administration would, like, listen back to these clips, but that's it. 15:08.000 --> 15:22.000 I think this was part of him keeping a closer eye on Doctor Burnett. Mhm. (click) (writing) Well I think it's fair to say that you've shown very fantastic progress here, Hazel. 15:22.000 --> 15:24.000 Thank you, Doctor Burnett. 15:24.000 --> 15:30.000 Your depression scores have gone down significantly, which is a big relief, as well as your schizophrenia score. Hmm. 15:30.000 --> 15:38.000 You have normal femininity scores, a normal level of social introversion... really, this all looks great. 15:38.000 --> 15:40.000 Thank you, Doctor Burnett. 15:40.000 --> 15:45.000 You said you have an aunt that's still living who you could go live with? 15:45.000 --> 15:50.000 I think the next step in your care is rehabilitating you for the real world. (sigh) 15:50.000 --> 15:54.000 We'll need her name so that we can get in contact with her. 15:54.000 --> 15:57.000 She'll need to sign any paperwork since you're not a ward of the state-- 15:57.000 --> 16:02.000 Doctor Burnett, may I speak with you for a moment, outside? 16:02.000 --> 16:05.000 Um, yes, of course. 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 I'm sorry, this will just be a moment. (walking away, door opens then closes) 16:13.000 --> 16:14.000 You're jumping the gun here, 16:14.000 --> 16:21.000 Mrs--Doctor Burnett. Mrs. Finley has shown great improvement, but not enough to completely discharge her. 16:21.000 --> 16:26.000 Doctor Jackson, with all due respect, you've been in the room with her for two hours. 16:26.000 --> 16:29.000 I've been with her for three years. 16:29.000 --> 16:35.000 These scores are-are great, and she's more than ready to move into rehabilitation. 16:35.000 --> 16:39.000 These scores are great in comparison to her old scores. 16:40.000 --> 16:44.000 These are not the normal scores of a functioning individual. But-- 16:44.000 --> 16:46.000 Mrs. Finley doesn't have much family. 16:46.000 --> 16:49.000 She's an orphan and a widow. 16:49.000 --> 16:52.000 There is nobody else to catch her if she falls. 16:52.000 --> 16:56.000 There is no guarantee that she can find herself a second husband. 16:57.000 --> 17:01.000 She does not have enough support out there for me to sign off on her being discharged. 17:03.000 --> 17:06.000 Are we clear? 17:06.000 --> 17:08.000 Yes, sir, 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 We're clear. 17:10.000 --> 17:11.000 Good. 17:11.000 --> 17:25.000 Go finish up your session. (walking away) (deep breath, door opens) How are you feeling, Hazel? 17:25.000 --> 17:26.000 Good. 17:26.000 --> 17:28.000 I feel good. 17:28.000 --> 17:29.000 Okay. 17:29.000 --> 17:31.000 I'll need the name of your aunt. 17:31.000 --> 17:35.000 But-- but didn't he just say-- He'll come around. 17:36.000 --> 17:38.000 Margaret Baker. 17:38.000 --> 17:39.000 Thank you, 17:39.000 --> 17:42.000 Hazel. (click) Oof. 17:42.000 --> 17:44.000 So, yeah, 17:44.000 --> 17:47.000 Doctor Jackson was not making it easy for Doctor Burnett. 17:47.000 --> 17:49.000 No, he was not. 17:49.000 --> 17:52.000 So, would you like to update your theory at all? 17:52.000 --> 17:53.000 Yeah, you know, 17:53.000 --> 18:09.000 I think that Doctor Burnett knew he would never sign the papers, and so she faked what she could, and didn't leave it to chance, you know, just whisked Hazel away, hoping that falsified papers would buy her more time. But-- but don't tell me, don't tell me. 18:09.000 --> 18:11.000 I want to hear the next clip. Okay. 18:11.000 --> 18:15.000 This next one is a news segment with Nurse Amelia. (click) 18:15.000 --> 18:19.000 Welcome back, this is Martin Moores with your five o'clock news. 18:19.000 --> 18:23.000 If you're just joining us, we've been continuing our coverage of the Doctor Burnett scandal. 18:23.000 --> 18:31.000 A psychiatrist from a rural hospital has run off with a patient, and the two have been involved in a secret homosexual affair. 18:31.000 --> 18:36.000 With us tonight is Amelia Mitchell, former nurse of patient Hazel Mary Finley. 18:36.000 --> 18:38.000 Miss Mitchell, did you know about this affair? 18:38.000 --> 18:40.000 No, I didn't know a thing. 18:40.000 --> 18:43.000 How did something like this happen right under your nose? 18:43.000 --> 18:47.000 Doctor Burnett was always very caring and nurturing. 18:47.000 --> 18:52.000 I was always under the impression that she was just trying to do what was best for Hazel. 18:52.000 --> 19:02.000 Hazel had been a patient with us for over a decade, and was very troubled, and under Doctor Burnett's care, she had started picking up hobbies, and coming out of her shell a bit. 19:02.000 --> 19:04.000 I'm truly worried for Hazel. 19:04.000 --> 19:08.000 I didn't know Doctor Burnett was capable of such a thing. 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 And Hazel has nobody else. 19:10.000 --> 19:18.000 She's been in an asylum for over a decade, how is she going to-- Is it true that you were let go by the hospital because you aided and abetted their escape? 19:18.000 --> 19:21.000 No, no, that's not true at all! 19:21.000 --> 19:23.000 I didn't know it was an escape. 19:23.000 --> 19:29.000 I have to sign discharge papers for my patients, and I go off the recommendation of the doctor. 19:29.000 --> 19:34.000 Doctor Burnett recommended Hazel's discharge, so I signed. 19:34.000 --> 19:36.000 I did what any good nurse would do, 19:36.000 --> 19:39.000 I just got caught in the crossfire. 19:41.000 --> 19:44.000 I am furious at Doctor Burnett for doing that to me. 19:44.000 --> 19:51.000 I had looked out for her over the years, helped her any way I could, and she threw me under the bus. 19:51.000 --> 19:53.000 I lost my job, my reputation. 19:53.000 --> 19:54.000 I... 19:54.000 --> 20:02.000 I would never have signed those papers if I knew what was happening. (click) (couch sqeuaking) So what do you think? 20:02.000 --> 20:04.000 Oh, me first? Yeah, 20:04.000 --> 20:11.000 I think this is a stark contrast between her warning Doctor Burnett, and now having a clear resentment for her. 20:11.000 --> 20:13.000 I would, too, if I'm being honest. 20:13.000 --> 20:21.000 I think Doctor Burnett did what she had to do, but it sucks that Nurse Amelia, who'd been nothing but sweet, had to lose her job in the meantime. 20:21.000 --> 20:23.000 Do we know if she, like, landed on her feet? 20:23.000 --> 20:31.000 So, yeah, I looked her up, and it looks like she got married over the summer of 1954, and never worked again. 20:31.000 --> 20:32.000 Oh, she was fine then. 20:32.000 --> 20:34.000 I mean, you know, she lost her career, but she was-- She was supported, 20:34.000 --> 20:35.000 Yeah. Yeah. 20:35.000 --> 20:37.000 So what do you think is about to happen? 20:37.000 --> 20:38.000 Before we get into the last few tapes here. 20:38.000 --> 20:44.000 Oh, uh, I mean, you know, the best I can do is think about Hazel's mindset here. 20:44.000 --> 20:51.000 We know she's scared out of her mind-- Yep. --and I can't help but think that can't be good for rehabilitation. 20:51.000 --> 20:59.000 A bit of anxiety, fine, you know, whatever, but the outright fear that Hazel has displayed makes me worry for her. 20:59.000 --> 21:09.000 I wonder if that's what tipped people off, if something happened with Hazel after the papers were handed in, and that's how they realized the papers were illegitimate. 21:09.000 --> 21:13.000 I mean, I'll tell you right now, that was just that Doctor Burnett disappeared without resigning. 21:13.000 --> 21:16.000 And then they went back and looked at the papers and things didn't line up. 21:16.000 --> 21:22.000 So, Doctor Burnett was doing a whole lot of organizing, but didn't care to tie up loose ends. 21:22.000 --> 21:25.000 You know, she clearly knew she was home free once they were out of there. 21:25.000 --> 21:36.000 Or she knew that there was no foolproof way of covering her tracks, so she put that effort into making sure she and Hazel escaped with plenty of time before anyone noticed. 21:37.000 --> 21:49.000 This next clip is from early 1954, about three weeks before they disappeared. (click) (opening briefcase, pulling out papers) Are those the discharge papers? 21:49.000 --> 21:50.000 Yes. 21:50.000 --> 21:52.000 I got the signatures all sorted out. 21:52.000 --> 22:06.000 Now, these won't be handed in for a couple more weeks, but I want to talk through this with you and have you sign now, so that we can spend the next month just focused on you, okay? 22:07.000 --> 22:09.000 I'm scared. 22:09.000 --> 22:12.000 I don't know what it's like out there anymore. 22:12.000 --> 22:14.000 I know. 22:14.000 --> 22:17.000 Things have changed, 22:17.000 --> 22:18.000 I won't lie to you. 22:18.000 --> 22:21.000 Maybe it's better if I transfer. 22:21.000 --> 22:24.000 Hazel, you passed all your assessment. 22:24.000 --> 22:26.000 I was lying-- --and you're doing amazing right now. 22:26.000 --> 22:34.000 It's normal to be scared of change, but keeping you in a hospital is robbing you of the life you deserve to live. 22:35.000 --> 22:39.000 And it's robbing me of the love of my life. I know. 22:42.000 --> 22:48.000 I love you, and I will do anything to keep you safe and happy, you know that, right? 22:48.000 --> 22:54.000 I know. I can only do that if we are together. 22:55.000 --> 22:58.000 Alright. 22:58.000 --> 23:02.000 Your aunt's already signed, and so has Doctor Jackson. 23:02.000 --> 23:03.000 He has? 23:03.000 --> 23:06.000 I told you he'd come around. 23:06.000 --> 23:11.000 All you have to do is sign right here. (pen clicking) 23:11.000 --> 23:14.000 And nothing bad will happen? 23:15.000 --> 23:18.000 Nothing bad will happen. 23:19.000 --> 23:22.000 I love you, too, you know. 23:22.000 --> 23:25.000 I do. (writing) 23:25.000 --> 23:41.000 I'm all yours. (kiss) (sipping, clearing throat) Welcome back, everyone. 23:41.000 --> 23:42.000 Getting right into it, 23:42.000 --> 24:01.000 I have a clip from a police press conference in Philadelphia. (click) (loud chatter, cameras flashing) Well, late Thursday evening, an administrative assistant at the psychiatric hospital noticed a clerical error on some paperwork that unveiled a horrible scheme. 24:01.000 --> 24:08.000 One of the patients had been incorrectly discharged, and the psychiatrist charged with her care had disappeared without a word. 24:08.000 --> 24:15.000 What we know right now is that the two individuals in question are Doctor Audrey Ann Burnett and Hazel Mary Finley. 24:16.000 --> 24:35.000 Mrs. Finley has been known to have violent outbursts, and the supervising physician, Doctor Robert Jackson, was not confident she made a full recovery, so anyone who thinks they've seen Mrs. Burnett and Mrs. Finley are advised to keep a safe distance and call the emergency line. Captain Rodman, how is the police force going to mitigate the risk of civilian harm? Thank you. 24:35.000 --> 24:40.000 We're following this case very closely, and are cooperating with the FBI. 24:40.000 --> 24:45.000 The error was not noticed immediately, so they could be anywhere by now. 24:45.000 --> 24:47.000 We advise that you all stay alert. 24:47.000 --> 24:54.000 We do not expect that they are armed, but we do suspect again that Mrs. Finley could be dangerous. 24:54.000 --> 24:56.000 Both women are in their 30s with-- (click) 24:56.000 --> 25:01.000 So, you'll notice in these clips we're reviewing that they never name drop the asylum. Yeah. 25:01.000 --> 25:04.000 So, there's implications in some of the paperwork 25:04.000 --> 25:10.000 I've gone over that the hospital paid off the police and the press, to avoid having their name tarnished. 25:10.000 --> 25:14.000 So now obviously this wasn't 100% effective, word did get out. 25:14.000 --> 25:22.000 Nurse Amelia, for example, wasn't given, even, like, she wasn't even given severance pay, so I suspect some of the word of mouth was from her. 25:22.000 --> 25:25.000 Not naming the hospital was a great way to also hide 25:25.000 --> 25:26.000 Doctor Burnett and Hazel over time, too. 25:26.000 --> 25:36.000 Yeah. Because Doctor Burnett and Hazel were tied to the hospital, and the hospital started paying people off, renaming the case "Doctor Love" removed all ties. 25:36.000 --> 25:39.000 And so... Oh god, what a way to bury things. 25:39.000 --> 25:40.000 Yeah. 25:40.000 --> 25:43.000 Kind of horrifying that they were able to pay off that many people. 25:43.000 --> 25:49.000 You know, it makes you wonder what would happen if you disappeared and someone didn't want anyone to know where you went. 25:49.000 --> 25:50.000 Sure does. 25:53.000 --> 25:58.000 Well, we're getting to the end here, and I have one last thing for us to go over. Yeah, go for it. 25:58.000 --> 26:00.000 This one is a journal entry. 26:00.000 --> 26:03.000 So, you might be wondering how we even have the journals. (papers flipping) 26:03.000 --> 26:05.000 It's only our most asked Patreon question. 26:05.000 --> 26:12.000 Well, both journals were found at a cafe next to a train station, along with some other personal belongings. 26:12.000 --> 26:16.000 Mostly the things police had used as identifiers, like Doctor Burnett's glasses. 26:16.000 --> 26:18.000 We have Hazel's final journal entry. 26:18.000 --> 26:29.000 This is the last anyone ever heard from her or Doctor Burnett. (clears throat) (couch squeaking) "We're getting muffins while we wait for our train. 26:29.000 --> 26:31.000 I don't know where we're going yet. 26:31.000 --> 26:42.000 Audrey took me out, and told me we were going into town for lunch, as my last official outing, and didn't tell me until we abandoned her car that we weren't going back. 26:42.000 --> 26:43.000 Today is the day. 26:44.000 --> 26:50.000 If I'd known, I would have hugged Nurse Amelia, and given her one of my paintings to remember me by. 26:50.000 --> 26:54.000 I suppose that's why Audrey didn't tell me we were leaving, 26:54.000 --> 26:57.000 I might have spoiled the whole plan. 26:57.000 --> 26:59.000 I'm still afraid. 26:59.000 --> 27:04.000 I don't know what happens to us, especially Audrey, if we get caught. 27:04.000 --> 27:07.000 But she's planned this out so meticulously, 27:07.000 --> 27:09.000 I don't think we will be caught. 27:09.000 --> 27:10.000 And I'm excited. 27:10.000 --> 27:17.000 It's a terrifying concept, to be free, for the first time in my life. 27:17.000 --> 27:19.000 I don't know if I've earned it. 27:19.000 --> 27:25.000 I've fought just as hard as Charles did, but I don't know if I overcame. 27:26.000 --> 27:28.000 But I'm free. 27:28.000 --> 27:35.000 And I'm with Audrey, who loves me, who cares for me, who will keep me safe and warm for the rest of my days. 27:36.000 --> 27:44.000 I pray I am forgiven for the sins I've committed." (exhale) Wow. 27:44.000 --> 27:46.000 And that's it. 27:46.000 --> 27:49.000 That's the last anyone ever heard from them. 27:49.000 --> 27:51.000 They were never found. 27:51.000 --> 27:57.000 They've obviously passed away, by now, but even then, nobody ever saw so much as an obituary. 27:57.000 --> 28:04.000 Presumably, they changed their names-- of course. --but, yeah, we'll have no way of tracing that if they didn't do it legally, which-- 28:04.000 --> 28:05.000 Which they never would have done. Yeah. 28:05.000 --> 28:08.000 What do you think happened to them after they disappeared? 28:08.000 --> 28:11.000 Well, I mean, it's impossible to know. 28:11.000 --> 28:17.000 My guess is Hazel probably struggled adapting, which could have caused more outbursts. 28:17.000 --> 28:25.000 It also could have prevented her from really forming friendships, so she may have only had Doctor Burnett for the rest of her life. 28:25.000 --> 28:36.000 And, you know, Doctor Burnett probably wasn't able to practice medicine again, you know, if she changed her name or she had to go back to school and get degrees and qualifications under her new name. 28:36.000 --> 28:42.000 But I'd bet that she didn't do that, and, you know, maybe became a nurse or something. Maybe. 28:42.000 --> 28:49.000 I like to think they bought a property outside of a city somewhere and-and homesteaded, maybe. Just some countryside cottage. 28:49.000 --> 28:55.000 That seems peaceful, and I think they would have needed peace after that whole... affair. 28:55.000 --> 29:04.000 It's really interesting to see, you know, now that we've gone over the whole case from start to finish, the evolution of their relationship. 29:04.000 --> 29:14.000 What strikes me is that it wasn't really that they just needed to be together so bad that they ran away, but that the circumstances were changing, and it made it easier for them to slip away together. 29:14.000 --> 29:16.000 I don't know, 29:16.000 --> 29:20.000 I think it was that they needed to be together. 29:20.000 --> 29:28.000 What drove them to run away together, you know, wasn't the idea of a good window, it was the idea that they would get separated. 29:28.000 --> 29:35.000 To me, it seems very obvious that they were deeply in love, that they both found a lot of comfort in each other. 29:35.000 --> 29:41.000 I hope that the comfort was enough to carry them through the rest of their lives. Me too. 29:41.000 --> 29:42.000 I like to think it was. 29:44.000 --> 29:45.000 Well, 29:45.000 --> 29:48.000 I guess that's it, huh? 29:48.000 --> 29:52.000 That brings us to the end of the story of Doctor Love. 29:52.000 --> 29:57.000 Don't forget, the last episode of the season is a full Mindful Musings episode, so get your questions in! 29:57.000 --> 30:04.000 Yes, we'll answer as many questions as we can next week in the final episode of our season. 30:04.000 --> 30:07.000 That's it from us for now, and we'll see you then. 30:07.000 --> 30:08.000 Bye! 30:22.000 --> 30:27.000 Doctor Love is written and directed by Maya Appavoo, and produced by Maya Appavoo and Monica Gate. 30:27.000 --> 30:30.000 Starring the voice acting talents of Madeline Harsh as Daphne, 30:30.000 --> 30:32.000 Jacob Martin as Preston, 30:32.000 --> 30:35.000 Abby McDougall as Doctor Burnett, and Emily Lizotte as Hazel. 30:35.000 --> 30:38.000 Additional voices by Cleo Birch, Robert Wooldridge, 30:38.000 --> 30:41.000 Sarah McKinnon, and Tyler Pasquarella. 30:41.000 --> 30:44.000 Post production management by Monica Gate. 30:44.000 --> 30:47.000 Sound design for this episode by Ace Luke, and music by Ken Kosowick. 30:48.000 --> 30:57.000 A full list of credits and disclaimers can be found in the episode description or on our website, appoova.ca/portfolio/doctorlove 30:57.000 --> 31:02.000 Follow us on social media! We are @doctorlovepod on everything. 31:02.000 --> 31:06.000 Doctor Love is supported by the Edmonton Arts Council, and the City of Edmonton. 31:06.000 --> 31:09.000 Thank you for listening. 31:16.000 --> 31:19.000 This is a beautiful painting, Hazel. 31:21.000 --> 31:25.000 I bet I could convince the men to let me put it up somewhere. 31:25.000 --> 31:25.000 Really? 31:25.000 --> 31:28.000 Oh, absolutely. (giggle) 31:31.000 --> 31:34.000 Well, thank you. 31:34.000 --> 31:37.000 That means a lot. 31:37.000 --> 31:41.000 Can I say something? (chuckle) That's what we're here for. 31:41.000 --> 31:46.000 I never thought I'd be happy again, before I met you. 31:46.000 --> 31:50.000 And now I can't imagine being unhappy again. 31:51.000 --> 31:52.000 Thank you, 31:52.000 --> 31:53.000 Audrey. 31:53.000 --> 31:56.000 Oh, Hazel. (kiss) 32:01.000 --> 32:03.000 If I can have it my way, 32:03.000 --> 32:04.000 I'll keep you forever.