Hey, y'all, Marty here. I wanted to invite you to our.
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Not since we first started using it.
Okay, so I'm going to stop some music here in a second because I have music. Can you hear the music in the background?
No.
Okay, then I'm not going to worry about it.
Let me get audio.
Hijack going all right, while you're doing that. But the reason I want to play with them is because Steven uses clips for all of his elements, apparently.
Yeah, I remember that from chatting with him. I saw a meeting with him at some point.
Yeah, we're supposed to set up a meeting. I need to get with you to look at times to I'll pull up his calendar later and we'll get a time set up. But I thought he was using the.
You thought he was mixer? Yeah, he doesn't have the P four.
He has that roadcaster too.
Yeah, I had that same impression, too, until I was on the show, and then he played the clips in. I was like, oh, he did that from the clips and the thing. And then he said he did it from the clips and the thing. So I was like, all right, so.
He can do things like open Cape beta. Oh, wait, did it posit or did it stop?
Open. Cape Beta.
It stops it so your spacebar will stop the clip.
Cool.
That's kind of cool.
So you have to focus on it and then you can tap space.
Yes, you have to focus on it. And so if you tab, you can tab to the clip itself and then hit space. Open.
Cape Beta.
And now double tap to open. Double tap to open menu button. Have you played with it? Oh, you haven't gotten in there yet?
No, I haven't gotten in there yet, man.
Had to tease you a little.
I did get on to be my eyes, though.
Finally.
I sent Christian a nice email and thanked him for the opportunity, though.
Thank you.
I sent him a nice email. I said, I appreciate the ability to test. It's pretty amazing for my basic testing, and I appreciate the opportunity to get ahead of the release so that I can better provide customer support in the future because this is going to be oh, also made a note that, hey, man, I'm assuming at some point you're going to have this on Android and stuff. So I do have a pixel here and the blind shell for further testing. I'm really curious to see how this is going to work on the blind shell.
I don't think it's going to you.
Don'T think this is going to make.
It to the I think the blind shell app is not going to get the AI. And I'll keep this in the recording. We'll start it right at the beginning of this because I don't think the blind shell is going to get it. It would be cool if it does, but I think they're just going to stick with what's on there. I could be wrong. Could be wrong. We'll see.
Well, prediction, because it could be if they're talking to be my eyes, I could see it working. If they did what I know they've done with some other applications, I could absolutely possibly seeing it getting skipped. And it could just be that version number might be the problem, though. An Android version number may be the issue.
We'll see. Super cool, though. Like playing with it, I can't really go into too many details and I don't think you can either.
But what I playing with it is yeah, this is going to be a game changer. I will say that I see content that we're going to I can see I'm not going to say content. I see some discussions and strategies that we can already share once it's out of beta. For those filling, a little bit of the bite from IRA on the pricing right now, I have developed a strategy in my mind and I'm like, I think this would work for a lot of people.
So yeah, if some of the things get fixed up, too. So Damasi sent me a box today and I took a picture of the box that was inside the box. And Damasi knows what was in the box and he can tell people because it was apparently something with an OWC logo on it. However, the box apparently includes a hard drive that's 0GB. So I'm not quite sure what he sent me. Three times I asked it, Are you sure? And I took different 0GB.
So it wasn't wrong, though. It wasn't wrong. The device that I bought when I bought that for myself a couple of years ago from OWC was 0GB because it didn't come with any preloaded drives.
I didn't realize that I was getting frustrated. Yeah. Apparently that is on the box and it was very clear to me that there are 0GB on there. Okay, that's weird. But I'll ask them a later. But now it makes perfect sense.
Yeah, no, there should be like three terabytes in there in the case. Yeah, but no, when I bought it, I bought it with no drives and I put my own drives in. So that makes sense. Right now it's set up as Raid. I can have it set up as just a bunch of disks, basically, but it's rated together. So you have three terabytes of mashed together, storage one drive in, there is a two terabyte SSD. I think that's a crucial. And then the 1 TB drive, I don't remember who made that one, but it's also SSD.
This will be magic, sir.
Magic power. So you plug it into your Mac Mini. There is a cable in the box for AC adapter.
I was going to ask you about.
The wall, but if you're plugging it into a computer, really, any Mac that you plug it into, it should be able to power it. But absolutely the Mac Mini, because that's what I had to connect it to for the longest time. And it probably would also work with like an Air with an M Two chip because it has Thunderbolt Four, so that would be enough to power it. But it does have an AC adapter. If you wanted to, say, plug that at some future date, that same device, even if you swap the drives out into, say, a Raspberry Pi or something, just plug in the AC adapter.
But on the back sweet.
Yeah. It goes off. Whether or not the device can power it, it has to be a USB connection. There's a cable on there. USB. C to C. Cable. If you're using that cable, it can run bus powered. If you use a C to a cable where the other end that you're plugging into is A, you're probably going to need to plug it in. But I have never used it that way, so I don't know for certain. But that's kind of the impression I got from looking at the specs.
See, good to know, because I would have tried just plugging it into the A to C, probably. Although I do have when I pull this other hard drive out, I'll have an extra well, that's an A port there. But anyways, we will make it work because that is awesome. I did find the other thing in there, the surprise. Did you get my audio?
I got your audio mix, yeah.
That is clever. So what it is, is it's a lapel microphone, and of course, I'm recording from the sure beta 87 A right now, but the lapel microphone sounds not the same, but it has a pretty similar point. I tell you what, if you go follow me on Mastodon Payon at a Mute Community tonight when we're recording this, which is the 17th, listen to the audio and I'll record that from that microphone.
Yeah, but I figured you could use it. I wasn't using it. It's been sitting in a drawer. That is the countryman I bought about a year and a half ago from Sweetwater. But it's just been sitting in a drawer. And as I was putting stuff in the box and I was like, do I have anything in here? So I can say, oh, actually, it was when I was digging for the webcam that I threw in there, and that's supposed to be a backup. Your phone is going to be much better than that camera. But it's a nice backup camera with a USB just in case, or if you wanted to have multiple camera angles or something like that. But while I was digging in the bottom of a drawer for that, I ran across the case, that microphone. I was like, oh, I'll throw this here for Mike, because he should. I will. But on Monday use this for AMI.
Yes, Monday show. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to get wired up. And for those who are curious, XLR, it does require Phantom power. For some reason, I was thinking it didn't. So I turned the Phantom power off and then plugged it in, and then turned phantom power on. And I was impressed. Now, do you clip this, like, to your lapel, the edge of your shirt, and then you just kind of put the mic where you want? Or how did you use it?
In most of the usage? For me, it depends on the kind. If I had on a collared shirt, like a polo shirt or something like that, I would clip it. I would always run it under my shirt. And I got this from watching a bunch of videos when I was researching what is a good lapel mic to buy in the first place when I was looking for them. So one tip that I got is always run the cable under your shirt that way it's not in the way, and clip it. So with a collar type shirt, you can clip it inside, just inside the fold of the collar. I have had it as low as kind of like right there where the part of your chest that would be visible if you had on a polo shirt. I've had it clipped at the bottom of that and still had pretty good audio. If I have on a shirt like I do now, a T shirt, I would bring it up and maybe clip it to the side of my neck and then run the mic so it's kind of sitting right there at that hollow of my throat right there so people could see it if they're paying really close attention. But yeah, it picks up pretty far away. Like, I've had it tucked down in a collared shirt or in a button up shirt, just barely peeking out of the fabric. And I didn't get Fabric Russell or anything like that with it. And the audio quality was pretty good. And nobody sees it. So it looks like you're just sitting there and they're like, how is this guy doing that?
And now I'm going to go buy after convention. There's a lot of things after convention, though. I'm going to buy those in ear monitors that both you and Mallory have sent me. Because right now, the only thing that's kind of big on my head now is going to be the headphones that I'm wearing because I'm wearing the Senheiser. I think that's the right one.
AKG.
AKG. Yes.
AKG 240s.
Great for editing audio in. Not the prettiest on video.
Not the prettiest on video. But, man, they sound so good. So I'm actually back to using mine because I still hadn't found that case I was telling you about that has a replacement earbud for my monitors. So, yeah, still wearing these. I sound amazing.
Dollar monitors.
I do have a pair of those. They're in my backpack. Those are the ones that live, so the ones that I sent you, that Mallory sent you, which is why you should get them, because we did not collude on this at all. I promise you. I sent them to Mike when I heard about them on office hours, and I was like, oh, these look pretty cool. I sent them to Mike, and then I eventually bought some. I sent them to Mike again. It's like, man, you really should get these. These are nice. And there's two cables. Like, they send you two cables to use. So there's one regular cable, and there's one that actually has a mic on it, because the earbuds on the end are, like, detachable from the cable, which is the way that you want to go. And reason being, if you run into the situation that I'm in right now, where I think the headphone cable for my main ear monitors got a short, let's go buy a new cable and connect them. And then Mike told me Mallory sent him these same earbuds. Like, Mike, you should use these because he's on camera. His wife is being nice and thinking about how he looks on camera, so she's trying to help him out. So he really should get them because we both independently sent him the same thing. But I do have a pair of those. They are currently in my backpack. I am resisting taking them out because I want to always have some decent headphones if I am traveling and I need to record or happen to need to edit some audio or something like that. I have those in my backpack, and they're cheap enough that if I lose them I was about to say something. I can't say that I won't lose my mind. I will be a little upset, but they're cheap enough. The ones that I normally use that never leave the house are some west one in ear monitors. They're clear. The cable is clear. They have five dynamic drivers inside of them. And normal price for these, I think, is like, 500, $600. I got them on sale, like, a stupid discount of sweetwater. And I still had to do a paybit plan, but it was a stupid discount, so I bought them. They never leave the house because I would do the thing that I can't say if I were traveling. Let's say I went to convention and then lost these or left them at the hotel. I would be sick.
Yeah, I definitely get that. What did you use when you were doing at guys at the vendor opportunities you've had? Did you use earbuds or did you just use the V Seven?
So I use the inner monitors that I'm telling you to buy.
Okay.
Yeah, I just use those. I just grabbed one earbud and attach it to the cable and plug them in. I would just pop it in my ear.
Maybe I'll buy these before convention, actually, because that makes a lot of sense. And you don't have, like, another cable just hanging out. You just have one cable that you have to worry about or how does that work?
Yeah, it's just one cable. So it looks like a typical cable. So think about normal wired earbuds, right? They go in your ear. The only difference in these is that the earbud part can detach from the cable.
Okay.
So again, if you get a short in your cable, you don't have to replace the whole earbuds. You just go buy a replacement cable. And it's a standard, like, the cable the end that they use, even for the ones I have here, the west ones, it's like a standard attachment. So you don't necessarily have to go buy the like, I don't have to go to West One and buy a cable from West One because it's probably going to be $40 or something. I can go probably use one of the cables that's in the pack that came with the monitors I'm telling you to get, because it's just a standard attachment point. The ones that are $50 on Amazon, we'll get a link in the show notes for people, too. They are really comfortable. I haven't had any problems with them. There are several ear tips, Mike. We can put it in the show notes, but I'll send you a link to some foam. I don't know if you like the foam ear tips or not, but I prefer the foamy style ear tips. The ones that you can squeeze and they like you put them in the ear to me, they help form a better seal without me having to have this ridiculously large thing in my ear. But these are I forgot what I was saying. We'll get a link for you. I'm going to send you a link to the extra ear tips. But they do send you when you buy these, you get like four different sizes of this silicon type of ear tips. So you don't have to go immediately purchase those. I actually bought them later when I got mine. But it's a standard cable. The ones that I'm telling you to get, though, the cable for those is flexible. Like the part to get it to stay on your ear, like, that little part is flexible so you can mold it around your ear so it stays how you need it to stay. It's not a fixed deal, but yeah, they're great. And if you're on camera and they send you a clear cable. If you get the clear ones, you get a clear cable, you run it down behind you and then around and plug it in. And nobody even sees the cable. So unless you turn your head, they don't even see the monitors in your ear.
That's awesome. They'll be like, whoa, how is he doing the audio?
Like, how is he doing this?
Maybe AMI will come to me and be like, oh, how did you do this?
And I was having a conversation with a friend of mine, a good friend of mine a while a couple of days ago. And we were talking about video and audio quality and stuff like that. And I was happy to meet another individual that is as vain as I am. Because when I show up to a Zoom meeting and I got video, I want to look great. I want people to be like, wait.
What did you how sound good and.
Sound just look spectacular? Well, of course I'm going to sound good, right? If you've been listening to me on a microphone for any amount of time, you know how picky I am about audio. That's a given. I'm going to sound good. I also want to look better than everybody else, too. At least the video quality look better than everybody else. I want people, how are you doing this? Like, yeah, that's what I want. I like it when I get that.
Here's the invoice for me to tell you to go download camo.
Camo is man. I popped in on one of these studies that we tend to get into sometimes on Google Meet, and the lady was like, whoa, those tigers look like they were coming at me. All right, I have accomplished it. I retire. Mike. Drop. I'm out of here.
Yeah.
What else was in your box, Mike?
Seasoning. Very good seasoning. Mallory was excited to get it. By the way, you're not going to get that other jar back. We'll send you one eventually, but apparently she's using your other jar for her salt that she got.
Okay, well, good deal.
And a camera. And I probably forgot something else. Is that about right? And you're getting a box soon, too, with a mini vision, too. See how that goes.
We'll see how that goes. But yeah, I was glad that got here today. Got there today, though.
It was perfect timing. We were thinking it wasn't going to show up till Tuesday, and we're recording on Saturday. That's the thing about USPS. USPS will over promise. Will under promise, over deliver. So they'll say it'll be there Wednesday or Thursday, and it'll actually show up, like, Sunday or well, Monday most of the time. I've noticed lately, Ups tells you it's going to be there on Thursday. It's going to be Thursday.
It's going to be there on Thursday. Yeah, I will say it about USPS. They do have a tendency when things are flowing good for them, yes.
Not all the time. That is not the case all the time. I did customer service 21, christmas of 21, and no Christmas of 20 was worse. Well, Christmas of 20 was when I was doing Peloton and they had just moved me to apparel. So yeah, not fun times.
But 21 was rough for everybody, though. Yeah, everybody. I don't even think FedEx and FedEx tends to me at least they have some asinine practices, and sometimes their pricing is a little ridiculous, but they tend to be the best in my general experience, out of all of them Ups, I'm pretty sure if they give me a date, that's the day it's going to be here. Like, no if, ands, or buts about it. However, Ups does not let me do what FedEx does, which is like, oh, this package is going to be here Thursday. I'm not going to be here Thursday. Can I have you hold that for me? Sure thing, sir. No problem. Ups is like, no, we can't let you do anything with this package until we try to give it to you first and then you don't get it. Well, you're not going to give it to me. You're just going to leave it on my porch.
Right? Because the person who sent it to me didn't want to pay your outrageous fees to wire a signature, which is.
Like, why do you have to charge for signatures? Like the guys running or the person let me get that. Even though my Ups delivery individual has always been a male. But in general, the delivery person has the tablet with them to sign. Like, why do you got to charge extra money for a signature?
For the same reason that they want to charge you to pick up your packages when you know they're going to your neighbor's house today anyways if they're not coming to my house to drop off an Amazon package.
That is the maddening thing, though. Like, you can't give Ups a package when they're dropping off another package at your house. It's like, hey, man, I got this box. Can you take that, too? Sorry, I can't do that.
I think that differs in the region because I can most of the time.
And to be fair, both FedEx and Ups have different shipping.
Vehicles.
Because I have actually been able to hand the box to a Ups person that was coming to deliver something.
Might just depend on their mood, too.
That could also be the thing, too.
So you and I were going to talk about something that I've been eager to talk to you about because I think this company is going to get some money from me. Then you started asking me questions last night because I kind of was like, hey, man, we got to talk about this. And then you're like, this is a question I have. I don't have an answer for you. So, long story short, I think I've fixed my email woes, which is strong words coming from me. I'm getting back to people's emails faster, I'm getting more stuff done in email and I'm also getting reminders when I need to follow up with people. And I think that's something that was I didn't realize I really wanted that.
I forgot about that feature too, because theirs is easier because you can just send an email to a range like 2D@sanebox.com.
Yes. And you can also forward your emails to that as well. So if you're like, hey, I can't work on this right now, but I probably can on Saturday. You can forward it to Saturday@sandbox.com and then it'll resurface in your inbox on Saturday and you can just move on. Even if you delete it so you can clear out your inbox, it'll still bring that message back to you so you can read it. And that was pretty cool to me.
I forgot about that feature.
Yeah, the service we're talking about is Sanebox and we don't have a referral link, but anyways, if you want we.
Do, yeah, you have one in your account right now.
Well, I meant like an easy redirect referral link. Okay, I'll throw it in the show notes because Damasi is making me put links in the show notes already. So you can go to the show notes at your ownpay.com TW, click on the latest episode and then scroll down and you'll find the link to Sanebox. And what Sanebox will do is connect.
Or hold on before you tell people what it is, you can go to your ownpay.com Sanebox. That's S-A-N-E-O.
Hold on. Do you want to do that?
Yes.
Okay, so when we switch to unmute.
Am, that's not going to be no, because it'll still work. Yes, they'll still work.
You're a genius.
Yes, they will still work. So go to your ownpay.com Sanebox Sanebox, and that will redirect you and that will do two things for you, if I'm not mistaken. Number one, it will get you a little bit of credit to get going or a free month or something along those lines. And you'll also be giving some credit back to Michael to help him out with the bill that he's going to have for Sanebox. Yes, I'm going to also use this link once I set it up because he just said a magic word and I might get back to explaining how Sanebox works. I'm getting back to people quicker and not losing their emails. And that is the thing that kills me about email.
Yeah. So I don't know if it's a lot of the messages and you do have to train Sandbox. We'll talk about that here in a minute. I am still going through that process. So my experience now I think will be better in a couple of weeks the more that I use it, because Sandbox is learning more about what I want to actually read. So I don't know if it's because I'm getting all that junk out of my inbox and I am only seeing the messages from people that I need to reply to. And I'm like, well I should probably reply to this so that way I can clear it out of my inbox. Or if it's just a mental thing that's hey, now that my inbox is lower, I should follow up with more people. But to me, I have found that I've gotten more replies done to people and actually follow up and gotten more projects done. So how Same Box works is when you install it, well, you set it up and full transparency. I just realized as I was telling you this, that maybe I have more emails than I thought. So if you haven't gotten a reply from me, bear with me and we'll get back to you. But how Same Box Works, by default.
Your email is very important to us. We will reply to it as soon as possible.
We'll reply to it in the order it was received. So how Same Box works is you connect it I'm using it with a Gmail account. I suspect you can use it with any well, I know you can use it with any IMAP account. I believe, I believe that's an interesting sentence. I will leave that in there. So what you do is you connect it and it makes a folder called At Sane later. And this is the default folder. And what it will do is it will evaluate your inbox and say, hey, these are messages that can go into the At Sane later and you can take a look at them a little bit later on and that's all good and it works just fine. And that leaves messages in the inbox that Same Box's algorithms feel like you are more wanting to see. Samebox also offers some additional at folders. And what I did because my biggest problem is I'm on way too many mailing lists. Yeah, but these mailing lists are valuable because I hear about news before manufacturers tell me about news.
I need to set up for Rago. I got to settle for Rago shot fired.
No names though, no names. How this works is it'll take the newsletters of different companies and it puts them in at Say News, but it also will take your groups IO lists and put them in at Say News. So all of those groups IO emails that I was getting all of a sudden left my inbox and were no longer there. And then I saw the messages from Marty or the messages from Stephen or Damasi because I wasn't waiting through all of those messages. So what I do is I will go through my inbox now in the morning and sometimes in the afternoon. I'm not checking it as often as I was, which I think is also was a side effect of getting. So many emails because I felt like I had to delete those emails. So I'll go through my inbox. Right now I have 140 in there, so there's a little more than I would like, but it's a lot lower than it has been. And in the evenings or if I'm editing audio and it's a long stretch where I'm just listening for, UMS, long silences or mouse max that RX didn't pick up. I will go through the same news or now I'm going to start going through the same later because I'm pretty sure I got emails there and I will just go delete those emails and every once in a while come to an email that I find that I'm like, you know, I'd like to get these, like sweetwater. I want to get your emails in my inbox because you don't send them that often and to me that's one of those when I get it, I want to do it. The other one that I moved is my office hours because it put office hours in the same newsletter and I want to get those every morning. So what you do is you vo shift m, you go down to move and then you choose the inbox. Be conscientious when you have multiple email accounts of which inbox you're choosing. Because for a minute I couldn't find any of my email as moving and then I realized that I was moving it to a totally different inbox on a different account. So that was awkward for a minute. But that's a quick overview of Sandbox. They have additional features like Same Black.
Hole is one that a lot of people look and I honestly think for a lot of people, Same Black Hole and just Sane Later are enough for most people to use because it does intelligently based off them learning people's emails and email habits. If it detects that you've sent multiple emails to these people and it does go through and scan all of your email, read your privacy policy, I trusted it, I have used it before I gave it up because it was at a time like I had really had to cut costs. But I think I may go back to it because I cannot get out of email like I can't. So I'm going to have to go back and set this up myself and I'm going to use Michael's referral link as well. When I do it, it makes that.
Concept I brought up to you a couple of weeks ago of using your inbox as your to do list a little bit more manageable. At least that's how I have found it. Because if I have an email and I can't edit this audio today, but I need to get it done by Sunday, I'll forward it to Saturday@sandbox.com, and then that email goes away from me and I don't have to worry about it until Saturday, when I'm like, oh, I should get that audio. I need to do it by tomorrow.
Yeah. And that may actually be a better way than trying to send stuff into Todoist also because there's that deal and it's an email, right? So you need to read all of that. I don't like reading the emails intodoist either.
I don't either. It's doable, but it's not my favorite way of doing it, for sure.
Yeah, what I like about oh, same black hole. So we got to go back to that because we didn't use it basically. Well, it's a hammer, right? And you don't always need a hammer. Sometimes you need a scalpel where it's like, oh, these emails, I don't want those in the inbox. Move those to at same later and then same box will learn, okay, these emails need to go to at same later in the future. Just like the reverse of moving something from at same later to your inbox to train it. That no, these, let them hit the inbox. Black hole. You send something, the same black hole is done. You're never getting another email from them. As long as you're using same box, it is over.
That is ultimately the fastest way to.
Unsubscribe from email list, especially when sometimes clicking unsubscribed. I got to say for the longest time I heard people say a lot of these unsubscribe links and emails don't work. And me being the naive individual I was about email at least because one, I wasn't on a ton of lists. Most of the list I were on were the Google Groups or Groups IO list as that became a bigger thing or they were newsletters that I never had any intention of unsubscribing from. And if I did unsubscribe or go edit my preferences is what I did with a lot of them, those things would stick. The thing that a lot of people say is like, oh, you click unsubscribe and it doesn't work. It's like I've never really experienced this. And the law says you have to do this. If somebody clicks unsubscribe and you don't like the end, you got a problem. Any email I have set up for people even using Cindy, if you click unsubscribe, you are unsubscribed instantly. Like, I'm not asking you any questions. There's not any seven days till we clean you out of our system crap. Either you click unsubscribe, you're gone. So I really didn't believe this was a widespread issue. Not that I didn't believe it didn't happen, but just until I tried to unsubscribe from this newsletter and I don't know how I got on it in the first place. And I clicked unsubscribe and I confirmed all the unsubscriptions. I still see these emails in my inbox man, and it drives me insane.
Black hole, sir.
So same black hole for them and I don't have to worry about ever getting them again because it doesn't matter if you respect my unsubscribed preference.
I really like it when text expander and sandbox do partnerships and they give you some quick tips for automating your email and getting back to all your emails. So I will be looking out for some of those and if we have some time and some forewarning, we will share with people when they're around because we're all about productivity. Oh, speaking of productivity, unless do you have anything else to Mossy? Okay, speaking of productivity, we productively forgot to thank our subscriber today. So thank you to the person who has renewed their subscription and we greatly appreciate it. And I've been in contact with you, and I'm 99.9% sure I forgot to forward those emails to demosi, so I'll do that before we get done. So thank you for listening and we appreciate your support.
I appreciate what I heard you said because Michael has not forwarded the emails to me, but I appreciate you enjoying the show and liking the content. Thank you very much. As I told Michael, it's never the first payment we appreciate, it the first one. It's when they renew. When they renew, then you're like, okay, we're good, right? So thank you extraordinarily. In the entire time we've been doing our podcast, I think you probably are the first person to ever contribute to us monetarily in any sort of way. So we appreciate it. You will always be our number one.
Subscriber and you have a Hey.com email. We'll tell people that because we already did. I was frantically searching for the emails bill to gather those up so I didn't forget. And then I realized, hey, that's probably only one that has a Hay.com email.
Look, you also have that distinction, in my mind at least. Anyway. You're the first individual I have received an email from that was using a Hey.com email address. So number one subscriber with a Hey.com email address. There was something else we was going to talk about and I have forgotten what it was. Should have wrote it down. That's what we should talk about. Why don't we write stuff down?
Yeah.
So Michael has been on the beta. I have been watching the beta at a distance. I have not put it on my devices yet. I do need to and I intend to put it on my iPad. I honestly don't know where my iPad is at the moment, so I got to find it. Lincoln's mind possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned up there, to be honest. It's somewhere around here. It might actually still be in my backpack from when I went to Teledago because I was like, oh, I'll take the iPad before I get to the 17. I did have the idea, because I tested it on the iPad, of taking just an iPad with the keyboard in the swiper. And I was like, that's going to be super difficult to navigate around. And sometimes the iPad acts weird with navigation. I don't need these problems. We're just going to take the MacBook Air because that's what it's for.
And you're already used to the way the MacBook air works weird in its navigation, right?
And also there's not well, I didn't have so I could have did hotspot, but yeah, I felt like, let's keep down the confusion so these look like I kind of know what I'm doing when somebody wants to buy something. Still look like it's my first day. Like, oh, I've never done this before. I'm sorry. I don't know what I'll do it, but I've been watching 17 from a distance, so we did talk about this a little bit, but I want more. Mike has been living with it now for a couple of weeks. What are the new features or the improvements they have made that you're most excited about or that are keeping you on debating? Like, no, I got to get off of this. Outside of it just seeming generally to be stable.
So I can't really say that there are any features that I'm like, hey, I can't go back to 16 because you and I were talking about me downgrading the phone. That's on 17 right now to 16. Not for any particular reason, but for stability. And honestly, surprisingly, these last two weeks have been pretty stable. I think it was 14 or 15 that started out super stable, and unfortunately, I've been on a beta that started out super stable, and then by two or three, it's like, why am I on this beta? And that's the only reason the conversation came up about going back down to 16.5 or six, whatever the latest is since we traveled. What I enjoy about the beta so far, though, is the voicemail transcripts. I use that feature quite regularly, especially when JJ calls. I was on a call, so I hit voicemail, and then he's like he may answer. What's that mean.
There'S?
That I think the other thing that I will say that is kind of cool, and please take this with a grain of salt because it is in beta, so I don't know if this is intentional or not. And to me, this is pretty cool. When you're listening to a voice message in Imessages, if your screen locks, it doesn't stop playing the voice message, it continues playing it. And to me, that right there is pretty cool. When you're in a group of, like, five or six people, that all they.
Do is send five minute audio messages.
And it appears to go to the next one. That has not been consistent for me, though, and it does show on the lock screen with playback controls. So I'm cautiously hopeful that it is yeah, I'm cautiously hopeful that it is intentional, but we will see that right there. If it's in beta two, that's pretty cool. The other thing is your apps. And at first I'm like, whatever. I always hide my apps, so I'm not worried about the apps being hidden in the corner on the lower left hand corner. Well, now that I've seen it, I'm like I like how the apps are hidden in the lower left hand corner because you tap the apps button, you always have to tap it. It's always under there. So you don't have to worry about are the apps expanded? Are they not?
Oh, we're talking messaging apps. Okay, got you.
Messaging apps. Sorry. So inside of messages there's, that apps that you have with the Audio and Apple Pay and Stickers and a few other things. And with iOS 17, you hit the button in the lower left hand corner, and when that pops up, at this time, a vertical menu comes up. So I just trail my finger down the menu to roughly where I know it is. And audio, if you double tap on Audio, you're recording an audio message. So be aware of that. You don't have to double tap and hold on it, you're just double tapping, you are recording. Then you can locate the Stop button and hit Stop. That's pretty cool. I like that. And I think there's some expansion on that. Again, I don't know if this is how it's going to look when 17 drops, but right now it's looking pretty good. Do you have any specific questions about 17?
Nobody seems to have tried the feature that I was most excited or one of the features I was most excited about, which is voice message transcripts.
So voice message transcripts I think, are supposed to just show up in place of the voice message. Right now, when there's a voice message, it's blank to voiceover. You can tell that there's something there, but it is blank. So if you double tap there, it'll start playing the voice message. So I think that's coming. Maybe voiceover is not seeing it. Maybe it's not implemented yet. So I will play with that and see how it works. I thought you were going to say no one's trying the duplicate voice feature where you can make a clone of your own voice. And I went in there and it said 15 minutes. I'm like, oh, I've got 15 minutes to do this right now? And I'm hearing people say it takes like an hour. Haven't played with it yet. The other thing that I really want to play with, I haven't yet, I'm afraid I'll break my phone. But I guess that's the point of a beta is this assistive access mode that you can put the iPhone into. So you can limit what apps are on screen, but more importantly, what you can do is you can limit what apps or what buttons are visible while in a call. So if you have someone who always accidentally mutes themselves, you can actually hide the mute button. So they never can mute themselves in call. Or you can hide the keypad button if you'd like to do that as well, or hide the speaker button. So I want to play with that the initial setup that I went through until I realized this is going to take a little longer than I got time for right now. Looked fairly accessible. There were a couple of unlabeled buttons, and I think that's important to realize if you're trying these betas out is please provide the feedback. A lot of people complain about things not working the way that they should. And then you ask them, have you provided that feedback to Apple? And they say no. How is Apple going to know what you like if you don't provide that feedback? No, Apple does not listen to everyone's feedback, it might seem, but maybe they do. If you don't provide it, then they never know that it's an issue. What's the feedback utility?
And right now, during the early parts of the beta, this is the time to get feedback in, especially about major issues. Some things they're probably going to clean up, like the transcript is not showing up right now. That's a feature that's probably coming later. There's other things that are probably not in there yet or not fully implemented because it's still early days of the beta. And some features they hold back until the release of the OS. Just because it can create problems. Like a lot of icloud stuff does not get implemented during the early betas. You may not see it until later in the beta cycle or not at all until it releases. Because making this change is going to break all your other stuff, and all your other stuff is not on beta. But getting the feedback in is important. There are unlabeled buttons. Like, you can think to yourself that, oh, well, they're going to fix that unlabeled button, let me tell you. Let them know that there's an unlabeled button. If something's not behaving as you expect it to, don't just write it off as, oh, I'm on a beta. Be mindful that you're on a beta when things don't work. So don't jump on, well, I guess master Mastodon and Rage post about it. I'm not saying it, but Mike knew exactly what crossed my body. I was like, hood. That would be kind of funny to say that. I'm not saying it, though. Anyway, don't get on Mastodon and Rage post about it. Use the feedback. Because as soon as you jump on a beta on iOS or any Apple platform now, so maybe to watch, there's a feedback app that is added. Let them know, because right now is when the engineers are actually making changes and trying to fix things. As we get later into the summer, they're less likely to fix certain types of bugs and be focusing on trying to make sure it's stable for actual release. So get it in early, get it in often if you run into a lot of problems because this is the best time to get feedback, don't wait until we're at 17.2 and then be like, oh, well, this thing doesn't work. Like they're already working on 18 at that point, probably. So get it in, get it done. I forgot about that voice thing. I actually have forgotten about that. I have heard it takes about 15 minutes to set it up, but then it's usually about maybe an hour ish for it to finish processing and give you back the voice that you've just recorded because it's doing all of this on device and you have to be.
In a very quiet environment. It does not like any background noise. I've looked at it like twice and my environment's been too loud. Granted, it's been in the living room, but it wants the cleanest audio possible.
Yeah, it does. And it's going to do the processing on device. What I want though, I don't want to make my own voice and do anything with it. I want to get Laura. Hey, I wonder how much she would charge me to have her set this up on my phone so that when I read text messages and long emails, I can have them read by Laura. That would be amazing, man.
Hey, reach out to her, the Eleven Labs. See, you could rent her voice.
I would maybe do that. She does read very well.
Yes, and I bet an automated reading of it's so funny. So I don't know if you heard this, and I did not reach out to Steven because my phone was dead when I realized it. But today being Saturday, whatever the date is, June 17. If you listen to Double Tap, they have an international person talking about a device in mobility that came out or that was talked about last week. And the person is speaking in their native language and I don't remember what it was. And I'm like, okay, well, this is cool. And if you might listen to some NPR or other news article or news podcast, you know, you'll hear the native person speak and then a couple of seconds later, an English dub will come in and you'll hear someone talking and saying what the person is saying. Theoretically, I don't speak the other languages, so I don't know if that's actually what they're saying or if that's just Adams. But the fact is now, Steven or someone used Eleven Labs to bring in an English dubbed person who reads the translated version of what the person is saying. That is a clever use of Eleven Labs. And I recognize the voice from eleven labs. Okay. That's the usage of it. Good.
I was going to say. See, that's one of the things that when I look at where we are right now with machine learning and the augmented intelligence uses that is being put to eleven labs, that's the kind of use that I was thinking of before as well as the one that you came up with initially, which really kind of opened my eyes up to like, oh, I need to think about this a little differently, which was taking a newsletter and turning it into an audio version so that people can listen to the newsletter instead of just using their screen reader to read it. They could pop it into something like voice stream reader or whatever and listen to it or download it or anything like that. So that is an interesting use. I hadn't thought about that use case. That is actually really good. It is for providing that. And again, to me at least it doesn't put people out of work that would normally have done those voiceovers. Because let's be honest about, I don't know what Steven's budget is, but I'm going to pick on Steven here for a second. Stephen probably doesn't have the budget or AMI is not willing to and I'm not taking any cheap shots, we're just using this as an example. But they may not have it in the budget to go hire someone to be a translator and do what they have managed to do just using software. It is amazing. Same thing with the audiobooks being created. There are people who either they don't sell enough or the publisher is small enough or the author is small enough that they would never get their book into Audible. But using something like Eleven Labs, they can provide audio versions of their books. And audiobooks are a big thing. I'm not sure if you heard about this yet, but they're pretty big, pretty serious now.
Well, it may not even be the budget thing too. It's the turnaround time. Because if you send that to something to do a voiceover, they need a little while to get that done. You send this to Eleven Labs and I get another use that I'm using Eleven Labs for is in our local chapter. The secretary, she's using access technology and finds it difficult to read and speak out loud, which isn't an unheard of thing. I have troubles with that I can barely read and talk at the same time. But I told her, I said, hey Cassie, how about we drop these notes or we drop this minutes into Eleven Labs and then I create a recording. And then A, people on Zoom can easily hear it when we're doing that hybrid solution. But B, you don't have to stress out or worry about reading it, but your minutes still get read. I don't go and improve the minutes, I don't change them. I send them to eleven labs as I receive them. So it would be the same as if someone else was reading them. And to me I think that is more efficient for some people who they can do a great job taking notes, but maybe they can't read out loud or just for someone to consume that content too.
Yeah, that is a very good use of it. So again, it comes down to technology. What I've always said, what we've always said here over the years, it's not the technology that's the problem. It's how people decide to try to use it. Because there are some negative ways to use eleven labs for sure, but all of the people I know that are using it are using it for things like this, that make things more efficient or give people alternative formats, or just get something turned around quickly. Because, hey, this isn't the Emmys. We don't need a professional French English speaker to show up here. We just need to take this and translate it. Like, that is an awesome use case, man. I like it. Also, looking at things like Chat GPT, like the way I use oh, I got a bill. I got an invoice from how much was it? Open AI. It was like $2 and some change, but it's the first one they've sent me okay. For the API.
That's because both of us are using four more.
I think it's like, okay. It's like, oh, you have this invoice. I just saw the notification go by. It's like you charged $2.93. And I was like, that's it for the whole time I've been using that's it. I've been on four for like, two months now. Really? This is it.
That's interesting. Do you pay for plus? Yes, I am too, because I did come back. That bing search, man. That can be pretty cool. Especially when you can watch it doing it, man.
Yeah, they're doing clicking link, scrolling down.
Clicking link, going back.
I hadn't even played with that yet, but I saw it. But yeah, between Mac GPT, which is what I've been using, a lot of my interactions with Chat GPT have been through Mac GPT. It's super cool, man, the things that we're able to do. And I've been talking to more developers who have been using it to write code or using. I really wish that I really want to like Vs code. I really, really want to like Vs code. Part of one of the reasons I really want to like Vs code is because everybody else is using it, it seems like. So there's lots of tutorials on things to do, or there's lots of extensions that make life easier when writing code. Another reason, and the main reason I really want to like it now is because they have Copilot, and that would be fun, but I just can't like it, so I don't get to use it. But I've been talking to a few other people that are using it. We're talking people that are longtime developers. They've been doing web development or whatever development they're doing. They've been doing it for 20 ish years or so, 1520 years, and they're still using it. So it, to me, in a lot of ways, validates it as a use case, because you're not expecting it to spit out perfect code. What you're looking for is a starting point or a shortcut to get most of the way there. You still got to test your code. I don't care how you got it, test your code. If you copy and paste it off of stack overflow, test a code before you put it in a production environment. It's just a rule. That's how that works. If you wrote it from scratch, test a code before you deploy it to.
Production because that's what you do. I got access to the Labs feature from Google that allows you to give it a prompt and then have it write something right there within a Google Doc and it's kind of cool. It's a little clunky right now. It's dome beta. Going back to that, give some feedback, but I can see where that would be super useful or having something like that type of copilot with you while you're in Windows or in macOS writing somewhere and you're like, hey, write me a professional but less formal letter about this and have it write it. And then you read through, make the changes that make it yours and move on with your day. Right now, that is how I need to get back to using Mac GPT after I reset this computer.
Yeah. And now, at least in the latest version, the inline is working. So I've been playing more with that. I'm actually using it right now. Well, not right this second, but I'm using it and plan to finish using it to generate the initial version of the next newsletter. The next at guys. Scoop.
Yeah. So if you're not there, go to Atgize.com, click the newsletter link and get on that newsletter because I'm sure we have something coming up in the newsletter. Oh, we have new products in the newsletter that I couldn't think of what's coming up in the newsletter.
There's a couple of things. So yeah, go subscribe. Because we're not doing a free ad for JJ this week.
Because you didn't even listen to the last ad.
No, he did. There's no feedback.
Or the last unmute show, which was a 30 minutes ad for Jake Thursday's.
Here's what we need to do. Oh, that was a whole ad for it was not meant to be at all. Check out Thursday. We talk about stuff that we are traveling with or plan to travel with. And I believe the next upcoming IA cast is also going to be talking about some travel stuff. So if you're like me for sure, and you have not been anywhere for the past couple of years because of lockdowns, and then after that, it's like still not going anywhere. Now you're about to go get on a plane for the first time in a while, or you're about to hop on a bus and go a distance for the first time in a while. I'm checking out everything. Like I'm looking at tips. The only tip I have not taken that somebody gave me that honestly is a good tip. It's just not worth it for me financially to do it right now. Is the airport fast check in thing because it's like $80 a month. And I honestly at this month, I mean, excuse me.
I'm about to look at some people that I know that have that in a whole different light.
No, not $80 a month. It's $80. I don't know if it's $80 a year or I think it's $80 a year or something like that. But the reason I haven't paid for it is because right now, from my perspective, the only flights I'm taking is from Birmingham to Houston and from Houston back to Birmingham this year, I don't have an expectation that I'm getting on another plane in 2023. So not paying for it.
Yeah. And for those who are curious what Demosi is talking about, the TSA PreCheck.
Is the official thank you. That's what I was shot. I knew it was something.
And it's $78 for five years.
Oh, crap. Maybe I should have paid for it. I will go pay for it now, then, because I will be on more planes over the next five years. I thought it was for a year. That's probably why.
So did I, but I just found it. I'm like, this looks a little bit more interesting. So maybe we will look into probably.
Won'T benefit me for this flight because I think it's too late because it takes a little while, but I'll go pay for it. I think. I thought it was for a year, and I'm like, well, I'll have to pay it again next year. I don't think I'm going anywhere else in 2023. I don't know that JJ is flying me anywhere. Bedrock certainly ain't flying me anywhere.
Yeah.
Having a conversation with the CFO the other day, man, that guy's a jerk. Oh.
So what else is new with you?
Oh, man, I broke this headset. Let's see what else is going on. Man, I just spent all day shopping, shopping, shopping, like, actually walking around inside of stores and picking up things and looking at like, I haven't done this in a long time. It was tiring. If it wasn't for the fact that we are already recording a day late and I know you got to edit and this ain't the only thing going on in your world, I might have been like, Mike, man, look, let's kick this down the road. But I'm actually okay. I'm all right. But I did go buy some. I just went and bought some. I actually really needed to go buy new clothes. I went and did that when I bought a few shirts, few pair of pants. No shorts, because I don't do shorts.
Really. I'm always in shorts.
I know. Teal was like, I should tell Mike to tell you to buy these shorts. And I was like, Mike would agree.
But I'm going to buy them.
Mike would agree with you that I probably should get these shorts. They're nice shorts, but I don't like shorts. I was like, mike always wears shorts. I said, Mike will be in shorts at Conviction. She's like, well, maybe. I was like, no, it's not got anything to do with Conviction. And no shorts. It's just me. I don't want shorts.
Yeah, I'm always in shorts. And a polo. Don't know why I stuck with that. The polos was because I had some inappropriate T shirts and I didn't want to accidentally wear them to work. And then I'm like, hey, polos are pretty comfortable and they're safe. So if I'm on video or if I'm talking and then all of a sudden, that's literally all I wear now. And the shorts I just have always worn.
Shorts for me is usually either like lightweight khakis or jeans and T shirt.
Do you label your clothes at all? Because I do not, and I thought that was an interesting conversation on Double Tap, where they were using NFC, someone demoed using an NFC label to tell which jeans were which or I'm sorry, let's say it the way the rest of the world does which trousers were which.
I do not.
I don't either. I pull out shorts and follow generally.
Here's the thing for legal. Most of my stuff is so interchangeable that it doesn't matter. And I intentionally started shopping like that years ago. It didn't matter. There are some things that are very specific, but I can recognize that shirt, this particular shirt that has this weird green in it that doesn't go with everything, where it has some kind of textured lettering on the back of it. And I don't have any other shirt that feels like that, but most days is grab a pair of jeans or a pair of dicky work pants and a T shirt and doesn't matter what color the T shirt is. It can be black. It's going to be black, white, or gray, and the pants are going to either be khaki colored or they're going to be black or they're going to be dark blue, unless they're jeans and they may be that stonewash color or something. It's so interchangeable, it really doesn't matter. I do know some people that are using way around tags for their clothing, but they also have a ton of clothes. I do not have a ton of clothes. When I say a ton of clothes, I mean they could go a whole probably three months and not have to wash clothes.
That's too much clothes.
That's a lot of clothes, man. But hey, it's what you do when you like shopping and you don't have children.
Yeah.
So on that note, look, I'm not taking a cheap shop.
I know kids.
I bought a whole lot of clothes. Look, I had a lot more Jordans when I didn't have to say it.
Yeah, I had I almost had a lot more tech when I didn't have kids in my life, but I don't know if that's actually true.
I feel like I have more tech now than I've ever me too.
Me too.
Because the only thing I can justify spending money on because I do kind of need this thing right here. I need this hard drive because I'm going to put the kids books on it. So see, there we go.
So the last discussion topic I have and we can wrap it up after this is demosi. What are we planning to do for convention in two weeks from today? Because I have no clue.
Me either, but let's figure that out today.
I will tell you what my idea is. Marty wants to bring Steven on for an interview and bring Steven and Sean on and talk about Double Tap and maybe publish that the last Thursday of June. Because we both realized last week that there's five Thursdays in June. And two days before we realized that, Marty said, hey, what are we going to do when there's five Thursdays in a month? I'm like, oh, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Well, guess what? We're at that bridge. So we were talking about bringing Steven on. So what we could do is repurpose that onto the show if that's what we do. But I don't have an idea. So if we miss the first Monday in July, it will be the first Monday that we miss. But I think we'll be able to publish something there.
I think we'll get something out. So I also had the idea of and I still do for that matter, want to bring Steven on to technically working and have a chat with him. I would like to bring Sean on because Sean has an interesting background. According to Chat GPT, he's a programmer with years of experience with CSS and HTML. So I want to talk to him about that.
You should send him his description and say so. I'd like to talk about your fast. Never mentioned this on double tap. Interesting. Are you telling me the Internet is lying to me?
I kind of felt like knowing that Steven's schedule, or at least me thinking Steven's schedule is very crunched. I didn't want to try to squeeze that in with so much other stuff going on around getting ready to travel anyway for us. But that is an interview I still want to do. I had an idea of us just recording a couple of things here and there. One going through reaper settings that you have as I'm setting up my reaper. It could be a clip that we could put together, maybe a few other things like that or a few little random conversations and just kind of make a mismatch show that we publish on that Monday and let everybody know that dropping that show as well, that we're at convention. So if you're in Houston or you're in Schaumburg, we've been here since Friday, so come on, see us.
Come on, see us if you haven't yet. Also, another thing I thought would be fun would be, hey, let's chat with JJ on technically working too. So that might be a conversation, maybe not for convention, but if you have something you want us to talk about or someone you want us to bring on, because we do want to start bringing someone on occasionally it's going to still be demosi and I, but occasionally we want to start talking to other people. Maybe we want to talk to you. If you're listening and you're like, hey, I technically work, every once in a while you want to come on and share how you're working, feel free to reach out to us. What I'm going to tell you to do, because we realized when I copied democi on this, that TW at your Ownpay.com may not be working. So drop me an email, Michael at Payone Media and that will come right to me. Or reach out on Mastodon when we close up the show. So if you've emailed TW at your Ownpay.com and we haven't replied to you, please just follow up and send another email.
Yeah. And we'll get that fixed at some point here in the near future. Yeah. If you know of anybody or if there is a topic that you would like us to go deeper on where we maybe spend a whole 30 to 45 minutes on a specific topic and you have ideas, mastodon will be one way for sure. He's payon at Unmute Community.
That is really cool. I'm glad we set that up.
I set that up and I was like, wait, is that what I set up? Oh, yeah, it is. Unmute Community. Okay.
I keep thinking Unmute Social because everyone.
Else is because everybody's doing social. Yeah.
But then in my mind I say you're part of the Unmute Community.
There you go. I like that. Maybe that'll help me be more certain that that is what it is too. Like I said it up, but I don't remember what it is.
I'm part of the unmute community. You're part marty is right now listeners are part of the community, but they can't have Mastodon account because honestly, really, I don't want to get into managing a server for people. And so if you're on Mastodon, you already have Mastodon account. You can follow us at hostname at Unmute Community.
Yeah. So I'm Damasi at Unmute Community. He's payone at Unmute Community. And I think you actually said Michael earlier.
I might have, yeah. Payonetune. I think what I actually said was Michael at Payone Media, but maybe I did give the wrong Mastodon too earlier. So if I did, it is Payonetunmute Community because that's my name now.
That's payown at Unmute community and Imdamashe at Unmute community So if you got suggestions for stuff you would like us to talk about, essentially what's going to happen regardless is it will be some pre recorded content because I don't know what the ACB schedule is, but that Monday for NFB. We're on the floor from nine to five.
We are open from eleven to five.
On Monday and Mike's not going to have time to edit. I mean, we would have to record probably like that Friday. But I don't get to Houston Friday until 09:00 p.m and I need to.
Figure out if I'm going to Schaumburg on Thursday or Friday because I am highly confused now actually leaving because I think I'm going Thursday, but I don't know why I decided to go a day early because I don't need to be there until Friday. So now I just got to go look at my ticket. So find me in Schaumburg, booth 46.
Yeah, but I have our booth number somewhere. A eleven, we were a eleven. Mike was paying more attention to that was I saw it, I was like, okay, I'll file that away at some point. But yeah. So I'll be in Houston starting on Friday. I'm coming in sort of a day early. But the way the flights were going to work out, that's the best day for me to get there anyway.
And that's probably why if I am going in a day early, it was that case for me too.
Yeah. Because Friday will be the set up day for you at AC.
Our setup is Saturday. That's why I'm a little confused because yeah, I've checked that like three times yesterday.
Okay. Yeah. Because set up for us is on Saturday too. So I'll be there if I would have flown in otherwise on Saturday, I would have gotten there way after set up because don't really have a way to get to Birmingham at six in the morning or 430 in the morning because the flight takes off at six.
Yeah, that's a little early.
A little early. So that's another reason me coming in on that Friday is good. Then I'm flying out on the Friday after that. So I'm assuming we'll probably record unless something really goes horribly wrong. We'll record the Saturday after convention. We'll figure out what we're going to do for Monday if you stay tuned. Yeah, stay tuned. Just stick around. Let us know if you have any recommendations though, if there's something specific you would like us to talk about. But my plan was to just do a couple of short, ten to 15 minutes, little snippets of us actually working together on something and then just put them together and make about an hour long show. 45 minutes to hour long show that we publish on that Monday and remind you that we're in a eleven if you're at NFB in Houston and we're in Boot 46 if you're in Schaumburg at ACB. See, I know where we are.
Yeah. He'll remember that by the end of convention.
Yeah, no, see that's the beauty of recording it though, right? Because I don't have to get it right. I don't have to remember it once I'm there. Hey, we're a eleven. Hey, I like that. We just need to figure out how to get a Y on there and then we're accessibility. Right? I did not put that together.
You should tell JJ. We need a big sign that keeps saying, Why? Why?
Put it on the blast.
There you go. I will record you guys. Why put me on the blast? And then people be like, Why? Are you saying why?
Because a eleven y yeah, man.
So, yeah, I think we can I mean, unless you want to talk about anything else, wrap it up and this will be one of our shorter shows.
I don't really have anything else. There was some because you had a thing which was saying box and I had a thing, and I don't remember what it was.
I don't remember what it was either. Sounds good. Well, next week we will be here and I will tell you all if I pull the soundcraft out, we'll see how that goes. Because I'm thinking about a mixer again, just because of something to play with, and I don't really have a reason. So we'll see if I come back to that or not. Demosi how can people find you on Mastodon if they didn't hear 30 seconds ago?
I am Damasi Damashe at Unmute Community. And he's payon payown at Unmute Community on Mastodon. So go check us out there. I have really been enjoying the conversations. I don't always engage with every single one. Sometimes it's not a need. But I do really enjoy the engagement that I seem to see just from our show alone on Macedon. So keep it up. Be mindful that I'm an old crotchety dude. Even though I'm only 40 some, I'm still a very old crotchety man. And I would yell, Get off my lawn if I thought you were on my lawn. So with all that being said, we appreciate everybody for listening. We thank you for sharing. I appreciate the feedback we get. I've seen a couple of pieces of feedback about people really appreciating the last show. And people also appreciate the other content that we produce or that Michael produces here, which is unmute on Tuesdays, the I don't know, shelf on show on.
Wednesdays, the Thursday show.
Thursday on mute.
Fine.
The Friday find and the Sunday deep dive or something.
Yeah, Sunday teaching there. We are supposed to be deep dives, but we haven't come up with a name for that. But check it all out. Soon to be at a website near you.
Yeah, man.
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