WEBVTT 00:01.092 --> 00:07.027 I'm Chris Farrell from the All Things Good and Dirty podcast, a wacky weekend morning show, part of the Goony Geek Network, 00:07.027 --> 00:12.059 just like the show you're checking out right now. Shows on the network are individually owned, and the opinions expressed 00:12.059 --> 00:16.085 may not reflect others. Find other awesome geeky shows over at gunagieeknetwork.com. 00:54.067 --> 01:01.039 And welcome to Play Comics, where once again, we are here looking at a video game based on a comic and how well that game 01:01.039 --> 01:10.095 represents its comic source material. Today, I am very, very pleased to be joined by my friend, Adam, who swears that that 01:10.095 --> 01:17.026 is not why we're looking at the Addams family, but it kind of is is because he told me the story earlier and I decided it 01:17.026 --> 01:22.021 kind of is. So Adam, how are you today now that I'm making up facts about your life? 01:22.037 --> 01:29.075 You know, I'm doing a fantastic job of not disagreeing with you right now and trying to think of a game that starts with your name. 01:30.036 --> 01:31.051 I can't think of anything. 01:31.078 --> 01:33.088 Just the Chris Christie video games. 01:34.002 --> 01:37.080 I think even the bible games don't start with Chris. 01:38.026 --> 01:44.054 Yeah. They're all way too easy. There should be something out there. We're gonna I'm gonna find something at some point, just 01:44.054 --> 01:46.004 so I can say the same thing about you. 01:46.054 --> 01:48.005 Okay. I can work with that. 01:48.013 --> 01:55.025 But until then, we spent some time looking at the Addams family. It's gonna be really awkward here talking about this, just 01:55.025 --> 02:02.009 like it was really awkward finding everything online, because we're looking at the 1992 release, which was based on the 1991 02:02.039 --> 02:08.050 movie, and they both had the same name. And of course, the name is the name of the franchise overall. 02:08.088 --> 02:09.020 Mhmm. 02:09.020 --> 02:13.014 And it's just really awkward because it's all just called The Addams Family. 02:13.028 --> 02:17.029 Borderline on Googleable. Way to go the world before SEO. 02:17.043 --> 02:23.021 Security through obscurity in the sense that there's too much information, I guess. 02:23.046 --> 02:31.006 I I guess so. This is like one of those wonderful licensed games that is so licensed that they didn't even try to come up 02:31.006 --> 02:32.027 with a clever subtitle. Title. 02:32.027 --> 02:41.065 The movie was based on the 1964, if I remember right, TV series Mhmm. Which in turn was based on some newspaper comics. 02:42.001 --> 02:42.017 Yep. 02:42.017 --> 02:45.039 I mean, the comics are little one panel things. They're fun. 02:45.053 --> 02:46.073 Yeah. They're from the New Yorker. 02:46.073 --> 02:49.063 Because at one point, the New Yorker had good funny comics. 02:50.015 --> 02:57.011 They did. And fun fact, the New Yorker was so angry about the fact that The Addams Family got turned into a TV show on the 02:57.011 --> 03:06.001 sixties that they stopped running The Addams Family comic. What? Yeah. Because TV was lowbrow. New Yorkers were smart people. 03:06.034 --> 03:11.032 They last for one editor, and the next guy was, like, that's stupid. Bring back the Charles Addams comics. 03:11.046 --> 03:14.098 Okay. Good. Because that was just really? 03:15.028 --> 03:16.096 Yeah. Wow. It's true story. 03:16.096 --> 03:23.057 See, that's why I like having you on the show because you know all these weird history things that I don't even know how I 03:23.057 --> 03:25.019 would have accidentally run across. 03:25.049 --> 03:32.006 Oh, I I did some deep dives, but I'm also a huge fan of the Addams Family. I think I've seen everything that's ever been made 03:32.006 --> 03:34.088 that is Addams Family or Addams Family adjacent. 03:35.018 --> 03:40.006 So what was it that got you wanting to look at the Addams family in the first place? 03:40.051 --> 03:46.091 True true facts. It was on Nick at night when I was a kid, and Addams is right there in the title. So I had to watch it. It 03:46.091 --> 03:54.003 was part of that weird thing with, like, The Munsters where it's, like, baby's first goth. Like, oh, here's all these weird 03:54.003 --> 04:00.084 and creepy and kooky people, but they're actually a lot of fun and, you know, that's basically who I ended up spending most 04:00.084 --> 04:08.001 of my life with anyway. The Adam family was just this kind of skewed view on reality that I really appreciated even as a little 04:08.001 --> 04:12.061 kid, and then I just kept with it because there's a whole universe of Adam's family nonsense out there. 04:12.061 --> 04:19.041 I can never decide what I like better between the Adam seemingly and the monsters. I think most of the time when I can make 04:19.041 --> 04:28.046 a decision, it is what kind of mood are you in? Because the monsters seem to be more they just try to do everything super 04:28.053 --> 04:35.025 normal and everything's cool, and the Addams Family is, yeah, we're weird as fuck and deal with it. 04:35.025 --> 04:41.080 It it's one of those things that, like, went back and forth as I got older because the monsters are just really visually very, 04:41.080 --> 04:49.008 very cool, but when you're adult, you're like, oh, Gomez and Morticia are like the ideal couple. This is maybe the perfect family. 04:49.022 --> 04:54.048 I mean, it does include a brother and sister trying to kill each other. So, yeah, that that pretty much tracks. 04:54.088 --> 05:01.012 Yeah. That's every every family. Yeah. But they never do kill each other. And isn't that what's important? I mean, there's 05:01.012 --> 05:08.078 a multi generational family living in one house. It's never clear on who the grandmother's the mother of in the TV show or 05:08.078 --> 05:11.001 who Fester's related to, but it's fine. 05:11.001 --> 05:13.073 Just assume they grab Fester off the side of the road. 05:14.005 --> 05:18.023 Yeah. He's present, you know. Although, some have to be biologically related to anyone. 05:18.045 --> 05:27.013 One thing the TV show did, which the movies, kinda did as much as the movie can, is add more depth to what the comics had 05:27.013 --> 05:34.071 because the comics, for anybody who hasn't seen them, are essentially a far side setup. It's one panel, there's your thing, 05:34.071 --> 05:41.025 you gotta get your joke in there in that one little rectangle, and that's all you get. So, there's not a lot of room for character 05:41.025 --> 05:46.092 development and there's not a lot of room for getting a lot of basic background facts of anything. 05:53.040 --> 05:59.061 Thing. Yeah. That one has switched with pretty much every adaptation, and even in the the newspaper comic, most of the characters 05:59.067 --> 06:05.001 didn't have names. Like, Fester and Huxley do not get named until the television show. 06:05.001 --> 06:12.006 That's just so weird to me that you wouldn't have a name mostly because as I try to make characters for things, they have 06:12.006 --> 06:16.004 a name even if it's some stupid name just so I can keep them straight. 06:16.007 --> 06:22.098 Yeah. Well, Pugsley was just the boy and, you know, another one of those obscure facts, Charles Adams wanted did name the 06:22.098 --> 06:27.032 characters for the television show, so he came up with the names. But he wanted to call Pugsley Pubert. 06:27.046 --> 06:33.023 Like Hubert, but with a p? P. Yeah. That's, certainly a choice. 06:34.025 --> 06:39.023 Yeah. Then you said it's the baby's name in the second movie, though. Here's all your fun facts for Adam's family. 06:39.029 --> 06:43.087 And, hopefully, there's more fun facts because, eventually, we'll look at the tie in game for the second movie. 06:44.025 --> 06:53.078 Uh-oh. It it actually it holds up really well. I mean, the movies it especially the 91 movie, but also the sequel are so far 06:53.078 --> 07:01.059 ahead of their time in terms of, I don't know, both writing and the humor. Like, they would fit in incredibly well right now. 07:01.059 --> 07:11.089 The way that Christina Ricci plays Wednesday in this 91 movie very, very easily could have been swapped into the Netflix Wednesday 07:11.097 --> 07:15.011 series, and the only issue would have been that she seems to be younger. 07:15.041 --> 07:25.043 Yeah. It it kinda really went for the, the whole thing of Wednesday being the, maybe, the younger sibling like she was in 07:25.043 --> 07:31.096 the TV show. It's hard to tell. But, yeah, Christina Ricci is, like, 10, 11 years old. We were playing 10, 11 years old in 07:31.096 --> 07:35.048 that first movie, and that's a creepy little kid and I love it. 07:35.048 --> 07:44.015 So deadpan, I'm a psychopath. I look just like everybody else. I just had more emotion in it saying that because I can't take 07:44.029 --> 07:47.003 enough emotion out of my voice to make that work. 07:47.025 --> 07:54.059 Yeah. They did a, they did a fantastic job recasting her with Jenna Ortega in the Wednesday show, but I don't think anybody 07:54.059 --> 08:03.080 can really ever hold a candle to the Christina Ricci performance or or to Raul Julia as the best Gomez Adams that ever will be. 08:03.080 --> 08:11.095 Raul Julia has been the best part of multiple movies from my childhood now, this and Street Fighter. 08:12.009 --> 08:15.079 I was gonna say, have have you gotten to do Street Fighter the movie the game? 08:15.085 --> 08:17.007 I have not yet. 08:19.039 --> 08:27.039 That that movie like, Raul Julia, he's such a good actor. He's such it's such legit stuff that he does this weird genre of 08:27.039 --> 08:36.006 nonsense, and he gives a 100% effort. Like, if you ever look at just the cast list for that 91 movie, it's like, these are 08:36.006 --> 08:42.024 all, like, legitimate real actors that are playing The Addams Family. 08:42.046 --> 08:48.079 Ugly was the only one that hadn't done anything or went on to do things pretty much. Right? 08:49.001 --> 08:56.005 Right. Yeah. I mean, you've got, you know, Angelica Houston who plays Morticia. Of course, you've got Round Julia. You got 08:56.005 --> 09:04.059 Doc Brown playing Fester. You've got a ton of little drop in characters that are all huge name actors in that movie. It's 09:04.059 --> 09:12.086 just an amazingly stacked cast. Oh, you you got Carol Kane as the grandmother. Like, it's these, like, legends of screening 09:12.092 --> 09:15.057 comedy just doing the silliest possible movie. 09:15.073 --> 09:24.065 Have to think that it was people seeing, oh, wait, I can be in this TV show that I loved when I was younger and just jumping on the opportunity. 09:25.019 --> 09:31.064 Absolutely. And I think, like, the fact that they did it at such a high level of quality, like, so as compared to the game, 09:31.064 --> 09:40.067 they don't cut any corners in that movie. Like, it is beautifully shot. The music is amazing. The effects are really impressive 09:40.081 --> 09:44.083 for the early nineties, and they just they went all out. 09:45.013 --> 09:52.069 Even the green screen 4 thing, just a hand that walks around, I sit there and I'm asking Kaylee, oh, man, you know, I'd love 09:52.069 --> 09:59.010 to see how they did that. And she knows that that I mean, like, see the actual nuts and bolts of how they did it, and not, 09:59.010 --> 10:07.054 oh, did they use a green screen? Even knowing that's what it was, there were maybe a few frames across the entire thing where 10:07.054 --> 10:13.039 I could see the weird color that you get on the edge of green screen stuff that really tips you off. So the fact that they 10:13.039 --> 10:21.098 could pull this off for a 91 movie that well, especially after you've got versions of it now that have been upscaled and everything, 10:22.042 --> 10:25.016 and it still looks that good, that's just amazing. 10:25.054 --> 10:32.053 That's like that's putting a lot of love into the craft for basically a gag character. I mean, even though they ended up being 10:32.053 --> 10:38.069 huge, I remember there being, like, mostly, like, Pizza Hut commercials with thing in them. Pretty much reusing footage from 10:38.069 --> 10:40.039 the movie, but still. 10:40.069 --> 10:49.092 The fact that you could have a hand have that much personality is amazing and just a testament to how much everybody really 10:49.092 --> 10:54.026 appreciated what was going on with this franchise and the fact that they got to be a part of it. 10:56.023 --> 11:03.035 Absolutely. I don't know. That's a movie that I will still sit down and watch. My kids have sat down and watched it, and they 11:03.035 --> 11:11.031 love it. And that's, like, a huge mark of success when a 30 year old movie can still entertain its target audience. 11:11.052 --> 11:15.067 I don't believe you on how many years it's been, but I'm glad that your kids 11:15.067 --> 11:19.054 enjoy it. That movie is 32 years old. No. 33. No. 11:19.054 --> 11:22.021 At least I'm older than it still. 11:22.021 --> 11:28.015 That movie is almost old enough to have midlife crisis. Oh, what? Yep. 11:28.045 --> 11:36.080 Oh. 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Once again, that's Tales From the Backlog available wherever your podcasts are found. 13:37.001 --> 13:44.039 So those are some great shows to check out, but first, let's finish up with this one. And, Adam, this game, on one sense, 13:44.067 --> 13:50.035 is a giant mess and almost a miracle that we're gonna be able to cover it. 13:50.035 --> 14:00.003 Full disclosure, I remember loving this game when I rented it from Blockbuster Video as a child and, I might have been a really dumb kid. 14:00.003 --> 14:03.013 I I mean, I've heard other stories. You were definitely a dumb kid, but so was I. 14:03.091 --> 14:07.009 Yeah. That's fair. Yay. Life before the Internet. 14:07.049 --> 14:16.079 I know. Right? This game was released on the regular Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Game Gear, Game Boy, and Sega 14:16.079 --> 14:25.097 Master System. There were also some computer versions, which we don't care about here, and maybe kind of a turbo graphics 14:26.003 --> 14:34.041 16 game because that one was finished and then people didn't like it, so they made this one for all the other consoles and 14:34.041 --> 14:40.043 that's all we're really going to say about the actually no we'll talk a little bit about the turbo graphics one Just to knock 14:40.043 --> 14:53.014 it out of the way, you get to be Alfred, the lawyer guy, and go around and do things because I forgot because I wasn't actually 14:53.014 --> 15:00.055 planning on talking about this one. I do want to acknowledge its existence just to mostly cut off anybody who says, oh, look. 15:00.055 --> 15:02.079 There's a TurboGrafx game that you didn't talk about. 15:02.079 --> 15:09.031 I love the fact that somebody out there went, you know who was the best part about this movie? The lawyer. 15:09.045 --> 15:11.077 He actually is a really good part about the movie though. 15:11.077 --> 15:18.083 Yeah. Actually, Tully is great, and I have no complaints about him. But he's, like, the last character I would want to play as. 15:19.005 --> 15:29.005 He's, like, the number 4 wide receiver on an NFL team, and he's still really good. And he was probably really good at every 15:29.005 --> 15:34.038 other team he's been on, but you got these other 3 guys that are just amazing. 15:34.076 --> 15:43.032 Yeah. He's like a non SCC quarterback. He's gonna get drafted just, you know, there's other guys. That's right. That was sports people. 15:43.062 --> 15:49.033 Oh, just wait. We're gonna have a whole sports episode coming up once I could sucker someone into doing it. 15:49.049 --> 15:50.093 Oh, I can't wait. 15:50.093 --> 15:51.097 I'll let you know. 15:51.097 --> 15:52.047 Nice. 15:53.025 --> 16:02.030 But this game, as I said earlier, was released in 1992. Wikipedia doesn't have an exact date on it, and I forgot to pull up 16:02.030 --> 16:09.002 Mobi games as I was looking. The Super Nintendo one anyway doesn't have a month. Same with the Sega Genesis, except that it 16:09.002 --> 16:18.041 was released in 93. The regular Nintendo one was released in January of 1992, and that's pretty common. Movie tie in games 16:18.041 --> 16:27.069 used to not try to come out right with the movie. This one was actually praised, if that's the right word for it, for coming 16:27.069 --> 16:30.006 out as close to the movie's release as it did. 16:31.022 --> 16:40.059 And weirdly weirdly enough, they start production on this game before the movie, which is kind of never done in that era. 16:40.089 --> 16:47.034 It's another reason why we're not really gonna talk about the computer games because most of them are a completely different 16:47.034 --> 16:54.073 game from this one. And I've already set the precedent that I'm not looking at games that are just computer only because there's 16:54.073 --> 16:58.001 way too many of them that are just really stupid, and I don't wanna look at them. 16:58.001 --> 17:07.012 That's fair enough. And, like, as much of a, let's say, cash in as this game is, it still has the pedigree of being a real 17:07.012 --> 17:10.012 honest to God video game that you can play if you try. 17:10.037 --> 17:20.002 The whole plot of this Addams Family game is that you are Gomez Addams having to go around and save the other members of your 17:20.002 --> 17:29.003 family from different people who have kidnapped them. Pugsley and Wednesday and Granny have all been taken. You have villains 17:29.003 --> 17:36.019 from the movie that are being the main bosses that you have to go rescue your family members from. And unlike a lot of tie 17:36.019 --> 17:43.063 in games and stuff, this one this is rather open world, you know, as much as you could have for this era. You just kinda do 17:43.063 --> 17:46.037 the levels and whatever or you feel like doing them in. 17:46.043 --> 17:55.054 Yeah. And there's no, like, rhyme or reason to progression in the game. You can grab power ups and carry them from area to 17:55.054 --> 18:04.043 area. You can except one version of the game has a slightly different ending than the other games. Otherwise, it's just this 18:04.043 --> 18:07.001 weird chaotic mess of Adam's family. 18:07.023 --> 18:12.095 Which really is the only proper kind of Adams family, so I think it works really well. 18:13.041 --> 18:16.039 It it works. It captures the vibe at the very least. 18:16.069 --> 18:24.068 As Gomez Adams, you get to also run around collecting a bunch of money in the form of dollar signs just floating around, which 18:24.074 --> 18:32.025 Gomez likes his fancy things, so you know, he's gonna make money how he needs to to get his fancy things. And the entire plot 18:32.025 --> 18:39.091 of the movie is based around trying to get to this fortune that they have buried somewhere in the mansion. So it really ties 18:39.091 --> 18:42.001 into a lot of things so well. 18:42.043 --> 18:49.095 It does, and it's also kind of in most of the versions of the game kind of an abandoned point that to release the final member 18:49.095 --> 18:57.031 of the family, you have to collect $1,000,000 in one version of the game. And the other ones, the dollars are present. 18:57.037 --> 19:04.062 Kinda like points in games of this era. Yeah. They're just kind of there because people expect them to be there. 19:04.091 --> 19:12.035 So here here is my my mind blowing take on the Evans family. When I sat down to play it, I kept having this, like, nagging 19:12.035 --> 19:17.001 feeling. This reminds me of something. Like, oh my god. I feel like I'm playing Braid. 19:17.011 --> 19:18.023 I don't know that one. 19:18.023 --> 19:25.092 The very famous games as our little time travel time mechanics game. It's like it's it's a very pretentious little platformer, 19:26.023 --> 19:34.041 but the art style is so similar between the 2 games that I just sat there and giggled like an idiot for, like, 5 minutes. 19:34.082 --> 19:37.000 I'm gonna have to go check this one out then. 19:37.005 --> 19:42.091 Trust me, somebody's gonna get super mad that I said that. Probably Jonathan Blow actually. This is gonna get super mad said 19:42.091 --> 19:47.095 that. He's the very pretentious new shoe man in the game. That's right. Hedgehog. He'll, he'll love that. 19:47.095 --> 19:49.081 I'll leave that in just in case he listens. 19:50.083 --> 19:58.059 I hope he does. He definitely name searches himself, so That's right. I'm going hard on an indie game developer from 20 years ago. 19:58.065 --> 20:03.077 We've gone at people before like that, so there there is a precedent. 20:04.007 --> 20:09.061 No one else could see the look of your face when I started in on that. That made all the difference. 20:09.091 --> 20:20.052 Yes. As far as newspaper comics go, we haven't looked at a ton. There were a few things in that Atari wrap up episode. I think 20:20.052 --> 20:28.058 it was mostly Snoopy and Popeye. There's Snoopy Sports. There's a Phantom 2040 game, Little Nemo the Dream Master, Garfield, 20:28.088 --> 20:37.056 Dick Tracy, Dennis the menace, the American version of that character, and the why does this exist, we could not figure it 20:37.056 --> 20:40.070 out after hours of trying Fester's quest. 20:41.016 --> 20:47.008 Oh, I feel like you've left out one real winner that you're gonna have to punish somebody with later. Maybe it's a Patreon 20:47.022 --> 20:50.036 stretch goal. Have you heard of Dilbert's desktop, Gabe? 20:50.058 --> 20:58.024 I have not. Also, I'm assuming it came out later, so it might not have to be a Patreon exclusive. 20:58.086 --> 21:07.022 Yeah. This was a late nineties video game. It it was pretty pretty bad. I mean, it's a Dilbert video game. I don't know what 21:07.022 --> 21:08.092 anyone would expect out of it. 21:09.016 --> 21:21.064 Man, I wonder if there are any famous podcast people that I could get on to talk about Scott Adams, the Dilbert creator, and 21:21.064 --> 21:24.095 then the making of this game that you're speaking of? 21:25.009 --> 21:28.009 I don't know. I can't think of anyone. 21:28.015 --> 21:32.055 Well, I bet if there was somebody, then I would try to make it out. 21:32.055 --> 21:33.053 That would be excellent. 21:35.088 --> 21:45.060 Anyway You also have a pretty big difference in the people who worked on this game. For the 2nd Genesis version, it was published 21:45.060 --> 21:53.025 by Acclaim who put out, like, almost all the good things that you can think of. The entire Turok series, a a bunch of the 21:53.025 --> 22:03.079 Spiderman games of that 16 bit era, the crow city of angels, Batman and Robin and Batman forever, children of the atom, a 22:03.079 --> 22:09.069 ton of good comic based games, and developing the game and publishing 22:17.006 --> 22:23.030 You know, just to be to be fair, they also published the first Batman video game. 22:23.030 --> 22:27.086 My research and note taking here have failed me. 22:29.067 --> 22:40.043 Well, luckily, I am a horrifying research monster because that's what I do in my day job. And also, I had, like, one of those 22:40.049 --> 22:49.036 strange moments of deja vu saying the the ocean splash page, and they made so many of what I think of as, like, the c tier 22:49.058 --> 22:58.081 movie tie ins. Like, not the ones that are absolute garbage and not one that you ever made the mistake of buying, but the 22:58.081 --> 23:07.083 kind of stuff you would rent from, like, Hollywood video. So they did Jurassic Park. They did Hook. They did a couple of wrestling 23:07.097 --> 23:18.017 games. They did a version of Total Recall. They had a truly weird catalog of games. Oh, and all the Robocops. They're a weird 23:18.017 --> 23:24.095 little publisher because they, like, I feel like more than anybody they found that niche of we can make a licensed game that's 23:24.095 --> 23:33.046 about 5 hours long and people will pay out the nose for it. Part of me respects that. Because I don't think these are bad 23:33.046 --> 23:39.098 games. Like, I was out here playing that stupid Batman driving game, and, this was way better than that. 23:40.002 --> 23:42.012 This is so much better than that one. 23:42.012 --> 23:48.036 Like, you could see what you're doing. The hit boxes on every single one of the little weird monsters in this are complete 23:48.042 --> 23:55.014 nonsense, which is a terrible thing to have in a platforming game. By the way, you kill everything in this game Super Mario 23:55.014 --> 23:57.040 style, which I appreciate it. 23:57.047 --> 24:00.027 You know, unless you're half a pixel off and then you die. 24:00.027 --> 24:04.037 Right. Yeah. You cannot. What were any of those monsters? 24:04.093 --> 24:08.063 What do you want them to be? Because I feel like that's the correct answer. 24:08.077 --> 24:15.082 I mean, I know some of them were definitely the weird ostrich things from Joust. Nothing in this game, like, beyond the fact 24:15.082 --> 24:20.077 that you save members of the Addams family has anything to do with the Addams family. 24:20.077 --> 24:29.009 And yet, what does the Addams family have that makes any sense? So it it's a weird thing where, yeah, it it doesn't really 24:29.009 --> 24:33.004 connect, but it doesn't feel out of place either. 24:33.058 --> 24:42.039 No. They're it's like, oh, this is like yeah. Yeah. Fine. That might be a gremlin on a tricycle. That might be ET from the 24:42.039 --> 24:45.045 Atari game. Those totally live in the Adam's house. Why not? 24:45.061 --> 24:54.016 Getting to go back and watch this movie again and getting to go back and play this game for the first time in a very long 24:54.016 --> 25:04.085 time for me, It just really brought me back to my childhood, and not worrying so much about what the game was doing, like, 25:04.085 --> 25:11.057 what kind of statement it was trying to make, what kind of artistic level it was trying to get to. It was just, hey, here's 25:11.057 --> 25:15.010 a crazy game, and we get to go have fun with it. 25:15.024 --> 25:24.053 And that mini version of the Addams Family thing, they nailed that so freaking well across all the different platforms. It's 25:24.053 --> 25:31.000 like a fun little experience. You should definitely not track it down and pay real money to play it, but the fact that it 25:31.000 --> 25:32.028 exists is pretty cool. 25:32.028 --> 25:40.041 I'm gonna go against you a little bit and say you should maybe not take the special trip to go out and find this one. But 25:40.041 --> 25:46.011 if you're out anyway and you see it, you can spend a reasonable amount of money on it and be fine. 25:46.041 --> 25:49.063 I I would pay up to $7 at a flea market 25:49.072 --> 25:51.050 for this game. That sounds about right. 25:51.064 --> 25:57.034 And I would go so far as to say if they had this one and the sequel, I would pay $10 for them together. 25:57.006 --> 25:59.086 I think that's a little bit much. 26:00.096 --> 26:05.084 Yeah. I am I am basically, in that case, just paying all $10 for the first game. 26:05.084 --> 26:07.042 Well, the first game in a donor 26:07.090 --> 26:15.012 cartridge. Also, you get little Super Mario power ups for Govetz in this game. I totally get why he has the fencing sword. 26:15.052 --> 26:19.094 I don't understand why he throws golf balls or why he has sonic speed shoes. 26:20.048 --> 26:24.005 Well, he does hit golf balls at the neighbors. Yeah. 26:24.085 --> 26:28.087 Yep. That's true. That's true. But he never wears sneakers. 26:29.025 --> 26:31.059 But if he did, you know they'd be fly as hell. 26:32.013 --> 26:34.039 They they would, and he would run real fast. 26:34.076 --> 26:36.014 So they'd definitely be red. 26:36.020 --> 26:41.066 But again, I appreciate that. I appreciate the fact that somebody just would throw it in. It makes sense. It's the atoms. 26:42.002 --> 26:49.054 Normally, this is about the point where I'd ask what this gets right and what it gets wrong, but the comics themselves are 26:49.054 --> 26:59.078 so sparse. The TV shows and the movies all get to pretty much make whatever they want decision wise as long as it doesn't, 26:59.091 --> 27:08.063 like, super directly go against what had been done previous. And it's all just so crazy that it's really hard to say that 27:08.063 --> 27:14.069 something is right or wrong outside of, like, this is a character's name. 27:15.015 --> 27:22.088 I guess it's kind of fair to say that, those are definitely members of the Addams Family. It gets the music, and it's gonna 27:22.088 --> 27:30.084 make you chuckle. So it wins. And I guess that's the best I can say for it. That certainly is one unit of Addams Family Entertainment. 27:31.029 --> 27:39.015 If you knew somebody who wanted to get into the Addams Family, would you give them this game as a bit of a primer course? 27:40.033 --> 27:51.094 No freaking way. Nope. I would however give this game to somebody who really enjoyed licensed games from the 19 nineties, 27:52.022 --> 28:01.010 and said, this is what people made video games of movies with. And if somebody enjoyed the 1991 movie and liked video games, 28:01.010 --> 28:02.088 I would tell them check out Escape. 28:03.018 --> 28:11.019 Yeah. This is the first one in a long time where I would definitely not want to give this to somebody to get them into it, 28:11.035 --> 28:15.037 but I would definitely wanna give this to somebody who was already into it. 28:15.051 --> 28:23.003 There's nothing wrong with it as an Addams Family fan. It's just kind of incomprehensible if you've never played or watched 28:23.003 --> 28:24.052 any of the other stuff. 28:24.066 --> 28:33.086 If you knew somebody who was thinking about getting into the Addams Family, what comic and game would you give them? Not necessarily from the 28:43.012 --> 28:48.088 I actually think everyone should watch wouldn't stay because it was a great show. But if I was gonna give people a comic and 28:48.088 --> 28:57.058 a game because it's in the watch, there are some really great collections of Charles Addams New Yorker cartoons, and I think 28:57.058 --> 29:04.092 that is just kind of the go to, especially the first, like, the collections of the earliest strips are just a really great 29:04.092 --> 29:10.097 way to dial in on the humor very very fast. Although, there's also a collection of them from the seventies where they're all 29:10.097 --> 29:17.075 wearing, like, mod clothes which is bizarre. And, so I'd tell them to, you know, take a look at that. 29:17.075 --> 29:25.022 I honestly don't know what I would give somebody. Like, the Addams Family is just so itself. Honestly, the Bunsters is the 29:25.022 --> 29:29.008 only thing I can think of that's even close, but it's not. 29:30.002 --> 29:33.032 You know, what's got a very similar emotional vibe is Psychonauts. 29:34.000 --> 29:38.010 See, I haven't played that which I know is a problem. Everybody can yell at me in the comments. 29:38.064 --> 29:46.005 Yeah. You should play that, but it's got that very kind of it's just a little weird, like, a little weirder than normal, but 29:46.005 --> 29:53.072 everybody's cool with it within the game that it's so weird. I think if you like that kind of humor, if you like just kind 29:53.072 --> 30:07.015 of the idea of abnormal being normal, You can get into this franchise of stuff really easy. But nobody else really goes after 30:07.015 --> 30:17.008 that in, like, the world of video games. So maybe these really weird licensed games from the nineties are the best video game for it. 30:17.062 --> 30:26.003 Maybe. And I feel like I'm stretching this, but maybe the Cave Johnson parts of Portal. 30:27.029 --> 30:37.067 Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Doing that yeah. Just doing that one chunk of Portal 2 would be a great introduction to that 30:37.067 --> 30:45.041 kind of human illusion. Video games don't do, like, funny terribly well most of the time, And they don't do, like, this kind 30:45.041 --> 30:52.024 of weirdly heartfelt funny. This part of the Adam's family. Because there's, like, there's even stuff in Baldur's Gate 3 that 30:52.024 --> 30:58.094 I think is very Addams Family types of humor, but it's just little chunks of it. Nobody goes as hard as the Addams Family. 30:59.013 --> 31:08.035 Speaking of heartfelt family friendly humor, Adam, it has been great talking to you about your family and everything here. 31:08.062 --> 31:12.064 And if people wanna hear more from you, where else can they find you around the Internet? 31:13.066 --> 31:14.003 They can't. 31:14.003 --> 31:19.074 That better be that they can't yet. I'm still trying to pressure you into making that thing I know you're thinking about. 31:20.060 --> 31:22.070 I've got a bunch of it written. 31:23.000 --> 31:23.050 Good. 31:24.020 --> 31:36.052 I just need time. So, you could find me on the Internet in hopefully by May. 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