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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another unmute. At the top here we've got some announcements and some housekeeping. We wanted to remind everyone we're going to take all first questions first. If we get through everyone and we have time, we'll try and get through second questions. Also, please be respectful and let everyone answer their question and get their question answered in the same way you would want your questions answered. And as we always say, there's no dumb questions. I also want to remind everyone that tonight it's MacBytes with bits in the bits zoom room. So you can check all that information out either in the email community or anywhere you can find information on community as well as the Bits website. And that will be starting at 08:00 eastern time this evening. Also with us, as usual, we have Michael Doyce. Say hello, Michael. Hi, Marty.
Thanks for having me again. And it's cool to be here. I want to let everybody know some of the latest podcasts we've published on the, we've done, we just published the latest iAcast, which is covering Microsoft Loop and how it's a alternative and accessible alternative to notion. So that is really exciting. You might want to check that out. And then I believe we had a Spanish with Carlo last week that was published and we're about to be publishing another one of those very soon. And we have, I believe that's it on our side. So I'm sure there's other podcasts to talk about. So I'll hand it back to you, Marty.
Thanks, Michael. Appreciate it. And the question of the day is, if you travel, what technology can you absolutely not live without? So if you travel, what technology can you absolutely not live without? And also, as always, we got Michael Babcock with us. How you doing, Michael?
I'm doing well, Marty. We'll get to these hands here in a quick moment. After I run through yesterday on technically working. We shared quite a wide variety of topics, but a big conversation we've been having recently is about Damasi's experience with going into the blind license manager program in the state of Alabama. Quick side note on ACB Media Eight. This next couple of days is the Sagebrush conference that is going on in Las Vegas. So if you're interested in listening to that, check out ACB Media eight. And then on Sunday, we had digital bites where we talked about glasses and head worn technology. If you're curious about the difference in the envision glasses and the Celeste glasses specifically, and we talk, of course, more than just the price difference, the physical difference as well, you'll want to listen to that where Marty, Chris and myself sit down and chat about those wearable technologies. There's not going to be games to play with lady a directly after unmute today, but if you want to listen to Lucy's content that she recorded on Thursday, showing you three different games you can play that are specifically word related, then check out the all things lady a Alexa games that was published on Thursday. And that's all I got. Patricia, who is our first hand, and thanks, Patricia and Brad, for helping us.
Out today firsthand is Julie G. Hey, Julie. Hey, guys. So, started watching technically working lately, so I'm really enjoying that. I actually had two questions. One's pretty basic, and then my main question device I can't do without is my braille display, because it's hard to hear voiceover in an airport. So there you go. Braille is important in noisy environments. So the first question is, I doubt you all know this, but is there any app similar to assist eyes wallet? Because it seems nobody can download that anymore. I have it, but it's staying on my phone, right?
Not that I can think, because you.
Were asking about that on the podcast, something to keep information. And I was like, SSI's wallet. Then I was looking for it and it's gone. Yeah, I have it, but you all can't get it now.
Yeah, and unfortunately, that's the case with apps. And potentially, if and when you upgrade your phone, you likely will not be able to get it back. So be aware of that, because if it's not no longer in the App Store, then you'll no longer be able to download it.
Well, what I did last time with my phone was that I had everything transferred over phone to phone and then included that app. So it did work at that time because all the stuff that was in that app transferred with it because that is only on the phone, not in the cloud. So the main question I had was about website building. I'm looking for a accessible website builder for a business and specifically looking for something that will work with Shopify. And I've been doing lots of searches and every time I search for accessible website builder they talk about making your website accessible. But what about the building side?
So two things, you had to throw the works with Shopify on there. So I'm interested to find out, have you experimented with Shopify's web building tools? Because it is my understanding that those are fairly accessible.
Have not.
So that's where I would start if you need that. The other solution that I would encourage you to explore if for some reason that doesn't work, is building a WordPress website and using plugins to connect Shopify and WordPress together if necessary. There are a few out there that are paid that could help facilitate that. Or you could explore looking at a tool like easy digital downloads or woocommerce depending on what you're looking to sell through the website. But in your case, I would start with the Shopify site and see if that site builder is accessible.
So I was told that WordPress went to a drag and drop only. Is that inaccurate?
That is inaccurate. So WordPress has Gutenberg, which is what some people refer to as drag and drop, which really is not the case. WordPress also offers what's called full site editing on their new theme that is not the most accessible or intuitive. I'm fond of a plugin called generatepress. There's several other plugins out, I'm sorry, a theme called generatepress. There's several other themes out there that are not drag and drop. And if you struggle with what's called Gutenberg editor, which is the block editor, you can install a plugin to your WordPress site called classic editor and that will give you a standard. What you see is what you get, rich text editor that you can use keystrokes to manipulate the text and copy and paste into it without having to manipulate blocks.
I'm going to have to email you guys, get all this information. That's really good. Thank you. But I'm going to have to email you to get those notes. Thank you.
No worries. Feel free to reach out with any additional questions. Who do we got next?
Patricia? Eugenia.
Hey Eugenia.
Hi, good morning. I have an issue with my iPhone. I updated to 17.3 and right after that voiceover start acting very funny and it reads every punctuation and symbol on the page and it's very distracting and very terrible. I talked to Apple accessibility. They could not figure it out. I went through all the settings, even in the rotor, you have one that is all complacent or some which is default and I could not fix it. And I don't know if you have heard about that.
There's a couple of things you can try. But going back to the rotor, like you were saying just a second ago, there sounds like it could be like on characters. So I wonder if you were to go into the rotor and change it to either line or paragraph if that would not read every little thing in terms of the punctuation periods, all that stuff, if it would read either line by line or the whole paragraph at once, depending on where you put it.
At the other two things, it doesn't, I'm sorry. No, it doesn't change. And also the volume up or down on the side if I press it, not always. It reads like it says ring mode mute. So it kind of reads what the action button should say. So it's very mixed up the thing. And I don't have an answer yet from Apple. They're supposed to call me back sometime this week.
Well, two things I would suggest to do besides that is I would try restarting your device doing like a hard restart, like shut it off and turn it back on again. You can either go through the settings to do that or you can do it through Siri. But then once you do that, I would also turn off voiceover and let it sit for a second and then turn voiceover back on again and see.
If it changes before.
No, first restart your device.
Okay.
Then when it comes back on, then turn off voiceover and let it sit for a second, then turn it back on again. So restarting your device may reset things if things freaked out in the update or anything like that. And then sometimes turning off voiceover and waiting a second and then turning it back on again will reset voiceover to. If there was any weird things that happened there, I will try those couple of things and see if that gives you any.
Yeah, I will try the voiceover thing, turning off the iPhone. I've done that several times and leave it off for a while.
So, Eugenia, actually, it sounds like Chanel might have something to suggest. Is that who I heard the what? I'm sorry, I thought I heard Chanel chiming in. I also one other thing you can.
Check because we lost you, Michael.
Apple accessibility had you check in the verbosity settings, correct?
Yes.
Okay. So what I have done in this instance when voiceover is acting a little wonky is two things. Number one, I'd make sure you aren't accidentally having screen recognition enabled. So if you haven't yet, see if screen recognition is on your rotor. And if it is, try turning that off. If that continues to read the punctuation to you. At that point, what I would end up doing, and you do this at your own willingness, if you go into your settings and then you go to general, at the bottom of general is the option to backup and reset. If you go into reset, you don't have to erase everything, but what you can do is reset all of the settings on your phone to default and that would reset your voiceover settings. Of course, it'll reset everything, all of your other settings, you won't lose any content, but you can try that and then see if it goes away. But I suspect that screen recognition somehow got enabled and that's why it's waiting. All of that punctuation.
Okay, I will try that first. And if I do that backup and reset, you said?
Yeah, it's under settings, general backup and reset. And then choose the option that just says reset all settings. Don't choose the option that says erase and reset. Just choose reset all settings.
Okay. And then I have to go through all my settings.
Yes. That's why I would not recommend, I mean, maybe wait for Apple before you do that. But that is honestly where I would end up going at this point for troubleshooting. If I check all the other things.
Yeah, I'm very upset because my phone is, I have a 15 pro and it's quite new and I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, well, good luck, Eugenia. Let us know what you end up doing.
All right, I will. Thank you. Thank you for your help. I'm going to try that right after this.
Who do we got next?
Patricia Kirsten. Go ahead. Good afternoon, everyone.
Hello. How are you?
I'm well, thank you. I wanted to answer the question first, which was, when traveling, what devices device could I not live without? That would definitely be my iPhone, of course, and also my or cam, my eye. Those two are necessary.
Awesome. Well, thanks for letting us know. That's awesome.
Yeah. And also, I did have a question, a really quick question. As far as with the iPhone, I know that there are quicker ways to turn voiceover on and off. And I wanted to know if someone could quickly explain to me how I could set it up to where I could just double tap on the back of my phone.
You would have to go into the settings. I'd have to look it up and see exactly where the double tap is. But if you're looking for something that's even easier than that, that you don't even need to set up, it'll already be set up for you, is you can just invoke Siri and say, turn off voiceover and invoke Siri again and say turn on voiceover. And there you go.
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Yep.
Hey, next we have sharon. Go ahead. Hi, everyone. Hello.
How are you?
Hi. Actually, this is a tip that I got last night from the community Facebook page for ACB. And it has to do with Facebook and this weird noise that is happening when you swipe, it's like a kind of sound, like a whistling noise. And apparently it's Facebook updating the page. And they said that you can turn it off by going into menu and then settings and then media and then in app sounds and you turn off that sound and it disappears. So I just wanted to pass it on because I know it's been annoying me and I'm assuming it's annoying other people, too.
Thanks for the tip.
Okay. Thank you.
Even though that was an issue, I guess that's the problem when I don't use Facebook, so thank you for that. I don't use Facebook either, so I.
Wouldn'T have never even known that.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Who do we got next?
We have Juliana.
Hey, Juliana.
Hello, everybody. Can you hear me?
Yep, we can hear you.
Oh, good. All right, first I'll tell you something good. You've heard that. Tell me something good. Okay. I was able to get Microsoft edge off, stop it from interfering with everything. It was actually just outlook, so I had to get some help because I was doing the right thing, but somebody had to come in and help me with just, it was only outlook. It was not everything. It did interfere with Zoom, but that's because, I guess it was because I entered a link on an. So, you know, that was where I was getting some strange things on Zoom. And question for Marty. How would the lady turn off voiceover? Would she press the side key three times to turn it off or would she literally turn off voiceover some other way? This lady that was talking about all the problems she was having with punctuation.
Yeah. Could you it a couple of ways? The easiest way for most people is to invoke Siri and ask Siri to turn off voiceover and then wait a second. And then invoke Siri again and turn voiceover on and it will turn it back on. Now, depending on your device, you can do that a couple of different ways. On the devices that do not have a home button, you can use the side button, which is the same as the lock screen button. If you do have a home button down in the bottom in the center, you could hold that down and that would invoke Siri. So that's how you.
Okay. I didn't know whether she literally would have to go in and literally turn voiceover off forever. I mean, until she turned it, which I don't know how. I always thought you had to get sighted help with that kind of thing.
Well, with Siri you wouldn't need to. Sometimes turning off voiceover and turning it back on kind of resets it. If it freaks out kind of a thing. That's one thing. You could also go through the menus and turn off voiceover and turn it back on, but you would have to have voiceover on. And then when you get all the way into the menus and you turned voiceover off, you'd have to really know where to put your finger in order to turn it back on again. Otherwise you would not have any audio because you had turned voiceover off. So that's why I tell people to use the Siri, because Siri will talk even if voiceover is on or off.
Yeah. Okay, thanks a bunch.
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I have a question about Airpods. Okay, first of all, my answer to your question, the tech that I cannot live without, definitely my iPhone, which is a 13 mini, my braille sense six mini from hymns and I just got from a company, I think it's called Zag Z-A-G-G-A travel charger that is really small, it folds in thirds. It does have to be plugged into a brick into the wall, but then you unfold it and you can charge your phone, your Airpods and your watch all at the same time, magnetically. It's Magsafe.
Is this like one of the anchors? Magsafe goes one of the. I've heard a lot about them. I heard they're really great.
It was wonderful. I got it when it was 30% off, so I felt really good about that. Awesome. The Airpod question I have, I have AirPods Pro two, which I got this last summer just before they came out with the USBC. So they're new, but the battery in the Airpods, the left one and the right one are not dying at the same time. The left Airpod often will die well before the right one or vice versa. And they don't seem to. Well, they're not the same charge level. When I check them with the phone, it'll say, left Airpod 50%, right Airpod 90%, Airpod case 70%. And I don't understand why the AirPods would, why the battery in one airpod would discharge faster than the other. Is there something wrong with the charging case? Maybe?
It would be really hard to answer that. I mean, it could be that the battery could be weak in one of your AirPods, or maybe the charging case inside isn't charging one as much as the other. I do know a lot of people use them one at a time, not both at the same time. So, like, for me, a lot of times I'll only stick one Airpod in if I'm using it just for a phone call or something like that. So one would be less than the other one. But if that's not the issue for you, and you're continuously having an issue where nothing's charging up equally, all the same thing. Like, if you put both AirPods into the case, plug the case in, and leave it overnight, and in the morning, they're not all charged equally. I would probably contact Apple, because if you got them, first of all, less than a year ago, they would still have warranty, and they could check them out. And if there's an issue, they could send you new ones. And if also you have apple care, then of course you'll be covered for even longer than the standard. But I would definitely plug them into the case, put them both in the case, and plug them in overnight. And in the morning, when you wake up, check them, and if they're all different, then I would call Apple and say, hey, this is what's happening with my AirPods. They'll give you some diagnostic tools to check with them, and then they'll probably either, say, go into a store or you can mail them in and they will look at them or replace them or do what they have to do to get you back on track.
Another thing you may want to look at is sometimes where they connect. There's a little metal piece on the Airpods at the very bottom. I believe you may want to just check and make sure both are like, take a cloth and just wipe them off, make sure the contacts and magnets are clear. That way it can have a good current going between the charger and that. But like Marty said, I think it's good to just let them charge overnight and check it in the know, make sure to wipe off the Airpods so they make a know connection to the charger. But then, like Marty said, if they don't, then I would probably call Apple as other.
The other interesting thing. Excuse me. Which I kind of like, when I plug them in, they make a nice little ding sound.
Yeah, that's new in the AirPod pro two also sometimes.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I just said that's a new thing in the AirPod Pro two s, only because in the new AirPod Pro two s, they added speakers into the case. So that's how you get an auditory signal when you plug them in. None of the other AirPods have that.
Yes, that's true. The other thing is, though, sometimes when I put the AirPods back in the case, sometimes I get that ding.
Also, I never paid that much attention.
Okay. I kind of like to hear that little ding. I like it.
Yeah, definitely.
Anyway, well, thank you very much. I really love your show.
Well, thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Next we have Pam coffee.
Pam coffee.
Hello. I hope I'm coming through because number one, I'm outside. It's a gorgeous day. Number two, my Internet is acting weird today, but to answer the question of the day, the device that you could not pay me to travel without is definitely my iPhone. I do practically everything on my iPhone. I don't have a braille display. I don't have a lot of this other stuff. It's definitely my iPhone. Cool.
Well, thanks, Pam.
Hey, Nick and I would like to put in because someone mentioned it briefly last week, the basic iPhone class on ACB community. It is the first and third Saturdays at 06:00 p.m.. Eastern. Great. Thanks, Pam. And normally I co facilitate that, but the next couple of times I'll be flying solo. So anyway, that's the scoop on that.
All right, well, thanks, Pam.
Thank you. Next we have Gregory. Go ahead.
Hey, Gregory, how are you doing?
Alta mute. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can hear you. Okay.
I have a 14 pro, and I recently updated to 17.3.1. And I noticed my settings page has changed. Like, for instance, on the top it would say my name, but now it says my first two initials and then my name. And then when I swipe right down to the airplay, it says flight and then airplay, and then it says right arrow. Have you heard of this?
I have not.
So it sounds to me like you also have screen recognition enabled. So what I would do is change your rotor. The only reason I say that is because I think it's recognizing the right arrow that you can tap on on the screen, which visually is there but voiceover typically doesn't see. So where I would start is by using your rotor and switching to find screen recognition and flick down once and see if it says then screen recognition off and then go look at your settings and see if it shows your name because I just checked on my iPhone and it shows my name at the top. And then when I flick to the right from my name it says family and then airplane mode.
Okay, this is interesting. You asked a question about my favorite device. I'm hoping my favorite device very soon will be my Celeste glasses. And in the app, the Celeste app, it has a voice recognition button. I'm not sure what it's for. That may be part of it.
So in the Celeste glasses, one of the more recent updates that they pushed to those glasses is the voice assistant feature. So what you can now do in Celeste is say, hey, Ella, describe this to me. Or hey, Ella, find the grocery items on my desk. That's what that voice button is for.
The big issue with the cellus right now and they're working on is hotspot connects. But that's going to be my favorite device when I get it fixed because my hotspot did work very well a couple of weeks ago outside the house and it's amazing when they get the glasses fixed.
It's going to be really great.
So I'm sticking. That's going to be my favorite device, but my iPhone is the favorite one right now.
There we go. Well, thanks a lot for that feedback.
Yep. Thank you. Next we have Lynn Moore.
Hi there, Lyn. How you doing?
Hi, everybody. Hello.
Hello.
So my favorite device, I'd say, is probably my iPhone, although I went without my Mac for a week last summer and it was kind of miserable because I had to travel and I didn't take it. But my iPhone and my Mac, both of them, I'd say my iPhone probably. So I was going to tell the person that had the airpods that the other sound that you hear when you're putting them back in the case that the battery is low, you have a lower battery time in the case itself. Yes.
Got you. So that sound is that it could be telling you that your case for your Airpods battery is low and you should charge that.
So I have gone on with the case several times on that. You don't have to certainly charge it right away. But it does say that it's lower then. Beautiful.
Well, thank you for that.
And I wonder if I could ask you a couple of very quick questions. Sure, go ahead. I have the 15 Pro now. No. Yeah, I have the 15 Pro. Do you know what I have? And I wonder if you could tell me, is there any way at all to alphabetize my apps on my home screen anymore? Because it seems like they've taken that away, or do you have to just move them?
As far as I know, you have to move them around.
No.
If you go to settings, general reset, backup, and reset, and then go down, there's an option to reset home screen. And if you tap on that, then that will reset your apps to alphabetical order that you have installed. Note that that will not put the default apps that come on the iPhone into alphabetical order. But anything else that you've installed will start with the letter a on page two, about halfway down the screen in the middle, and then it'll go a to z. So again, that's settings, general backup, and reset. Reset home screen layout.
Okay? Yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. And then one more quick question, if I might. So I noticed that on my apps, I'll have weather on page two, say, and then weather on page one, and then weather on page two. And it's the same like I see with the calendars in two places. Why is that happening? Do you know?
You have widgets and a calendar widget?
So can I turn the widgets off then?
Yeah, you can remove them.
Yes.
Flick down on the one on page one, and that's probably where your widget is. Because by default, weather is on page two, I believe. But if you flick down on one of them, and there will be an option that says delete or edit, and then you double tap on that, and then you flick down again until you hear it say activate. And you double tap on that, and it will ask you if you'd like to remove it from your home screen.
Oh, okay. All right. Because I only need one instance of weather, calendar, whatever. Okay.
The way to tell the difference, because actually it used to be that weather would tell you your condition on the widget. Yeah, because I have a weather widget, and when I tap on it, it gives me all the information. So right now it says weather. Gives me the city, 49 degrees, partly cloudy, and then tells me what the low and high is. If I go to page two and I locate the weather application, and I can't find it right now, it doesn't say anything though, it just says weather double tap to open. So that's the actual application. If you hear the whole forecast, then that's what you might want to delete off of your home screen. Or you can just take weather off of your home screen and just hear the forecast, whichever one you prefer to have.
Okay. All right. Thank you so much. You've been so helpful.
Yeah, no problem. It looks like. Brad, you too. Thank you very much.
Okay, next we have Chanel. Go ahead.
We have Brad, I think, and he has.
Oh, Brad, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Brad.
Okay, we have Jane has joined us on stage here in Clubhouse.
Hey, Jane, just a quick update. Okay, so NVDA is fixed within, I think I fixed it within the hour. I had to reinstall it yet again. But now I'm trying to figure out. So I will purchase Microsoft office soon. But for now I'm looking at free office alternatives. I don't know what free office, I mean, I tried Microsoft stuff online and I did not like that at all because I'm used to having my stuff locally and I will get office soon, but right now I got to finish up a project and I need to figure out what free solutions.
First of all, the first free solution I would recommend to you is Google's workspace. If you hit Ctrl Alt Z followed by control Alt H. This should both enable accessibility and Braille modes in Google Docs and then turn your browse mode off with NVDA key plus space. And that would be probably the most convenient free solution to Microsoft Office products. I don't have any direct experience with it, but there is LibreOffice and open office that are also available as applications you can install to your computer versus using Google Docs.
Yeah, no, I'm very familiar with Google suite products and I probably should use to, I don't know if I could do this locally, but what if I need to then, so I would have to put stuff in the cloud per se and I print from it and.
Then bring, you can print from Google Docs, there is print support. And actually what you can do versus having to put something in the cloud is if you have Google Docs open and you do the alt slash keystroke to bring up the search file or search menus option, you can type in open and then an option will be open file and if you do that, then you can pick a local file and open that word document in Google Docs and it will upload it.
Okay, but then I can't save it locally though, then, right. If I create my stuff online.
So in that instance, no, you would not save over the document you have, but you can export the Google Doc that you're working to as a. I think word is an export option.
And if you are looking for something local, like something on your computer, I would go with what Michael said. Check out either open office or libreoffice. They're both pretty decent. For a free solution, I would check them both out. They both have the full suite of products, like an excel type of thing, a word processor and a presentation app.
And don't forget, because I know you have access to a Mac, you also have access to pages as well. And that could also help you, too.
There you go.
I always forget that.
Yeah, there you go. And that should be on your computer. It's free with every Mac. So you've got pages already locally on your Mac.
Okay.
All right. Who do we got next?
Patricia. Next we have Chanel.
Hello, Chanel.
Hello. Hey, Chanel.
Well, I was just going to answer your question. Oh, well, I did actually think of. So you're unmute. And I do miss Lucy's show, so I might go listen. Is that all on the unmute feed or is it a separate podcast for her?
Nope, it's on the unmute feed. It was the episode published on Thursday, and it's always published to the unmute feed on the second Thursday of the month.
Okie dokie. Awesome. And to answer your question, well, I would say combination of braille display and. I take my braille display out even just for a local, because I don't know when I'll have a minute where I'm waiting and I can just sit and read. But I forgot when I was going on my big trip over the holidays, I forgot my USB hub at home that I need to connect, like, USBA devices to my Mac. Fortunately, my father in law had a spare one. But, yeah, I forgot my USB hub on my trip.
So which braille display do you use?
I use the brilliant.
Okay.
I'd love to have a 40 mantis for working with the. I love my brilliant 20 because I just read everything directly on there. Lots of bookshare stuff and whatever.
So I love my brilliant.
Beautiful. Well, thanks for sharing. I appreciate that.
Thank you. Next we have Joanne.
Hello, Joanne.
Hi, guys. How are you? Good.
How are you?
Good. To answer the question of the day, I wouldn't leave without my iPhone, probably, or my Apple Watch, but especially my iPhone. And I wanted to thank Sharon for that tip on the Facebook noise because I was on last night and I heard it and I was like, what is that? It's driving me. Can I. Glad I can turn that off. About the voiceover thing. Go ahead. I was just going to say about the voiceover thing, I have my accessibility shortcut set to voiceover, so I can use Siri or I can just hit the side button three times to turn it off and on.
Beautiful. So that's the flexibility of having that accessibility shortcut. You just triple click that side button or a home button if applicable, on your phone or you can use voiceover. So thanks for sharing that.
Thank you. Next we have Bernard. Hi, Bernard.
You are muted, I believe.
Yep.
No, he's still muted. Bernard is still muted. The only other hand we have at the moment is someone who has already spoken. So I don't know what you want to do.
We'll see if he can get unmuted while we're talking to jewel.
Yep, go ahead, jewel.
I just had a quick answer for the person who's asking about the back tap.
Thank you.
And also, of course you can do the triple tap on the side button for the accessibility shortcut. So if you have voiceover set up as your accessibility shortcut, then you go into settings accessibility touch, back tap and you can choose double tap or triple tap. And the first option is the accessibility shortcut. I just thought I'd add that.
Beautiful. Thank you for those directions.
We appreciate it.
All right, who do we got next there, Patricia?
We're going to go with Myrna. Hope I'm pronouncing that right. Hey, Myrna. Yes. Hey, Michael.
So here's a question for you. It's not a technical even. What is the name of the podcast on Sundays? It's probably the only one I haven't been subscribed to and I need to do that and maybe other people need to know again.
So what is the name of it?
So it's in the unmute feed so you don't have to subscribe to something different to get the Sunday show. And internally, and it's appeared as the show title as well. We're calling it digital bytes. Marty, you want to explain to Myrna about digital bytes?
Sure.
What we're doing on there is we're kind of talking all things mobile. So phones, tablets, earbuds, apps that maybe we've tried out and we're letting people know, hey, this is a cool app. Try this out, whether it worked well or not. So that kind of stuff. And usually it's on the average about, I would say 30 ish minutes. So 20 to 30 ish minutes.
Good.
But it's part of the unmute, so if you subscribe to the unmute, you're going to see it anyway, is what you're saying?
Yes. When you subscribe to the unmute feed, you will get this. After we go off the air, we edit it down and put this out. So if you missed anything on here or want to hear it again, you'll get this. You'll get all of the different Thursday shows we put out throughout the month. One on every Thursday, all different topics. And then the Sunday digital bytes show.
Cool.
And as far as traveling, of course, the iPhone and of course, my Apple watch. And then probably one of the. Probably a braille sense because it's light, it will mean if I could carry a PC or a Mac, I'd probably say that. But for kind of ease of carrying, I'd probably take either the braille sense or the braille sense mini with me and I'd be able to do everything.
Cool.
That sounds good.
Okay. That's it. All right. Well, thank you very much.
This is Bernie. I'm unmuted now.
Go ahead.
I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. I'm like an old. I'm sorry. So I got. I just found out about you guys today, and this is awesome. I got two quick questions. I've been using the iPhone forever. And, yeah, it's my go to device, and I don't even think I ever put it down during a day. I could really use help. How do I copy and paste on the iPhone? That's my first quick question.
So it depends on where you are, but there's two ways to do it. Let's say you're in a web browser and you want to copy or share it with someone. You would have the page open, for example. And then you would go down to the share sheet and you would click that. And then you would scroll down and you'll see a button that says copy. And you do a single. Do you use voiceover? I do. So you would scroll down, and then when you see copy, you would do a single finger double tap, and it will copy it to your clipboard. And then you can go somewhere else and paste it or send it to a friend or do whatever you want to do with it. Another way would be to do it is you could use the rotor. And the way you would do that is, let's say you are in a text document and you wanted to copy the text, you would invoke the rotor, and in the rotor, you would go to edit. And then once you get into edit, then you could flick up or down and it will say select all and then you copy, or you can just copy any number of ways. So all of your editing tools, copy, paste, all that stuff would be in the rotor in the edit section.
Okay. I'm not too good on that rotor thing.
Okay.
The other thing I have a quick question on is, let's say I come across an email address and I don't know how it's spelled. How can I go back to it and spell it letter by letter? You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I think you would have to, again, go into the rotor and change it to character and then flick up or down. It would reach you each letter individually.
So how do I go into the rotor and do that? Can you explain that?
Yeah, the rotor would be, you put your index finger and your thumb on the screen at the same time. And then you would turn like you're turning a knob on your oven. You would turn either to the left or right and you'll hear go through the different things that you have in your rotor. Depending on what you have on your rotor, sometimes there's a lot of things on there that maybe you don't need. If that's the case, you can always go into the rotor settings and either add something you really want on there or remove things that you don't think you would ever need. For example, a lot of people will remove Siri volume, or I mean the voiceover volume, not the Siri volume, because sometimes they hit it accidentally and then it turns their voiceover really loud and they don't know how to get it back down again because they don't realize they did it in the rotor. Or sometimes the speed of your voiceover is in the rotor and people accidentally land on that and then they accidentally flick up or down and their voiceover all of a sudden is going really slow or really fast. So a lot of people set it to what they like in terms of speed and volume and then remove those things off the rotor so it doesn't get changed again. If you have a hard time with the index finger and the thumb and trying to turn it, you can always go into the rotor settings and you can change how you invoke the rotor. So, for example, what I did on mine was I changed it to a two finger swipe to the right or left, and that invokes the rotor that way instead of having to do a single the finger and the thumb and try and turn as a knob, a lot of people have a hard time with that. It's a little bit of tweaking in the settings in the rotor section, but you can change those things to something that would be easier for you if you want to.
Well, that's very helpful. What's your name?
Marty.
Okay, Marty. Well, thank you, both of you guys. This is wonderful. And are you on like just once a week or twice a week or what?
We're on here once a week here on Tuesdays. And then if you listen to podcasts, we put out other shows, both in the unmute feed, which is unmute presents in any podcatcher, and you'll see the stuff we put out on Thursdays and on Sunday. And then you can also check out iAcast. And we put out stuff there as well with Michael Deutsche, who's also here, and he's got a live radio station that you can listen to. And Michael, you want to chime in on an IAcast for a sec and talk about the radio and anything else? Let them know how you can access that stuff.
Yeah.
So the Iacast is also a weekly podcast that we do. We just published our episode of the week today, and we have an app called the iaccessibility app, where you can get all of this content for iOS. And there is a radio station. You can use the app to listen to the radio station. You could also go to iacast. Net listen. And we keep up with the latest content of the week on that station. So it's always repeating. So if you need to go back and listen, you'll be able to get that content. And we're always uploading new stuff and looking for feedback. So we have radio station podcasts, the app, and we also have discord if folks are interested in that. I can talk about that some other time.
And what's the app called?
I. Accessibility.
IA accessibility.
The letter I and then the word accessibility.
The letter I and then accessibility.
Correct.
Okay, one more question. On that app, do you talk about jaws at all?
Well, it has all of our content from our other shows, so.
Okay, got you.
If you go back and see anything about Jaws in the previous archives of the shows, then we do have information there.
Okay, wonderful. Thanks so much.
And one other thing about jaws. Are you looking for jaws information or learning jaws?
Yes, I'm learning jaws right now.
We're going to be doing a four week introduction to jaws. It's going to be in about five weeks from now. That's going to be the next thing we do in club Unmute so you can check out our website for more information. It's not there yet, but it will be. Keep checking back in the next couple of weeks. It'll be on there. But that's unmute show for the website. And if you have any other questions or anything, you can always email us at feedback at Unmute show.
Okay, so that's going to be on this community resource thing, too?
No, that's going to be in a separate place. We'll have all the information for you on the website. So just keep checking back for unmute show and we'll have all that information up there. I'd say probably in the next couple of weeks. It'll be happening probably in about eight ish weeks or so.
All right, wonderful.
Thank you.
Yes. Take care. Take care.
Thank you. We have a phone number. Are you called 413329?
Hi, Patricia. My name is Laurie. I was on the podcast a week or two ago.
Okay.
Hello. How are you?
I'm good. Mike and Marty, how are you doing?
We're doing good.
Thank you for your question of the day. Well, excuse me. When I first had a flip phone, I could not leave my home without it. And then I went to a feature phone. I did not leave home without that. And now I don't leave without my iPhone. I can't leave home without my iPhone. That was for your question of the day. And then thank you for the voiceover instructions on what to do as far as resetting voiceover because I've tried your tips and tricks on trying to keep my alarm from telling the time every time, every minute.
Because it would start talking every minute, right? Basically, yeah.
Right. And that's what I called about last time somebody suggested switching your widgets around. And so until I do that, I'm going to probably have to reset voiceover because unfortunately it might reset other functions, and that's what I'm afraid of.
Well, did you try moving the clock icon to somewhere else so that your voiceover cursor won't continue landing on it?
No, I haven't tried that yet, but one day I will. So I don't know when that one day will be, but when I get the courage to do that because I'm afraid of dropping it in the wrong spot. When I had a computer long ago and I dragged things clicked and dragged with a mouse, that was easy. But back then I had sight, partial sight, but now I don't have that and my manual dexterity is not exactly the greatest, so I'm afraid to do it. So I had a sighted person do it for me one day. And when I see him next month, I'll have to ask him to put something else there, like maybe my mail.
One thing to keep in mind is if you reset your home screen as discussed earlier, it will not affect your lock screen widgets, I don't think.
Oh, that's good.
That's good to know. And also I have a home button on my iPhone. I have an SE 2020, which is going on four years old now. And when I first learned voiceover gestures, I was able to use the home button for that to triple tap on voiceover home button. But I didn't know that you could also do it on the power button on the side. That's interesting.
Yeah, I think that's only though if you have one of the newer phones that do not have the home button anymore.
Okay. Yeah, no, my phone does have a home button, so it probably would not because when I press the power button once, it doesn't necessarily turn the phone off.
It just locks totally.
But it locks the screen because I hear an and then it asks for my passcode. If I lift and raise to so. But that's another thing I have a question about is my phone. When I first got my iPhone and it was brand new, I did not set a passcode like Apple wanted me to and they actually told me it was required. But for the longest time, I did not use a passcode until I read on YouTube that someone's iPhone got stolen. This lady went to a bar and she had her iPhone stolen right out of her hand. And that scared me.
There's a couple of things there. I mean, it's not exactly mandatory to have a passcode on your phone, but a couple of things. One is like if someone steals your phone or you lose your phone or something like that, then your information is going to just be all there for them to just go into your phone and do whatever. So you don't have any protection there if you don't have Passcode and you were to lose your phone or it were to get stolen. But what is mandatory is, for example, if you use the apple wallet and you have any kind of cards in there, an Apple card or a debit card or any other things in there, you cannot utilize the apple wallet without having a passcode. It won't let you use it without the passcode because that's just too much vulnerability. So if you plan on ever using the wallet, you would have to have the passcode at least. And usually they want either a face id, a fingerprint and a password. So if one fails, you have another option to get into there.
Right.
If you used your finger instead of using a passcode as your primary way to get in, then all you would have to do is put your finger on the round button in the center at the bottom, which is the home button. And then you would have to do the password and you would still have security. So you do have some options. It just depends on what's the easiest thing for you.
Yeah, I tried doing the fingerprint and my phone will not take it. So I finally ended up using a passcode. Now it's become second nature to me to do that.
Yeah. And if you really hate the password that much, then you could turn it off if you want.
Oh, no, now I don't. But in the beginning I did. In the beginning, when I first started doing it, I was like, darn it, I have to do this again. But now I love it. Now it's like leaving my apartment without locking my door. I have to lock my door before I leave so that way nobody will get in without my permission. Kind of like anybody would not leave their home without setting an alarm or locking their key or whatever. Locking their door or whatever. So now I feel safer. But that story on YouTube scared me. I was like, oh, well, we are.
Just about out of time here, so.
It looks like we got.
Okay, well, thanks for your help, guys. I appreciate it.
Yep, no problem.
Thank you. Three minutes.
So let's take circuit real quick and then we will wrap it up.
This is real quick. I just wanted to answer that question. I use my iPhone. I never leave it at home. I take it everywhere with me and iPhone SE 2020. And now I'm learning to use my brill note taker handytech Actalino with this phone, and I'm really enjoying it to learn how to play with it. Well, great.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome. Thank you very much, father.
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