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Holy shit. Robbie, do you have a master's degree in being a dumbass?
Oh, yeah.
It's a podcast. Welcome to the Aquarium podcast. I don't think that much copywritten, but I'm your host, Rob Zolzan.
I'm literally confused why you're doing that. I'm Jim Colby, and I met him.
On the shop, and I know what he's trying to do, but he failed at it because he's white.
Hey, I kept in pace.
White trash.
I did it best.
You're white trash.
Well, today, before we get into a little bit of our, you know, weekly news that we try to share a little bit of our life, I'd like to introduce our guest. We have Kate Milburn here on the podcast to talk a little bit about our topic today, cannabis in the aquarium. Kate, thank you for coming on the podcast.
Of course, of course. Thank you for having me.
Now, Kate, I'm just going to give a slight background before we get into our little off topic rants here. Kate, just so people don't understand, you are a cultivation specialist in management at a large farm in the United States. Medical marijuana farm in the United States, and also happen to be a fish expert of your own and are here to help us through our use of cannabis in the aquarium.
Yep, that's the purpose.
All right, we're. We're gonna have a million questions, but more importantly, Jimmy's high. As right now.
I am not. Are we gonna talk about stone fish tonight?
Yes, Jimmy. Yes.
I'm just glad that you ate edibles for the cause, so thank you, Jimmy.
I not only ate edibles for the cause, I shoved one up my butt.
Jimmy, I had this fine jar of the grossest ditch weed that I found from some terrible dealer in Perham, oregano. Well, now that weed's legal in Minnesota, I figured I'd bring it to the cause. So my gift to you.
No, no, no. I smelt that earlier.
Worse than resweed.
It smelled like. It smelled like dill pickles.
I think they call it dog shit weed. So that is the strain of it you enjoy.
Yeah, I can't wait to get ahold of that. And maybe I'll throw it out in my yard this summer to get rid of the mosquitoes.
I will be sure to put pictures on the aquarium guys podcast. Discord. So check that out. The link's in the description. Come join the community. Now, gentlemen, I have a little bit of news, and you can share yours in a moment. But I want to go first this time. I was tickled pink was searching on Facebook marketplace because that's what we do in northern Minnesota for our free time. And I found the mythical unicorn that I thought I would never find again. Walmart Mars units, your favorite. Jimmy.
I saw the pictures and I giggled the whole time. Dumbasses.
Okay, so your favorite Walmart Mars units. For those that are listening, you probably listen to some very old podcasts from the original podcast we've done talking about these particular units. So if you remember back in time, what was it the last time they had them? 2015. Yeah.
They've been out of it for quite.
A while already, so it's been a long time that they. That they've been out of the game. Walmart used to have these fantastic little units where they sold aquarium fish. Out of that, not a single Walmart would ever really take care of because they didn't have any train specialists. The people that dropped fish off would literally just drop the bags, not care, let them die, and keep bringing them stock. So these units weren't really well maintained, and when they broke, they would have a service technician come out, and then there was no fish specialist maintaining the aquariums. So when this whole program nationwide got cut, what were they to do with all of these units? It was up to the local Walmarts to figure it out. Some donated, some sold them, and they.
Our local Walmart, threw them in a dumpster.
Some put them in the dumpster.
Yep.
They watched them do it. Yeah, they did not. Did not know. So a lot of them don't exist. Some of them got lucky. These particular two units, two of them, Jimmy, that I found on Facebook marketplace, were donated to a local christian camp in rural Minnesota.
Why do people hate God? Why would you do that?
Why would you give that to these.
Beautiful children of the corn, this church? Why would you do that? I hate these things so much.
So you hate them. But for me, it's nostalgia. Like, I grew up with that. Besides you being my saving grace of giving me fish, that was the only.
Other outlet to see fish at Walmart.
At Walmart.
But I mean, if you want to talk about nostalgia, my brother used to give me noogies. I can give you a noogie right now, and you can take it way back.
I mean, without. Think about it. Without Jimmy stocking the Benjamin Franklin five and dine store years and years, Walmart was my only hope to have fish growing up. That was it. So, for me, it's nostalgic. But I get it because I learned my valuable lesson purchasing these.
So the funny thing was, is that I saw, I asked you, I put you in a trap, and I caught you.
Did you now?
I did. I said, how much did you pay? And you told me. And I went, oh, they didn't pay you to take them away? No, no. I'd have made them pay me to take it away.
Oh, no. They listed these online for sale, for sale imessage. And so did a bunch of other local fish enthusiasts. And of course, I recognize a bunch of names because it is a small community in my area. So I was the first one there. Cause of course, I messaged them late at night saying, I'll be there in the morning, first thing with the truck and trailer. So I sure shit got there.
And eight guys in a bobcat.
No, no, no. They said that they. Cause again, it's a christian camp. And let me tell you, this place is a wealthy Christian. So they had their own bobcat, they had their own Zamboni and hockey rink. Like indoor hockey rink.
And once again, they did not pay you to take this thing away.
They did not pay me to take this thing away.
You're a sucker.
I am a sucker. So I get there and we haggle back and forth. I get the pear. The pear for seven bones, right?
Which is ten bones too much. They should have paid you dollar 300 to take it away.
Now, is it gonna be worth more later? Yes. Cause I'm gonna have to put new pumps, new connectors, plumbing. I'm gonna have to rebuild these things.
And uv sterilizers.
Sterilizer. I could go on a rant.
Yeah, you can go on a rant. You both hate these units. Now I'm sitting there and they have, you know, twelve kids, you know, when I say kids, like, you know, close to 1816 year old teenagers sitting there, and we're all trying to heave hoe this thing out. And there's no lifting these things. You can't. You can't grab them.
Really? There's no handles on them?
There's no handles.
The people that designed this didn't put any handles on there.
None. None. None whatsoever.
They use lead based tanks. Cause I swear to God, the frickin tanks are like slate.
Oh. Someone said only seven bones. I only know one. 7700 bones. Yeah.
$700 they paid for these two things.
700 bones.
And I said they wrote $700 for two. For two. Yeah, and I said they should have paid you 300 to take them away. Here's $300.
To take it away. I don't know if you know, Matt, that's 350 bones per.
Or you're still $1,000 short. Cause they should have paid you $300 to take it away.
Anyways, moving on, moving on. We try to move these things, and we all try to heave ho and we give up. What finally get them to bring out their, you know, kubota skid steer. And then the skid steer is having problems balancing out because of the steel frame. We get it on the trailer. We're having problems getting, you know, because we're. We're buckling out the trailer, getting these things on. And I'm thinking, originally when I bought these things, like, I wonder if there's any way to take these apart so I could put them in my basement so I could own them.
No, not a chance.
There's no way I can fit them in my basement. Especially because it took, you know, twelve people to lift it and they couldn't lift it. And it's here to get it.
So with a metal frame, you could never get the metal frame down.
Steel frame.
Oh, it's steel. I'm pretty sure it's. It's. It's granite.
Granite that they use. Yeah, granite frame. So then we brought it to our favorite place, Dee's fish company.
Right?
And these.
Practical joke. As a practical joke, right?
So that was Dee's fish go's money. And now, not a practical joke. They were tickled pink. So we. I called up a bunch of these fish company fanboys and the community, and we all collectively got there, back the trailer up to the front of the store, and spent the next hour losing our testicles. Heave, hoeing those into the store.
Thank you for not calling me.
You're welcome.
Because I would not have come.
I know you wouldn't. You were the last person, in fact, on my list to call for this.
So myself and our friend Ty, we hauled three of these. The two of us hauled three. And we had hydraulic jacks, and we had them up on these metal wheelie dealy things and stuff. And when we put them down and filled up full of water, the four little pegs that are the size of a 50 cent piece all punch through the floor.
Well, that was the beauty. One of them, the little pegs broke right off. And then we could Jamaican Bob sled it down the hill.
Yeah, that's best.
It was a lot of fun. So, regardless, we got them in the store, we're getting them set up, and they're actually working so far, quite nicely, as long as we're replacing some of the pieces. The way that they set them up is relatively inefficient because they wanted to have two separate units right next to each other. They want to have a cold and hot unit, but yet they are touching with no insulation. So you're going to be heating one side while cooling the other. It's going to just drive your electric bill up the wall. It's like literally throwing money at a unit. Makes no sense to me. So as long as you're either heating the whole thing or cooling the whole thing, you're fine. But they are a nightmare from that one reason that the one bottom rack was supposed to be goldfish with chiller, and then the two top racks were supposed to be heat. But then you open the canopy below and find out, oh, they're connected.
Right. And these units are beautiful. I've seen a lot of them set up very nicely in people's garages or whatever, but here, I just want to give you one bit of advice, other than don't buy them, leave them there. Most people buy them, use them for a little bit, and then they put them in the garage. And here in the Northland, they don't drain the pumps. And what happens is, if there's water in the lines, the pumps freeze and it destroys the pumps.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
And so, I mean, when you're buying things, don't assume that everything's gonna work is a good chance they're not gonna work because it's been frozen a couple times.
So the story of these things, right, these were kept, as far as we can find out, with the records and what was written on them in the notebooks. These must have come from the brainerd Baxter Walmarts and donated directly to the camp and stored in their heated gymnasium. And never moved since. And never used since.
You know what you could use them for is a storm shelter. Cause if a tornado comes, you could all crawl underneath a bitch and never die, because these things are amazingly.
Well, that's what they're doing in twister two. They're gonna take their belt loop and attach it to the side and hold on for their life.
You're not gonna go anywhere for sure.
So come check it out. Dee's fish company. It was a lot of fun. I'm still missing my testicles, so if you find them on the floor, contact me.
I'm just gonna kick it out the door for sure.
Next thing is, I don't know why it hurts my brain, but I'll start the story. We are doing our own fish club, and we've been doing now for quite a few months, Lakes Aquarium club in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. We've done our own little fish club here, and we meet once a month. And our entire idea for the fish club is not for a club to benefit the fish keepers. Our entire idea is to, one, give more publicity to gain more fish keepers, teach children about aquariums and fish, and donate to local communities and schools and education areas with aquariums. So we have donated to, I believe it was Lake park school. We have boys and girls club thrift store next that we're going to be setting up an aquarium for. That is a free daycare for our community.
So, yeah, I purchased that 55 gallon tank.
Right. And that's what we're gonna continue doing for our club.
Yep. And we're gonna donate that. And it's just sitting out in my garden shed right now.
And part of the club facilities are going to be hosting fish swaps. And we've done three now. Two, three. I don't know. Math hurts. And it has been attracting.
Because you've lost your testicles.
I've lost my testicles. That's part of my brain. I know anatomy.
That's where I do all my thinking, too.
That's where the thinking happens. So we have now done fish swaps in our small community, in our lakes area community.
You know, that just sounds dirty. It's kind of like wife swapping. But we did fish swaps.
We did fish swaps. I'll take your fish, you take my fish. No one asks questions, don't know questions, right. And it worked really well, honestly. We attracted a bunch of different people from the, even the twin Cities, Duluth area people came, which is 200 miles away. Yeah, I mean, we got some real good traffic. We did it on the club's back. The brewery donated our local brewery Bucks mill, if you want to know them more information. Donated the space, and we did it all for free. If you wanted to set up a table, it didn't cost you a penny, you can come set up. And we had quite a great showing. It inspired a lot of people. The people that were there said, hey, I like this so much. I want to do this in the cities. Then we did community with Tong. We did a swap. Adam was there with me. We went down there, had a great showing.
That was a good.
That was a great swap between this. We, Joe's shrimp shack, put on that wonderful show we did this last summer. And I was going to be doing it indoors. And that was a huge success due to the lack of the event of the Minnesota Aquarium society. So there's all these things popping up because we don't have it happening. Well, now the Minnesota Aquarium Society is looking at this, going, wow, this is really successful. We got to get in the game. So now the Minnesota Aquarium Society is like, you know what? We like the idea. Let's do a swap. So they decided to cut all the rules, regulations, and B's and take what was working for everyone else, like us and others, and do a swap and more power to them. You know, they're charging $50 a table. I think they charge $20 for, like, a half a table. However they do it. Sure, it's a little expensive, but I get it. They have to charge something. And I'm happy that they're not doing all these different rules and other things.
Yeah.
They're not picking.
They're not getting their space for free like we are up here.
No, they have to rent it.
We got it donated.
Right. We get it.
So basically, they're covering the metro.
They got it. They got to pay more than we do.
Yep. And they're covering their costs and stuff. But fantastic. Good for them for. For going out there and trying to help educate the public and create some excitement.
I'm so tickled to see that. We up here, Tong Joe. All of them peer pressured him into doing a fish swap, and I hope it kicks ass. But. But here's the asterisk.
What? I just looked at the date. What is it?
I just looked at the date. It's on the Super bowl.
No, they're doing the swap on the Super bowl.
So when you hear this, the swap will probably already be over. But I'm like, come on.
Wow.
Who at Maz sat there and pr'd this? Like, do they workshop it? Like, guys, what's gonna work for you? I don't know. Could it be Saturday? No, I'm busy then. You know, what if we did it on Sunday?
That is too bad.
Sunday. So they're doing it literally. That's gonna cut noon to five. That's on Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah.
The Super bowl isn't start till seven.
If you think about it, the Super bowl is five.
Super bowl has always been five.
Oh, yeah. 05:00 and you gotta get your pre drunk on.
Yeah. And the ideas of, you know, catch metro people, fine. But these swaps catch people 3 hours plus, you know, coming of all directions. No one's gonna do that when they're trying to cook all day and prepare for their party. You know, it's just a shame.
Might be a learning curve. We could be wrong. It could be very successful.
So if you're a Moz member and you listen to this, you know, just elk a bong them and pick a different date next time, because we want this to succeed for you people.
Absolutely.
All right, what do you boys got for information?
I got nothing. Adam, what do you got? I'm good.
I got nothing right now.
You got nothing. You got nothing.
I'm starting to work on the pissy Aquarius.
We're so excited.
We're excited about that. For those of you who are listening, for the first time on occasion, once in a while, very seldom does Adam go off on a tyrant.
Yeah, not that often, really.
And loses his effing mind.
Yeah.
And anyway, so we're gonna start a new thing called the pissy Aquarius. I've got people right now working on the intro music and stuff, and we're gonna put Adam in a padded room, and we're just gonna let him rant for five minutes while the rest of us go to the bathroom, take a pee. It's kinda like going to a Bon Jovi concert when Richie Zamborra would sing. You'll go get a beer. So now when Adam's ranting, you can just go, I gotta take a leak and come back. He'll still be going on about the same thing.
I'll be back.
Don't worry about it. But Adam was talking, and he's gonna try to do good things and better things.
Excellent. Now, we do have a new section in the discord I put up because we have so many people now suggesting different topics that we should do in the. For future episodes that I do have a, what's called new podcast topics set form section in discord. And immediately, the first post seeing the event schedule, because we're doing this podcast live on Discord, they said Pissy Aquarius 420 episode. You know, could you get them fired up in stone for us, please?
Adam's a lot of fun when that happens.
Yeah, my wife's never seen me that way. She's never seen me drunk either.
Really? Yeah. I think I've seen you drunk a couple times.
She's heard the stories, Jim. You were not very helpful with the stories.
You know, you can blame me for getting you drunk maybe once. I got your grandmother drunk once, and so I'm good.
All right, well, if that does it for news, then we'll carry on. I've been looking forward to this topic and have done my own research, so hopefully I can bring something to the table. But I am so excited to have our expert on. Can I say Katie or Kate to start off with?
Either is fine.
Either. Well, number one, what got you into fish before we get into your background?
Okay. So I started with reptiles, and then I'm from California, so we made a cross country move out to the east coast in 2020, 2019, something like that. Ended up. So I specialize in, like, large colubrids. I do a lot of, like, spill odes, stuff like that. False water cobras.
All right, hold on. I'm not a snake or turtle guy. There's a lot of big words that was just thrown out of big words. Me out.
Adam knew them all. Adam knew every of them.
So tiger rat snakes, king rat snakes. I've got a rhino iguana back there. I've got a tegu back there. I keep some procinia. I think people call them green kill belly lizards.
Oh, yep, yep.
Yeah. Stuff like that. I did dart frogs for a long time, and then I ended up keeping. So, like, false water cobras are probably my favorite thing I keep. They love fish. So I have to start keeping convicts because goldfish are trash, right? We're not trying to feed goldfish to anything. And then I ended up like, hold on. Wait a minute. Fish are kind of cool. Went down this rabbit hole, and when I moved and had to kind of, like, start over anyway, you know, you're packing up everything, putting it in boxes. I was like, okay. Like, set up a couple more tanks than what I had, and then COVID happened, and they gave me a stimulus check that I really didn't. Not gonna say I didn't need, but there was definitely enough in the budget for a fish tank, and then it was just downhill from there. And that was probably about four years ago.
That's usually how that works.
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was bad. And I was already in the habit of, like, $600 on animals. Why not go, like, let's do it? So, like, fish was not a huge jump. It was pretty, like, as far as I don't know how well you guys know the reptile industry or anything, but fish are pretty affordable in the long run. Not a bad gig.
Now, people need to understand, like, they're gonna go with us. Like, oh, COVID, it's only been, like, what, years of you having fish? They don't understand, like, how aggressive you've been into it. Like, you need to tell them what you have on hand now and what level of fish keeping you got up to in that amount of time.
Okay, so I've dabbled in a little bit of salt water. I don't really have anything. I just got that water box for Christmas. So we're trying to get seahorses up, trying to get my other. Like the room behind this one is my actual fish room in the house. My maboo puffer down here. And I've got three, no, four different species of bayshear in that tank with them. So we've got Senegales and licheri, weaksai. And I'm forgetting something. Adelhizai in there. And then the tank above that. I've got my group of Amazons, which I've been getting spawning behavior, but they're in there with my clown loaches. So I'm like sick. My puffers are laying eggs and then my loaches come out and eat them. So now I gotta go.
They haven't killed the loaches.
I don't have any aggression issues.
Interesting. I'm gonna.
You know what? I'm gonna knock on wood.
That's cuz they're all stoned.
I feed pretty generously. I'm pretty good about that. But I have never had a problem. Not with my maboo, not with my pea puffers, not with my Amazons. I'm getting a group of Congos this year, so we'll see if they want to murder anything. And then I have a fax on my list too, because people say if anything's gonna kill something, it's that. So definitely branching out into like, puffers a little bit more.
You know, in that whole description she gave, I learned one thing, Jimmy, is that I need to be stoned to pronounce anything correctly. She immaculately crushed every pronoun.
Everything.
Even. Even Bashir. Like, you nailed it.
Very passionate about what I do, which, I don't know, the fish hobby has been, oddly, a little more forgiving. Reptile people are very, like, anal, to the point.
Reptile people can be assholes.
They will make an example of you every time. So, like, I've kind of tried to line my pieces and cues, and if I do fudge something, like, try to do the best I can, but thank you. I try to. I know what I keep. I don't keep everything, but I like to do what I do well.
So now, in your household, is there anybody in your house that you can depend on helping you with this stuff? Are you in this alone?
I have my husband and he's not a fish person, but he likes the fish and seems to like me decently. So I work a crazy work schedule, right? I go 10:00 p.m. To 630 in the morning, and then he's a day walking normie. And he's going to school right now, too. So, like, we're constantly in and out of this house. So I can be like, hey, like, can you drop frozen food? I gave them pellets this morning. And he knows what needs what, right? I tell him Alfie needs clams. He's like, I got it. Like, I'll feed the fish. I got you. Yeah, you can do a water change, which is immaculate. That's been a lifesaver a couple of times, but. But usually it doesn't come down to that.
Yeah, Jimmy, you're a day walking Normie. She's a night walker. What am I at second shift? That's my real question.
Oh, second shift sucks.
Part timer, a filthy casual.
A part timer. I like that.
A guy that doesn't really care about my life.
A guy that works in pajama bottoms, but business attire on top.
Okay, quick tangent. I sat there. There's a guy at the gas station named Clinton. I see him every time. I go there at least twice a week. Cause I stop at this gas station for lunch. They got this place called blue taco. Another story.
He pulls up at his Tesla.
I'm getting lunch. I'm sitting there, and we always have this little back and forth retard banter. And he's just sitting there. It's like he leans in. I mean, just awkward as hell. Just like face to face. You ever get ever just get ordinance sick of being home? I'm like, man, do I. But this is, I mean, this is the only time I get to wear pants is coming to see you. And there's six people deep behind me, and they all took one giant step back behind me.
I would, too.
Yeah. So it was great. It was bad. Tangent. More into your professional career. So now we got into your hobbies behind you, and you're on camera. So we're seeing the racks of snakes and fish behind you.
Yeah. And it's chaos right now, too. It's absolutely. Everything's all over the place, which we love.
So I do have a question. Do you have the. Did you need a permit for the tegu, or do we. We have to block that out.
So his grandfather did.
Okay, I want to make sure because that we might have had to.
Yeah, I work in Florida. I live in Georgia. I had him before they outlawed them here. So I did have to get him registered, but he just turned 14, so he's just. He's just a grumpy old man. Anyway, so he's in, like, retirement mode out here, but, yeah. No, technically, no permit, but he's registered.
Well, when you need another one, let me know. In the professional sphere. Yeah, in the professional sphere. Tell us a bit about your professional background, the information you gave me, and we can't talk about certain details, but you said that you work for a medical marijuana farm. A large medical marijuana farm. Go more about what you do there.
So to elaborate on that a little bit more, I work for a huge multistate operator. My facility, specifically is a 750,000 square foot indoor grow. We're all hydroponic. Yeah, big, big bitch. One of my hallways, like, to get down from one end to the other. I think we've timed it at, like, a quarter mile long from the door. So you get your steps in. In there. Specifically, I'm in leadership. So I lead a team of about 15 to 20 people in our momprop veg, and clone production aspect of our building. So anything that's in our genetic library that we're taking production off of. So you just like we do with stem plants in the aquarium, right? You're gonna take it. You take a sample off of your mom. You plug it. It gets roots. You send it into a vegetative room to get a little bigger. You send it into a flower room, trigger it to flower, and then you send it off to be harvested. But I don't really usually get involved with too much of the other side of things. If I want to work some overtime, I'll go work with our harvest here.
That was a whole lot of steps really fast.
It's like raising children.
Yeah.
And you release them into the wild.
Yeah. You just fill them with corn pops. You shake them a bit. You shit their pants, you knock them out the door.
Yeah. So you'll just get them to root in there. They spend maybe two weeks as a baby. You'll spend maybe three weeks in veg, which is a longer day period, more light. So you. They're not worried about fruiting. It's like summertime. So they're taking up all of this.
I'm going to come back to the bouncing ball, because I got a lot of questions along the way.
Oh, boy.
From. From stem to harvest. How long does it take to go from stem to harvest?
Stem to harvest. We're running, like, 56 days.
Wow, that's quick.
Yeah. So not. Or. Well, technically, if we're cleaning veg maybe it's longer, maybe it's more like 80 with everything included. Because I think we measure flour from. Once it gets to flour to end.
Beats the shit out of avocados from Mexico.
Yeah, yeah. And then it's nothing. They switch into flower. That will go for, like, a shorter photo period, like, what winter will happen. So you trigger that annual to fruit, she makes her buds, and then she gets sent on her way to the slaughterhouse and on down the line from there. So mostly what I do is, like, I'm a. I work in operations. So, like, we do work with the plants. Like, that's our job tale. That's a labor we do. My job specifically is more people building at this point. I'm a people manager, so I've got a couple people. I see a level of leadership below me, and then there's all of our, like, actual labor team. So I get to do a little bit of everything realistically.
So my question to you is, I'm sure some of this stuff is some pretty high end stuff, correct?
Yeah.
And so do the employees get shook down when they leave the plant at night to make sure they don't have a pocket full of something?
Um, it's very rare somebody gets shook down, but in the instance that they do, either somebody has seen something or we run. I'm pretty sure I could talk about this. We run a version of internal security, and there is, at any given point in that building, you probably are on camera from six different angles. And that's on, like, the conservative. And if you're out in, like, a big open space, it's probably more like 15. And we have people monitoring our facility all the time because we run 24/7 lights never go out, so keep moving.
You got security guards here, I'm assuming?
Yeah, we have security on site and, like, the whole nine. And it's very, like, it's not really easy. No one's ever working by themselves. And we have such. We do have a killer team. So usually if there's someone acting suspicious, I don't even. It doesn't get that far. One of my people is going to come up and be like, a so and so is acting kind of shifty in the flower hall. Like, maybe you need to keep an eye on that. And it's usually a set and done deal from there.
Do you want to know what I find amusing? There's more cameras watching that than there were that were watching the canadian gold facility when they had that guy shoving gold 1oz blanks up his ass.
Worth of gold. What type of out of pocket information is that?
Adam? That is.
Wow.
That came from Adam's head from somebody's book.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
I like to apologize. Dalton and I are the only two people that are not buzzed here, so forgive me.
So I don't think I'd want to keister a bunch of plants, honestly.
I mean, I know the closest we ever got, I think, is this one girl was working, so. And when they go into flower, you'll have to do plant work. You'll do, like, a defoliation and a prune to keep them from being big, ugly bitches on the table, right? This girl comes up to our break room, and our plant health people are in there, which is, like, supervisors and up. And she's wearing jeans. And, like, if you've ever been in a pair of women's jeans in your life, you know, the front pockets don't hold shit. Not a damn thing. You're lucky if you can get your lighter in there. So it's very obvious she has something in her pocket, man. She starts. They're like, hey, like, what's going on? What you doing? What you got there? And she empties her pockets out, and it's straight up wet, bud, like, right off the planet. You just. That I. And then she starts telling this nonsense about, like, none of it's drop. I bought it from home. I didn't know I couldn't have it in my facility. Like, I just bought it this morning.
And it's wet.
Yeah. Other than that, I haven't seen. People are surprisingly good about not stealing.
I would be worried, personally, once the general public knows about what's going on. And it doesn't take a long time, you know, if something's happening in a area that people know what's going on. And I'm surprised that the, like, a whole bunch of freaking renegades haven't just tried to run over the plant, you know, in the middle of the night with a, you know, 50 people on motorcycles or something. It just.
Jesus.
What?
It wouldn't really go that great. I know. So we all not only have security, but, like, they be packing. They're not cops, but I don't know what exactly their job title is. I don't really interact.
They're packing off.
Hold on, hold on.
They're packing.
Tea time for the listeners. This is an aquarium podcast. You have to understand. We're going to do a lot of questions about cannabis in the aquarium. That's the topic here. But we're giant man children. And we don't get to talk to pot experts that often. This, this is, this is a true pot expert from a massive, probably one of the largest pot farms in the United States. This is cool. And we can't help it. We're going to have some extra.
I just find it fascinating as hell.
So Jim, you know what, they probably, they probably are not knowing anything of where this is or anything. They're probably all ex military that are given fully automatic weapons and they are.
Probably x back to the, back to the different conversation. So let's talk about monkeys for a second. The strains. We have a question here from the audience. How many different strains do you guys produce in this? 700,000 plus square feet.
So I know what I run in my genetic library and I think we're sitting at about, I have three mom rooms. Each mom room has 27 tables. I hold 40 plants to a table. Usually it's only one strain per table, but we get a lot of different stuff. I'm sitting at like 37 in rotation right now, but my building is building like it's one of eleven, so mine's the biggest. All of these other buildings on site are a 24k, but they alternate other genetics, so during the day they'll be like, oh hey, we need a batch of these for over there. And they'll send me a big rotation of like, hey, I've never seen that before. But we're going to send it to flower anyway. And we do stuff like that. So probably at any given time in my building across site, there's probably somewhere around 50 60 or so.
50 60 across all buildings.
That's incredible.
Yeah, that, that's a lot. Now can you name like some of them or is that classified information?
Oh yeah. So no, we can go into description.
Of is Pineapple Express really a thing or just a movie company is in.
Florida so it's a lot of like if you're on the east coast, it's probably genetic stuff. If you are smoking weed of any kind. We run like a lot of pineapple upside down cake, Ray Bay, hippie crasher, nine pound hammer, freedom flowers, sunshine State, Og. We run Khalifa Kush, we run Khalifa mints, we'd run. What else are we running?
Holy hell.
You know it sounds like people are high when they're naming this stuff.
I'm just thinking, um, they usually are.
And then.
So if you've ever to people who don't get it, I've always, if you've ever seen like race horses, race horses have some bullshit ass names, right. But it's all like lineage based, right? And essentially some people try to stay true to that. But if you take the time to produce what's either genetically a new thing, or people even will take like a phenotype of something and then rename it as like a new strain. Kind of like people name species, right? You'll get inspired and pick some random shit or you name it after yourself. Or like, oh, don't get me started.
On needle dick scientists.
Oh, no, I'm just pretty sure I.
Don'T want to smoke something called Adam. Adam El Nichard is like, hey, this is some good stuff.
It would be hairy. That's for sure.
Be hairy.
Anyways, we're going to have questions, and I know we're going to have a lot of newbies ask the question, what's the difference between hydroponics and aquaponics?
Okay, so aquaponics is you're using aquaculture. There are fish present hydroponics. There is no. Sometimes people in a hydroponic setup will run in deep water culture. So we're reusing the same water, we're culturing the same kind of probiotic bacteria in there, but we're not hosting any other life in there. We are just providing nutrient for the plants.
What?
Aquaculture, that's where you see people, where they have tanks of tilapia, or people will raise all kinds of other things that are putting those nitrates out, that'll feed your plants above, and then they research the water that way.
Is there any special nutrients that you can talk about that you give to your particular specimens for farming?
Really? You can use anything. It's weed, right? Cannabis is just to give everybody a little bit background. Naturally, you can find cannabis from Southeast Asia all the way up. So we're finding it in the himalayas, we're finding it in Siberia, which is where, like, our autoflower specimens come from. So she's not picky. She's not really super ph sensitive. Doesn't like high alkaline things like most plants do. But to be it up, you kind of really like just gotta it up.
Like you gotta go out of your way to mess it up.
It's not hard to grow at all, even a little bit. They do get a little greedy. So you'll switch from, like when you're growing them out from veg and you make that switch to flour, they obviously have a higher, like, intake need, right? So you'll supplement more of your micronutrients and things like that. But it is basic, basic horticulture. I've seen people struggle more with certain strains of like, apples or even tomatoes, which tomatoes are pretty vigorous too, but some of those heirloom strains can be a little picky.
So is your background in, I mean, do you have schooling for this or is this something that you just kind of fell upon?
Um, I have a GED and then, so I'm from California and that's kind of just like the culture, right? I did a little bit of straight up, like was 16 years old when I was doing this, so probably shouldn't have been, but I used to trim for out in like Humboldt, Humboldt county and stuff like that. And then I ran extract production for a little bit, so kind of always just dabbled in it. And then mainly my background is small business management. I used to manage a chain of like reptile stores in southern California. So that retail was what I did. Work for a reptile factory. If anybody's familiar with Carlson with, is there anybody like that grateful for those people? They kept me floating for a long time, would still work there if I didn't pack up my life and run away. But yeah, that's my background. And then we moved out here and it's kind of, I live in south Georgia, north Florida area. There ain't going on out here. So it was like just the closest thing that would keep me going that didn't require me going to get an education or whatnot.
You live in Georgia?
I do.
So I want to talk to you about the monkey farm. Oh, no, I do. I want seriously, monkey farm. So there's, there's a plan for a 400 million dollar monkey breeding facility in southwest Georgia. And all the neighbors are losing their shit. It's been in the national news the last couple of nights. They're talking about raising 30,000 monkeys in order to use them for medical purposes. Have you heard any of this about.
I've not heard a lot about this. And I can imagine why people are freaking out. There's not far from me near the, I think it's off of the Wasisa river in Florida, or very, very close to there in the panhandle area where we're at. Some dude back in the day was like, I'm gonna put monkeys on this island and I'm just gonna, yeah, it's gonna be like an atrium thing. And apparently he didn't know monkeys can swim. And there's monkeys in Florida. And then I know there was that incident down in, I think the Miami area maybe a couple years ago where somebody's pet escaped and bit somebody. And it was, like, a huge deal. People were like, oh, like, pet monkeys aren't as cute as they think they are. I don't know how southwest, but that does. I almost don't like the sound of that just because I've seen how irresponsible some people manage their livestock here, and primates are one of the few things that. That's a hard no for me. Like, that's a no for me. I'm good on all of that, so.
Oh, no, no. I get the little tamarind monkeys. The ones that fit. Fit in your hand because they won't kill you.
Hold on, hold on. We're talking about monkeys here. We have so much to cover in so little time.
These are the long tailed macaws, man. Let's talk.
Oh, my God.
Macaques. Yeah. Macaques are the ones that they released, and those swim like fish.
Yeah. No, thank you.
30,000 long tailed macaques, and they're gonna sell them to universities and pharmaceutical companies for medical research, and they're worried that they might get out. If you've got 30,000 monkeys, one's gonna get out for damn sure. I tell you that much.
And then the problem there is like, so you go and buy a dog or anything from a breeder, and usually you sign a contract that is in some kind of detail about, like, you can't care for this animal anymore. It is to be returned. It's very common. But these facilities producing these specimens for medical use don't have any responsibility for them. So you end up with multiple cases of their either pick, like, a designated location, which they're monkeys, you're gonna drop off somewhere, and they're not gonna stay there because they're monkeys. That's what they do. They're gonna move. Plus, they care, and they just get away with it. So you have all of these isolated populations of invasive primate species that are probably a huge biohazard threat, if you think about it, that nobody has any responsibility for. Not the pharmaceutical companies, not the universities, if you're lucky, they end up back in a zoo or some kind of facility like that. But there's very, very few facilities that are going to be able to accommodate, let alone 30,000 primates, that a facility is going to be producing. That's a little scary.
I don't know why we can't just use people. Because I have a long list of people that we could use for medical experiments.
Not only you guys derailed monkeys. Now you're getting weird. All right, I'm bringing this back to topic.
No, we don't talk about monkeys.
I need to.
So I have a question.
Thank you.
That's relevant.
I hope it's about monkeys. Don't.
Well, later. So what type of hydroponics do you use? Is it a. Is it a mix? I know you said that you do some deep water culture, but do you. I mean, is it just a flood and drain or what do you do?
So am I. So our side of the building specifically, we're not doing it or. Well, and nowhere in the facility are we really doing a deep water culture, at least in my building. For context, everybody's super familiar with what I'm growing in. If you've ever bought aquatic plants and they've got that little rockwool plug on the bottom, that's exactly what I'm running them in. Whether the plants this big or the plants in flower, they are sitting in a rockwool cube the whole time. The hooky rockwool mineral. So that little spongy, foamy shit.
Circular.
Yeah. Like, like when you buy an aquarium plant rob's and you open it up and it looks like it's insulation.
Oh, that nasty foamy shit that they put around that plastic basket.
Yeah. Like, yeah, the stuff that you should have wrapped around your penis just so you don't reproduce.
I'm dead serious. I was scared that it's gonna be like insulation in my skin. Like, what is that shit?
So it is. That's exactly what it is. That is. You can go to your Lowe's or Home Depot. And the brand, the rockwool is a big brand that it's called, but it's all mineral wool. And what they do is, I think.
They treat it, when you say wool, is this wool?
W o o l. Yes, w o o l. Wool. Yeah, absolutely. So what they're taking is they're taking basalt rock from like lava beds or whatever, and they're heating it and pulling fibers from it. And then to get insulation, I think they treat it, it's, either one of them is more finely refined than the other. And I'm not going to claim to know exactly which one it is right now, but what they do is they take that and they treat it with like a soaking agent to make it non hydrophobic, because insulation naturally doesn't want to be wet. Right. Then they send it to us and it holds water, and I grow my plants in it.
What's beneficial about this? It sounds very inert.
So it is extremely inert. And that's the beautiful thing. Right. So my facility runs off of, I think, 120,000 gallon ro system. We mix all of our own nutrients into our batch and then we send through our irrigation system into these inner non Rockwell cubes. And what the appeal is here is that cannabis is notorious for picking up heavy metals. And when you send your butt off to be lab tested, still hold on to all of those things. So you're coming up with all of these nasty little elements that your plant has picked up as nutrient, basically, and is retaining in the bud that your patient is. So the beauty of rockwool is that they're guaranteed, like, I think a less than 2% swing, like, as far as like, impurities in what they're putting into this, like, product. And it's just basalt, so it's very, very inner anyway. It's not containing any of these other heavy things. So we get a more pure start when we're starting. So it's obviously, as you would imagine, not like a plants like dirt. It's a little bit tricky to get them to. Yeah, go.
But let's say I caught my roommate, you know, wink wink, grabbing some seeds, and he just like, put it in my, you know, outside my window of my house and shoved him on my lawn. What type of impurities is he getting from my lawn?
God only knows. Right?
Every chemical on your lawn.
I'm assuming that you guys have had some, like, you know, rando tests on garbage weed. What does the in the wild see on, like, shit in weed?
So I think the last thing I published, which if you guys are familiar with, with LinkedIn, there's a lot of. That's where you are gonna get the most up to date.
I'm not gonna lie to you, Katie. When I think about impurities and weed, the last place I want to look is LinkedIn. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Isn't that crazy? So me too.
Or Facebook.
It is the only platform that is not actively banning or shadow banning or demonetizing or otherwise not. You try to promote cannabis on other platforms and you end up not getting any experience because the algorithm hates you. So you end up with a little bit more of like a steady feedback. And the biggest things that are coming back from people, I'm saying, are mercury. I'm not sure what they're doing, but what I'm assuming is most grows to save the money are providing like, a raw cocoa product. So if you've worked with reptiles or whatnot and you've seen like, a cocoa brick, that shit is refined, it's beautiful, it's dusty and a pain in the ass, but it is very, very well processed before it gets to you. What people are taking in. In a horticulture setting, you find trash, blunt raps, all kinds of random ass shit that you'll have to go through and sift out before you go ahead and pot for your plants. So really, you basically anything you can imagine. I've seen all kinds of wacky things come back on a third party test. I know we're testing at, like, I think a less than 5%, 10% impurity rate or something like that.
All right, next question. Thank you. Dalton, you kicked me off in this great tangent here. So if you're doing this hydroponic, right, and you're using, forgive me for lack of a better term, the shitty styrofoam insulation, foam cubes. Rock, right? Rockwell, is that, like, a brand?
Rock wool.
Rock wool, rock wool. I always hear, like, Rockwell, like it's fucking cell phone case or something from rocks. All right, rock wool, rock wool. It'll stick. Now we're using pieces of rock wool. How far do you submerge it? Is it just the roots? Do you start the seed in the rock wool?
No, we're not submerging anything, and we're kind of doing a 50 50 split in, like, my facility, specifically what my experience is. So part of what we're doing is a drip irrigation system, which relies on exactly what it sounds like we're putting stakes in, and they're drip, drip, drip, drip, drip down into the cube, and they'll flush down out of the bottom. And then what we're doing elsewhere is a sub irrigation method where we're filling troughs that the cubes sit in with water for a time set. So that cube is only ever going to hold so much water. Right. And if you run a trial, you can see how long it takes it to hit that absorption point. So they're on a timer, and that'll kick on. Water will flow. We let them feed, and then it kicks back off, and we keep submerged that way.
Have you ever looked at, like, an NFT system where it, you know, the water just flows? It's a really small amount of water. It's really aerated.
Yeah. So we do similar things like that. The problem is, is it's such a big facility. We actually run on an automated track, which is kind of. We're kind of getting into that gray area of, like, I don't know how much I'm allowed to say, but we don't need that for when we feed out of the head, it hits the trough, right. So you could actually get like a lot of aeration, your flow, and then she'll steady run off, and then the trough will be empty completely. You don't really want your weed. She doesn't want her feet wet all the time. Not really ideal. You can keep them wet for long periods of time, but the appeal of letting them feed and then dry back is that she has to go looking for water. So you get a much more substantial root system by allowing that dry back period.
It sounds like it's most hydroponic plants, right.
It's like a great place to raise Bettas.
Yeah.
You do a side hustle and put.
Bettas in those, and then they'll be sent out with oscars and just like a general, like, south american mix of stuff. But it's weed. You could really grow it with basically anything but shitty african cichlids, I think.
Jimmy, you remember 2000, 2001 when they had those vases and then you put like a pothos plant, and then you had like a beta and they said they eat the roots. Imagine you did that with a weed plant, and then you make grandma and be like, no, it eats the roots. Look, it's sitting, sitting there, laying on the bottom of the jar, stoned as hell.
If an Oscar is not mean enough, now get the Oscar a little loaded and stuff and see if he's aggressive.
So we pick your brain on these, and we really railed in those questions, because we are trying to know, as aquarists, how can I grow a pot inside of my aquarium? One, two, how can I use cannabis, either CBD, the plants, any type of thc, something for my fish, which I know every person in here has been listening for. Can I give it to my shrimp? How can I put it in my aquarium? Do I treat it like an almond leaf? There's a lot of littered questions. And three, how have you been doing it? So start with the first one. How can we grow pot plants, whether hemp, whatever, in our aquarium, in our neighbor's aquarium, it is legal now in the state of Minnesota. For here we can have, what is it, eight pot plants, seven pounds of actual dried plant for personal use. Personal use on hand, which is ridiculous.
I thought it was two, not seven.
No, seven. Seven pounds.
Two pounds is a lot.
Let me look this up.
I've heard. I don't know.
I want you to double check that Rob's.
I'm gonna do that while she answers the question. So regardless, what do we need to do? Do we need to get rock wool, tickle it, put an automated system.
You can run rockwool, you can run cocoa. If you're trying to grow out of your aquarium, it would probably be generally advised to use some sort of hydroponic media, right? Because it's not so messy. And we're not going to be contaminating that. If you're running coco, that's going to lower your ph and you should be stocking your fish to accommodate that. Right. Especially if growing the plant is the goal. You would need to pick, like, whose needs are you trying to prioritize in that situation? My preference would be to run an auto flower. So if just a recap on what that means. There's three different species of cannabis. We have cannabis sativa, cannabis indica, and cannabis ruderalis. Ruderalis is that one that comes up from Siberia. So shorter day periods, right. She's got a faster flowering season. So all in all, from germination of seed to harvest, you're looking at maybe 60, 65 days. All in all, that's a wrap. These plants, they don't get as big. Average yield off of a single autoflower will be about seven to 10oz, on average. A little bit easier on your budget, too. Smaller plant, not taking up as much nutrients, not taking as much space you can rig. I've seen all kinds of, like, 3d printed buckets that people make. It's basically like a plastic square for your media to sit in. You can accommodate floating. I've done five gallon buckets. You can make. They make, like, hydroponic plastic trays that'll sit over. They make all kinds of crazy stuff for specifically, like, aqua quality culture needs.
How far can a plant that is a, you know, actual leafed plant, can the roots be in an aquarium? Couple inches in the water?
I would say an inch or two is safe with the mindset that, like, all that material is wicking, right. So she'll pick up what she needs. As long as you're not saturating enough to the point where you're culturing or whatever anaerobic bacteria, cyanobacteria, seems to really like what we do. We see it all the time. And that'll kind of. We get the red, it goes this beaut, almost really impressive purple, and then it goes this really kind of, like, amazing shade of turquoise. And it grows in these, like, ropes. I could pick up 15 foot stretches of algae because things will stop up in our floor. And just like anywhere else, like, I can't clean my room with when I reset it and there's no plants, I'll go in there with bleach or something else to clear it up. But any cleaner I take in there when there's plants, we run at risk of them picking it up. So basically like trumpet snails.
There you go.
No, we have so many filter membranes in our building, I would. If they ever, like, fire me, they better hope I don't bring a bunch of those bastards in, because it's over.
You can bring the New Zealand ones in, that's even worse.
No, teach them.
Not to me, please.
Edit that out so that she does it.
Yeah, don't get me fired.
Yeah, you heard that Elden podcast only. I do have an update, by the.
Way, you were talking about being able to put in your aquarium. How tall does it get?
So an auto flower from harvest. I know, like, we're not, this isn't going to be posted, but probably about, I don't know, three and a half feet, 4ft. Genetics play a lot to it. So back in the day, ruderalis was like ass because they're a shorter lived species. The terpene profile wasn't there, all of that. So they've hybridized them with our other species of cannabis. So you get all of these bread and true hearty genetics that don't taste like dirty coochie. So you kind of get like this weird gray area right where there's a standard, but because the genetics have been so muddled, you're like, I'm gonna pop this seed and we'll see what I get, right? Auto flowers have. It's my preference. I love growing them. I don't get to grow them a lot, or we don't grow them at all in my building. But you'll buy a pack of ten seeds, right? Ten feminized seeds from the same mom plant, and you could pop them and you could get six, seven, 8910 different outcomes. And that's what we like, that those would be different phenotypes of a strain. So like, it's kind of hard to tell you what your average is always accommodate for at least 4ft of head space, right? Because you want to go up, so your colas have like, the space and your plant has that time to get dense to support all of that bud.
So we got a lot of questions.
If that goes into an aquarium. To be able to support the weight of the plant, you're gonna need significant.
So unless you're trying something like, something flashy where like you want to be able to sea or whatnot, the easy, easiest thing for you to do is going to be able to do, like, one of those preformed stock tanks on the ground and then set up from there. They're not super hard to support. A single well placed trellis bar. And, you know, some low stress training where you're tying up your branches so they know where they're sitting. She'll grow, right? As long as you're not, you know, not feeding it correctly or any of these other.
Don't tire too tight.
Okay, so we got a bunch of questions. We got questions, we got questions. I got to hit these quick because I'm over more really specific. One is that five or 6oz wet or dry?
Dry?
Dry. Five or 6oz dry. That's incredible.
Number two, upwards of ten.
How dare you? What's wrong with dirty coochie?
Everything. We don't like dirty coochie. Right? And more specifically, like, if I just got home from the club, maybe dirty coochie passable, right? If I just sat down and I'm trying to roll, I'm trying to rick my bong. I don't want to smell no dirty coochie. There's a time and a place for everything.
Yeah, we. We do clean, purified, medical grade marijuana in this bit.
I thought you're gonna say coochie.
Coochie.
I thought you say medical coochie.
Get your mind.
He's in his bathroom anyway, so get.
Your mind out of the gutter. Sir, I did get an update. I did confirm. Yes, eight cannabis plants for per person, four being mature in Minnesota per person, primary residence person of Minnesota over 21. That's the rule. And two pounds, which is still a cartoonish figure, two person.
So out of this whole crew, Adam knew it was two pounds.
The seven pounds was a measurement of how they punish you. That's where I got it confused. So, yes, two pounds is the personal flower total that you can keep on handling for your personal rules.
And I know how to bend them.
You know how to bend the rules, Adam?
That is a retarded amount of weed.
You know what I've gotten so far from this podcast? What I'm really, really concerned about is what happens if these 30,000 monkeys get out and they storm her facility. It's gonna be mayhem. I'm telling you that right now.
They're gonna get their monkeys back. The monkeys are gonna be too high to go anywhere.
That's right. They're gonna come there and stay there. You've seen Planet of the apes. You're gonna be working for a monkey. Jimmy. No time.
The only hope I already work for.
The only hope she has. The only hope she has is dirty coochie weed to keep them awake.
All right, I want to see some planet of the apes memes here, people.
All right, next questions. This is going to be a long podcast.
If it's anything more about dirty coochie, I just.
All right, so next questions. You said that it would be great for patio ponds. What if you were to hang the weed? For instance, if you already had a plant that you harvested from outside and you wanted to take that stalk, that hemp stalk inside, and you were submerged, the roots, and hang them into your aquarium, the two recommended inches into the rock wool that you recommended, and hang that plant from the ceiling into your aquarium, would that pose any risks, considering you had the appropriate lighting? Is do I have to worry about pinching the stock? Is there some sort of only thing.
I would worry about? The closest thing I've done to hanging, right. I did. I don't know if you guys remember those infomercials with the topsy turvy tomato thing?
Oh, I love it.
Throughout the bottom of your.
You're hitting my nail on the head thing with weed.
That's right.
You can do the same thing. Your only issue is that. So for years now, decades now, we've been breeding for yield, right? I want to see that weight. And people kind of tend to lack on their stress training. So if you're growing where you're gonna have all that extra weight specifically put on certain parts of your plant, I'm gonna sound like a lunatic, but anytime you walk past that bitch, go past her and shake her. Shake the out of her, actually. Because in nature, what they're gonna do is they're gonna be experiencing wind, they're gonna be experiencing all kinds of other elements that are gonna fortify that stem. She's gonna go, hey, I gotta get strong here. I'm gonna get knocked the down. And what you're doing is you're forcing her to, like, toughen up a little bit before she's gonna produce all of those big ass buds that are gonna be weighing her down and causing all those bending issues.
That's why you need a monkey. Is that working there? You think about it. If you had a monkey that would just go by and shake the tree.
Would you calm the down and you banana, for God's sake?
Hell yeah.
It sounds crazy, but like a lot of people, like, when we set up fans and whatnot in your grow, that's what you're that's obviously you want airflow, but you're kind of trying to constantly stress train them, especially if you've ever grown like a mother plant. So a mom is just a big vegetative plant that will never produce flower. She used to produce clones, but you can grow a mom 6810 12ft big as you want. But a lot of people have issues growing indoor where they'll not provide the environmental stimuli they need to grow appropriately. And instead of being like, yeah, I'm a tree, she kind of just collapses in on herself because her canopy gets too heavy.
Now, if you want to something that.
Stress training, something you do in your facility.
Absolutely. Stress training is basically any event that you'll do to a plant. So we have low stress and high stress training. Low stress would be like if you've seen people take ties and you're forcing them to kind of grow in a certain way over time, that's low stress. And then anytime you come in and you do like topping event, so you'll come in and hit that first top and that'll cause all of your nodes on the side to stretch. That's a high stress training event. And that can, you know, look like so many different things. Some people do super cropping, all kinds of different growth techniques. So, like, it gets pretty variable, but yeah.
So would you consider.
Whoa, hold on, my turn. I pulled a number, the topsy turvy thing you can find on Amazon.com right now. Dollar 40 for the topsy turvy planter. Go, Jimmy, go.
So low stress, would you consider, like when they, when you go to your home depot or you go wherever and they've got the bamboo that they've taken, they've intertwined the bamboo and that's considered low stress, correct?
Yes, sir. So people actually do this with recreational grows. It's called Bud's eye growing. And they do all kinds of crazy woven patterns and whatnot. And as soon as they're done with it, they'll kick that plant out of that vegetative state, change their photoperiod and then make it bud with all of these crazy intertwined sections on it.
It's very cool. Yes, that's cool.
Hell yeah.
So topsy turvy plants are on Amazon. They're rob's.
Yeah, $40.
What about a ginsu knife? As long as we're talking late night tv, ginsu knife, you know, slice your meat so thin that your in laws will never come back.
No, but they do still have snuggies just for your pathetic ass, you know.
I would use a snuggie.
What about the shake weight?
Oh, I can't do that. I watch the shake weight and I just. How do you find these big, large, boobed women with a shake weight just doing that?
There's no women doing it.
Oh, the jack off thing from.
Yes, exactly. What a jackoff pumps.
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All right, moving on.
Shake weights are the best.
God damn it. All right, so now that we've established how to grow a plant outside, how do we germinate appropriately for that plant? Do we have to use a full seedling? Like, plant it normal in dirt, then transplant to your aquarium? Or do we. Is there any way that we can plant a seed? It's, like, anywhere from our aquarium and get away with it.
Robbie's like this.
Um, so I would never go from, like, seed to straight water exposure. You're just gonna rot that little bitch out. I know it's old school. Anybody that's like an actual pot head in here, like a cultivator or anything like that is like, oh, damn. You're like, you need to get with the times. I still do a paper towel method. So just like, you pop any other seed, right, you introduce it to a damp paper towel, put it in a ziploc bag, pop that bitching your drawer, like four days or so, see if she's.
I can add to this, put it in a drawer, but put it in your kitchen drawer in the lowest spot next to a heat register, and it'll go faster.
And then if you forget about it. And then I like to transfer into a small plug. So whether using rockwool or they make little cocoa plugs or whatever the suits your fancy, you plug into there and let her sprout. And then as soon as I get visible roots on the bottom of whatever she's rooted in, that's when it's time to transplant because you don't want to give her too much time to get her roots out in there. Because then when you go to plant her, she. You're just going to suffocate them. So you want to catch it while she's early, and you're not going to, you know, work backwards when you do your up potting.
All right, I'm going to move to a next category of questions, so I'm going to give a time for some follow up from Jimmy and Adam.
Jimmy, first, don't use a butt plug.
Nay, Adam. What? Okay, you have a question?
Comment?
Concern my. Otherwise it's my turn. No. Okay, cool. Next one. So we've gotten established of sprouting it, growing it, hanging it above your aquarium to get the. And then putting your plant into the aquarium to grow the roots and establishing it out of your aquarium and using the aquaponics method from your aquarium and using your aquariums waste from it. Before we move on, is there any concerns using your fish and aquarium waste or any chemicals in the aquarium to be concerned about that you're like, for instance, methylene blue in the water, using copper in the water. Suddenly you should be taking your pot out because guess what? That's gonna make really disgusting or harmful to smoke pot for you.
So as far as I know, I'm gonna say maybe. Yeah. I don't know what you're putting in your tank, right? So if you're using tap water. I probably would not. Wouldn't. As far as from what I've heard, I know copper isn't a huge concern. I have no idea. What about methylene blue? Anytime I've done it, it's been like a straight organic system. We're running like sponge, filter and a hob. Maybe it's simple pump to recirc. I'm not doing anything but salt if I need it.
All right, then allow me to tell you, do not do that. If you're putting malachite grow green, methylene blue, any of the harsh treatments, anything even besides a water conditioner, I would consider any water conditioner being the only medication you can put in there that would be safe. Don't screw with it. Take your pot plant out for the time being into a temporary separate water source while you are treating your tank, and you can deem it safe.
And another thing that people don't know is before harvest, that seven to ten day window. Before harvest, you run a purge. So that plant is getting nothing but water, no nutrients, no nothing. And the problem that a lot of people don't realize is if you don't run a purge, you're gonna harvest your bud and it's gonna taste like your nutrients, so it's gonna taste like chemicals and booty.
Whoa, whoa, hold on. So wouldn't you like like pumpkin farmers for instance? I know cuz I have a friend that competes in pumpkins. He wow. At the, at the last week before harvesting a pumpkin, they do milk dosing. So they take the part of the stem, they cut the stem in half and they put it into a milk bowl to pump up the pumpkin and add flavor. They literally take milk and do this to it.
So what could you do nothing about no milk?
Do you milk pump your weed? Come on now.
We could make a dairy gone anything these days.
No dairy gone.
Just water, just high quality.
We could make a new strain together. Call me. All right.
And then my problem there is I don't need a flavor enhancer, right? I'm not growing a gourd, I'm growing this terpene producing behemoth. And I want to know what if.
We, what if we instead of water, use a soda stream and do like Mountain Dew?
I'm in mountain, you know what I mean?
That's what Florida needs. Honestly, you might be on to something there.
You know, a little caffeine, a little, little layback.
Yeehaw. Mountain Dew.
All right, I'm calling my boss.
We got enough problems in Florida without some mountain Dew, hopped up, weed smoking hillbillies. Okay.
Oh my God.
How much worse could it get?
Well, I don't know. I think we should all go down there. I think we should go on some wood, man? Let's go snake hunting down there.
All right. All right, so I would do that next. Jim's getting a tug toner. All right, so the next line of questions I have are the three main components that hemp in all of its parts would go into an aquarium. You have the, the stalks or stems, you have the leaves and you have the flowering bud. These three components, when dried, how do they work in an aquarium? Can you put Them in an aquarium? And what do they do to the aquarium participants?
Okay, so I've never used them in like a botanical sense.
I have.
I guess that's not true because I have gotten some bigger pieces of leaves. I usually put it into a repashy blend that I'm using. I'm treating other dry foods with like an oil or a distillate or things like that. If I'm really.
Let's hold the food for later because I got a whole category for those questions.
What are you, the police?
Yeah. So when I have had introduced, like, straight leaves, the stems are pretty woody and fibrous, especially off of a mature plant. They last a little longer. My pleco, I only have one, so I can't speak for a variety. He loves them of is he happy? Goes through them pretty quick. I can't speak for how fast they'll decompose or break down in the water by themselves. The leaves dissolve very quickly, and I've had, if it's crawling on the bottom of my aquarium, they're eating the leaves, but that's like nothing special, right? You could do that with basically any botanical. And they eat them. They're very soft, they're not thick stemmed like a magnolia or almond or whatever. So they go down really quickly, don't really last long in the aquarium.
And flower.
Flower I've never introduced. I don't think I've ever put bud in an aquarium.
Okay, so this is where I've taken many months of research that have friends in the area that they were the first people in Minnesota to get the CBD farming licenses. Minnesota is a very uptight asshole state when it comes to anything to do with the ganj. We were slow to even get medical marijuana, and they were very slow to let CBD farming happen, so they only had test sites. This was, I believe, the second farm in Minnesota to be allowed to do CBD farming. And I cannot tell you a lot of details of who they were, where it was, but I can tell you, I can tell you that they had CBD that they grew, meaning that it was the illegal strains of, of the delta nine chemical outside of their stuff, and they had to have it regularly tested and part of the Minnesota state program to sell flower bud. That was the illegal in the state of Minnesota at the time, THC, in their product. But they, of course, had their hidden plants within the field that never got tested, that were the full THC in between, that they had to hide the flowers of, so they didn't cross pollinate to their CBD plants. So I was able to take buckets and buckets of leaves, stems, and reject Bud. That's why I have a jar of here of the stuff that they ended up, that they never grew. It was just stuff they found in the ditch that they mowed out, that they didn't want touching their good product. This is literally wild ditchweed that I had in the jar. I tried it in both green, semi green, and fully dried and dehydrated. I did many tests for different species and specimens of all different types of kinds. Tetras to guppies, to rice, fish, but mainly crustaceans was the focus. So any of the green leaves, whether it be semi, semi dried, or fully greenlit leaves, they would go in, and I would assume it because of the sugars in the leaf. Yet they, after 24 hours, roughly 24 to 36 hours, they would decompose and start causing fuzzing in the aquarium, like different types of mold, any type of crustaceans, whether it be shrimp, anything introduced. Any of the grazing specimens would of course try to pick at it, but because it wasn't decomposing, they would more or less ignore it. Pleco species would ignore it, unless it was fully dried. If dried, the cannabis species of leaves would work well for a little bit longer than 36 hours in the tank. But even after that, they would decompose. Not like any type of hardwood, meaning the almond leaves, the oak leaves, any of the catappa leaves, any of the traditional tannin leeching leaves that we use in the aquarium, they would instead kind of fall apart, turn to mush, and they would not break down traditionally, like those leaves you intend. And if they would bleed tannins into the water. I did not see a ton of hard, tea colored tannins coming from any of the cannabis. No matter the strain I tested, no matter the amount I put in the water either. I wouldn't even get smell from the water unless it was really gross, gross stuff. The stems, however, I would got a completely different reaction from if it was green, I would, of course get fuzz if it was dried, dried hemp worked very well. I got a lot of pleco attention. I got a lot of crustacean attention. I got a lot of residual stick. What I'm trying to say, I got a lot of. Help me out. Wood. They stayed together. It didn't break down. They stayed fibrous. That's the word I'm looking for. They stayed fibrous. They didn't break down into goo like the leaves did. They instead stayed like a stick. And it was similar to more of the. The cholo wood that we continually make fun of on the podcast.
Was it kind of woody?
And it did break down over time, but it lasted much longer. And I did end up leaving a bunch of hemp stems in my aquarium, whether they be the thin ones or thick ones. The flower treated much like the leaves did, depending on what it was, because I got only the quote unquote ditch specimens. This stuff did bleed stuff into the tank, and it did make the water smell terrible. When I say terrible, I don't smoke pot. I've only consumed ThC twice in my life after legalization in Minnesota, and I.
I love how you threw that out there.
I am a bitch. Yeah, after I'm a bitch, I'm, you know, I had 30 milligrams, and I don't remember a whole lot that went on, but I know that swiss army man is the funniest movie I've ever seen in my life. So I know I couldn't walk, and I woke up on my living room floor the next day after 30 milligrams of edibles. So I hate the smell, personally, of. Of weed. I don't know what good weed is. I know if it smells like skunk, it's probably halfway there. I know that this smells like minty dog shit, so it's probably terrible weed, but, yeah. As far as the stuff in my tank, I did have a few ammonia spikes from putting flour in that wasn't fully dried. Once it's dried, I did have the 36 hours where I had shrimp activity. They would eat it. I didn't see any goofy quote unquote activity, but they were quite hungry after.
The fact, so it gave the shrimp the munchies, and I did have to.
Take it out because of the molding process. So I would treat it like, I would treat it like anything else, fruit or vegetable product. If you blanch it and put it in the aquarium after a day, take it out. But in this situation, instead of blanching, if once you dry it and treat it, put it in the aquarium, and after 24 hours, take, take it out. I haven't had any adverse reactions in the testing. I lost zero specimens, zero shrimp, zero fish, and I did zero water changes for any of these tests on all of my controls. And I did this on a twelve tank test on a large testing basis, over a category of ten months. Why I did this, I had, I'm.
Asking myself that exact thing right now.
I had people in the cannabis industry reach out to me saying that they wanted to make a pet product and see if they could package up product that they could sell to aquarists.
They already have. It's called catnip.
Nope. And because of the molding process, and they have to take it out of the aquarium, I recommended that they do not sell it as a product, and they were quite bummed.
Fascinating.
Yeah. So there's my research on just what, what I did and put forward of THC, and quote, unquote, THC free cannabis products. So now the stuff I haven't done is feed it in repashy. The other stuff you're about to tell us.
Yeah.
Before that, any comments on my research or questions that you had for me in my research?
No, honestly, I'm so glad to hear it, because the problem here in, is that, like, I know other people have done this, but because of, like, prohibition and legalities and all of that fun stuff, it's not published. You can't. There's no, there's no nothing. And what is available is very, like, superficial. So before I get into it, I'll kind of touch base on, like, where I started. Before, you know, any peep, people come for me about, like, local Florida. Stoner gets fish high, puts them in a box. Deal.
Local knots, Minnesota's not stoner. Just got a bunch. I mean, I filled the back seat seats of my car, cookie containers of. I went there during what they call harvest season in the fall, and they filled my car with leaves. They literally grabbed scoop shovels and, like, how much do you want? I'm like, just keep it coming, granny. You know, and I had to drive home. Like, I don't have a license for this. They do. You know, like, how am I gonna explain this? There's no butt in my car, I guess, you know?
Yeah, you're fine. Just drive safe. So this original study that I looked at before I started feeding, because I originally started using, like, raw products, and obviously it does break down, and I don't have the time to be doing extra water changes. So, like, that was immediately just like, something I was not interested in messing with. I don't keep. A lot of play goes, I don't keep shrimp. I don't. I keep snails for my puffers. So, like, I don't really have a lot of the ecosystem that would sustain having things go off like that. This study out of an Israel aquaculture farm for Nile tilapia dosed at zero, 110 and 20 milligrams, and any dose over two milligrams per kilogram, I think they were noticing reduced aggressiveness and then lowered cortisol levels and, like, a lowered stress rate from non, like, social stress. So what they're seeing is, like, a better adaptation to environmental response and, like, all of the stress involved with being farmed on an aquaculture facility that that has on a fish. And then the other aspect to it is they actually notice in doses of ten milligrams per kilogram and higher, a lower sperm count.
That was gonna be my next question.
This published study does not tell you there's no published information on the exact levels. They just tell you that it was a noted observation. It's very, very vague and superficial. I don't breed a ton of things, but I breed enough stuff to sample on. They did another bleeding study they actually do on zebra Danios. And apparently they're, like, the ideal test subject because we share an alarming amount of our genome with them. And then something like 84% of human diseases have an opposite, like a matching counterpart in a zebra Danio genotype. So they've been doing, like, studies from 1999 onward, which is, like, pretty good for how prohibition has, like, affected them being able to do actually, anything in a lab. And they didn't notice anything higher than a 20% sperm percentage. Rei. However, they're gauging this again, like, the study is pretty superficial. So after gathering that, I had to go and do my own thing. They also noticed a decrease in embryo success because doses that were high enough to be sedative. So I think they were dosing at 15 ppm or higher per gallon, lowered the tail movement, which lowered the oxygen rate for the embryo, and they were finding losses. Again, super superficial level information could not do any further on that. So I've done this with live bearers, I've done it with danios, I've done it with. What else did I do it with? I've done it with oscars, I've done it with convicts. Pretty good little sample group. And from what I noticed is I didn't have any losses on my live bearers at all. And this is over. So I'm taking if, whether I'm taking dry food or repash or whatever it is, I'm taking a distillate. This is just for, like, using a THC, a one to one THC to CBD blender. So any kind of tincture or oil, and I'm dosing this out into a week's batch of food, and I'm dividing it out as close that I can. I'm not going to put any guarantees on my dosages, but I did try to get it as to the point as I could. And then with my danios, so they're not. There's no parenting activity. Right. Notice the same thing statistically, maybe lost 15% more than I would. And that's not even. Not quite a lot. Still getting Danio's out the ass, but no noticeable difference when I'm getting them stoned. Right? Low dosage, not noticing anything different, no sedative effects. Their gills are moving fine. Anything above 1015, we're getting into that area of their slowing down and acting a little silly.
So I feel like you're telling us information that you got your fish stoned without telling us how you got your fish stoned.
She just told us.
I'm getting there. I'm getting there. So I fed them so many different things, and then it's like a whole different thing. Right? So.
And one, I did not know until this moment that fish could get stoned.
Oh, my goodness. Okay, so for anybody that doesn't know, a lot of people are kind of surprised that any like thing other than a human being has an endocannabinoid system.
Oh, I know, I know. Mammals and other things can get stoned or maybe. Maybe even a reptile, but.
So some of the earliest studies on the endocannabinoid system in, like, non vertebrate animals were actually done on hydra because they were one of the first animals with a neural system. Hydra can get stoned. Urchins can get stoned. Leeches can get stoned. Mussels, shrimp, all of these endocannabinoid systems, you can get all of these little critters that we keep in our tank stoned to the bone, which so far, high dosages, it has not proven to be lethal. I've gone a little, a little bit higher bit on, like, a high volume tank with some bigger fish, and I'm talking like 25 milligrams per kilogram and up. And they are jamming, acting a little slow, but no fatalities.
You know, one of my favorite things that happens up here in the northland. We're up here with all the snow and whatnot, but we have these, these trees in front of our house. They get these little berries, and the berries will hold on to the goddamn trees all winter long. So I got, right now, we're doing this in January. I got these two trees in front of my house, right in front of my bedroom window, and they got these little berries on them, and nobody touches these berries until spring. And in spring, April, May, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, 50 to 100 robins show up, and they start partying, and they go up and down our street for two weeks, and they empty these trees of these berries and just get hammered off their ass. And here's how we know that they're out there doing it. We hear them hitting the windows. They've run into the house. Oh, they're back. And then we talk to the neighbors and say, yeah, they're over here Tuesday, and clean out all my berries. And, I mean, they will take an entire tree, a full berries, these hundred, and they'll just be out there hammered, which is one of my most fun things I watch on National Geographic when you see the elephants getting these certain big fruits that have been fermented, and they're just having the time of their lives. And again, back to monkeys, the monkeys, same thing, and they're out there just getting hammered and seeming, they seem to really enjoy themselves doing that. And so, like, why wouldn't an animal want to be lit up once in a while, too?
Yeah, right. That's my philosophy. And as far as, like, feeding it goes, I've broken it down into, went on my endeavor with psychotropic effects. So the effects of THC. And then we've introduced this new, new concept. There's a lot of new studies on the entourage effect and whole plant benefit, and the leading studies are proving that it's not even necessarily THC. That's the cannabinoid that is getting us high. It's obviously the most well known psychoactive element that we have present in cannabis. But I don't know if you've seen people popularizing, like, THCA, which is a non carboxylized version of the molecule, or we have, like, HHC or delta nine or delta ten or delta a or all of these things. And what these are, are different cannabinoids that will work together in unison, that are all naturally present in a whole plant. But no study has been. We're not documenting this. Nobody gives a right. We're just here to grow the weed for our cancer patients.
Now, can you explain to me something? I take a gummy, two gummies every night when I go to bed, and they're hemp gummies you get from Amazon. And I've recommended this to several of my friends because as you age, I'm getting up there in age, and you go to bed and you're laying there and your ankles ache and you can't sleep, and you don't go into a deep sleep. I started taking these hemp gummies. What's the difference between hemp and THC? I don't understand why hemp is working to help me relax.
So hemp is really vague. Kind of. It just means, means non THC cannabis. Like an industrial version of the product. Right. Okay, so what you're probably, I mean, I don't know if it's advertised as like a CBD or a CBN or a CBC product. You should be able to get some kind of like, lab analysis off of there.
But I just pulled up Jimmy's hemp gummies for sleep.
I tell you, I've got three, four friends that I've recommended this to, and they've all said the same thing, is that, you know, first of all, these things are dangerous because they taste just like frickin gummies, first of all. And they're called new age advanced hemp gummies, 900 milligrams. And the first time I took them, I took one not knowing what was gonna happen.
900 milligrams of what?
Exactly?
No, no, hold on. Let me read this thing. New age advanced hemp gummies, 9000 milligrams extra strength gummies.
They have 9000 milligrams of what?
It doesn't say.
Exactly.
Doesn't say.
That's why I want to know.
Best thing. So I'm reading the ingredients. It says hemp oil, corn syrup, sugar, pectin, citric acids. So it's basically just a gummy with hemp oil. What in the hell is in the hemp oil.
Ingredient?
There's no listed active ingredients.
I sleep so good, baby, I tell you.
I mean, what the are you eating?
I don't know. That's what I'm asking you. You're the expert, babe.
No, I'm dead serious. This is a non active ingredient listed product. He's chewing down Flintstone gummies with a little bit of mystery. Hemp oil.
It's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah. So it's probably some sort of CBD may, I don't think it's. I would think if it's a delta eight product, it would be advertised as such. But that's.
And this is one.
I don't know.
I'm confused. 9000 milligrams of what it says here.
Made in the USA FDA facility, facility, GMO free. And they are literally in bear shape. You eat actual gummy bears and they.
Are sleeping delicious people. Delicious.
And it even says in the reviews, nobody knows what's in them. Nobody cares because they're gonna get in trouble when they find out. Eat them and get up.
Now, I'm gonna tell you exactly why we took these. So one of our local steak places up in Fargo, North Dakota, we go to. And they have fantastic steak. And there is a ton of salts and stuff on the steak. I mean, they have a lot of ingredients on top of the steak. And my wife is a nurse, and her and I are coming home from Fargo, and we had just had eaten there, and she's going, God, I'm getting like restless leg syndrome. And I go, I'm getting restless leg syndrome. And so I said, I'm gonna google this. I google this. What causes, you know, restless leg syndrome? And they said, a large amounts of sugar or large amounts of salt. And so then I googled, what can I do for that? And they said, take these hemp gummies. And we ordered some and never looked back. So it's been fantastic.
I like this review. Not for kids, but may knock them out.
Exactly. And the thing is, I wake up, Dalton's laughing. Dalton laughing. He's a guy that's probably still sniffing glue.
No, I'm just a guy with two kids that I need some excuses to. To knock out.
Well, here, talk to Robby. Because Robbie takes frickin benadryl, gives to his kittens. So they sleep.
Okay. That's a real story, by the way. Yeah. If you have whiny kittens and you want to knock them out, go to the vet. So you have an actual excuse that it wasn't you that said so. You're like, you just asked the vet. Yeah. When I need to get my cat, benadryl, what's the milligram? And he's like this many. And then I just give them that every night. And the kitty slept. They go to sleepy time for 8 hours.
And that's how he, that's how he went. Bill Cosby started out, and then my.
Vet later says, by the way, would you give them that stuff for? I'm like, to go to sleep. I'm like, how long they sleep? 8 hours. Like, they're not supposed to sleep that long. Like, worked their whole life. So you're talking about.
So basically, you and bill Cosby have been doing this for how many years?
All six months of it.
Exactly.
Oh, no, they're still alive. Kate. Kate, don't look at me like that.
Kate's going, I love that.
Kate's going, I can't get high enough to get this out of my head.
All right, this is, don't, don't buy.
Into the mystery f gummies. Yes. Let's talk about that example of what I mean by nobody gives a f about a cannabinoid that isn't, like, some variant of THc, like delta eight or delta ten or CBD, right? That's what we know. So when you start talking about, like, HHC and ThcO and all of these other things, people are just like, yeah, whatever. But these are, they're learning that together. This is what makes the plant so potent on, like, not only like, a medical value, but as, like, a recreational, like a psychoactive level, right? Your neurological system is only allowed to handle so much of one molecule, right? Your neuron will only accept so much THC clinging to it. But what it will accept is a THC molecule coming in and taking hold. And then here comes this CBN molecule over here taking hold, and then, oh, wait, this HHC molecule is also going to come hang out on this neuron. And that's where we're finding these whole plant benefit, much more therapeutic benefits than, as opposed to something that is just rocking to the tits with THC, which, if we're all being honest, the general public does not need. Heavy dose of THC, 34% flour, 90 plus percent concentrates. Like the day to day human being does not need a dose of THC that high. But we're living in a like, market that's designed from a medical standpoint, right? We're medicating cancer patients. We're medicating people who are terminally ill. So it's kind of changing the foundation, and that's a lot of what I utilize.
All right, last update, what I have on, I found it on the bottom of this, it says, disclaimer. While we work to ensure that our product information is correct, on occasion, manufacturers may alter their ingredient lists. The actual product packaging and material materials may contain more or less or different information that's shown on our website. We recommend that you not solely rely on the information presented here and always read the label, warnings and directions before consuming the product as you receive them.
Jimmy, please stop eating the f gummies this is the.
This is the same people. This is the same people running that f monkey farm. We're gonna raise monkeys, but we're not responsible for what the monkeys do. So if the monkeys come over and you up, it's. You're on your own.
You know what it is? It's 9000 milligrams of pure monkey piss.
I I love monkeys.
That's what it is.
Not even.
Wait.
Hold on here.
What'd you say, Dalton?
I said the placebo effect is a wonderful thing.
It is. It is. Absolutely. Hold on.
How many milligrams to a gram? That's. That's. It's a thousand milligrams.
Do I look canadian to you?
It's a thousand milligrams to a gram. Hold on. How. How much is per. Per gummy?
If I knew we're doing math, I wouldn't even showed up today.
Yep. You all right? We're. Oh, my God.
9 grams.
Kate.
Katie, 9000 milligrams.
Katie. Katie, 9000 milligrams. They're. They're not measuring anything. It's just. They're just telling you it's a gummy. They're just weighing the fummy.
That's the weight of the gummy.
That's a package right there that I can count on that. There's no lying there. They're just weighing the fucking gummy, these stuff.
Does anyone remember. Does anyone remember when that whole airborne scandal happened and they found out that they were being produced out of some nut jobs garage? And it was a teacher, probably Florida.
It was a teacher.
Whatever that. Let's blame for this.
What was a nut job? That story was great. It was a teacher that got sick of all our students getting sick. So she made a vitamin in her garage and gave it to the students and got in a lot of trouble.
And they give Bill Cosby shit. That's all he was doing, giving people stuff out of the garage.
All right, I want to get the.
One eating horrible gummy bears thinking they're putting you to sleep.
I shits my pants from northern's originals.
Oh, man.
You.
Man, I don't even want to go on that story.
All right, hold on here. So you sat there and you preached and patted to us about studies of what stoning your fish gets. And one, you broke the bubble. Fish can get stoned. You two, you didn't tell us how to get our fish stoned.
Okay, so my preferred method is an RSO product. So for anybody who doesn't know what that means, that's an extract that is water soluble. That or I'll pick something that I don't know.
So I'm looking for what, an RSO weed oil, a tincture or something?
Yeah, anything like that. And basic math. You do it by milligram per kilogram, and then you divide down, right?
So I'm not going to grab my bud that I raise in my backyard and grind it up and put it in my repashy.
No, no, no. I don't really like to use whole flour or anything like that. Come on.
I want to give it to my platos.
I mean, you can, but clean up after yourself, I guess. It's probably.
All right.
So, like, cannabis is really, really closely related to hop. So when you add it to water, you tend to get like that funky fermenty.
You don't like beer, do you?
I love beer, but I've also been around. I used to home brew a little bit, and I know what that smells like. And it's a time.
Okay, so we get this RSO, we get the oil. So what are we talking about here? And for those that have never heard of repashy, because I know you're listening some people, this might be your first podcast, and you're just. You just set up your ten gallon tank for the first time. One. I'm so sorry that this is your first podcast you've listened to. I really am. Go listen to other ones. There's a beginner episodes for sure. But if you have never heard of a product called Repashy. Repashy is a mix where you can make your own fish food. Check it out. It's actually probably some of the best quality fish food you can find out. There is a wonderful product. So check it out. I think it's rapashi.com. I know I'm simplifying it.
It's made in Minnesota.
So check out Repash. You can get it at swiss tropicals. You know, shout out to that guy. That guy's a. A gem.
Genius.
Yeah. So get yourself some repashy. And what do you do to mix it?
So I do a much lower liquid base than what the package recommends. I like mine to come out a little more like Jell O. And I've just been in that habit from keeping reptiles, right? So, like, feet to my beard, dragons feed it to my other stuff. I'm not trying to serve them like that sludgy, inconsistent mass, right? So I'll blend it down a little bit. I let it. I try to do a little bit hotter water than what most people do. I'll boil it, and by the time I'm adding my oils in or my whole plant, I'll do a lot of. They make, like, in capsules with straight up, like, powdered whatever, whether it's keef rundown or you can get, like, whole plants. So they're grinding down the stem, the leaves, and all the raw product into a capsule. So I can break those open, or I can dose out exactly how many milligrams of THC, CBD, whatever I'm doing. But it's not often that I'm getting them stoned normally, like, especially if I'm moving the puffers around, that's a stressful thing for all of them. And if you don't know this puffers, if they inflate out of water and they get air stuck in that organ that they're holding, all of their, what should be water in there, and it gets full of air, if it gets stuck, it can kill them. So picking them up and moving them tank to tank, kind of a stressful process in the whole ordeal, have yet to lose one. So that's all good stuff. But unless I'm doing something, like, stressful, we're not really. I'm not getting them high for funsies unless it's in the name of science. Right? Like, if I'm doing a podcast episode or whatever.
So you use. You're on a strict. I use pot. I use this RSO product and remix it with repashy as a tool. If I'm going to be moving fish, if I'm going to be doing something stressful, if I'm going to be introducing something and you're using it as a tool tool to, you know, chill down, you know, eat a little extra food. I want you to.
Absolutely.
So mingle.
I'm not a doctor. I'm not. It's just like my take on everything, right. Cortisol is very bad for, for us. We know this. Cortisol is bad for most things. They're tiny little prey animals that startle very easily. So I try to really, my goal is to minimize the effect that I have on that. Right. I don't want to them out. I don't want to make them in that situation where they're going to, you know, use that level of defense where they're injuring themselves or whatnot. And it's worked out pretty well, knock on wood. But I have a pretty good success rate across the fish room. It's been a pretty good time. And then other than that, I'm feeding them CBD every day. Variety is the spice of life. I think people's damnation is like diet most of the time, right? And you can apply that to anything. Even if you eat the healthiest thing on the planet every single day, you're going to run into nutritional deficiencies. Fish are probably the most opportunistic things that exist on the planet in a day. What is a fish going to run into, where it's going to at least try to take a nibble off of it, right? So, like, not getting into routine with what I feed is probably like, what I do the most, which makes consistently being like a schedule hard. They're getting something different almost every day. And I probably say within the scope of maybe like 20 to 30 different things that I'm then, like, mixing up in and like different combinations and whatnot. My fish don't just get the fish repashy, they'll get like the meat pie or whatever I'm feeding to, like, my other stuff. And they eat it the same, but it has different whole food proteins. So you get like organ mix. They're getting what is, I'm assuming like a beef heart blend and like all of that other stuff that they're including for monitors. But it's an easier delivered form. Right. You're gonna eat in the same digestible compound. But every, almost everything I feed has CBD or some sort of whole plant benefit to it, you know, and before.
People lose their freaking minds about giving this to your fish, now think about every one of your fish that you've seen at your big box stores. Those fish have all been tranquilized at least two, if not three times to get to your fish store. And what she's doing is a much more natural process than what you would do with the chemicals that they're, the harsh chemicals that they're using, using for transporting fish. You know, I've been importing for years, and you get this stuff and it looks like it's mountain Dew yellow or is full of methane blue or backhand green and stuff. And that's what they're doing with these fishes. They're giving it to them to calm them down so they don't freak out, they don't poop in the bag so much. And so what she's doing is when she's moving her fish, she's just giving them a little relaxation before they move so they're not so stressed out, which is no different. And I'm just thinking about it. I'm thinking it's much better what she's doing than what they do with the chemicals.
And something interesting I've noticed. I keep a lot of weird stuff. So I've got like a bunch of those centipoma, the african bush fish. I keep a lot of my shears which are coming in wild caught. I keep a lot of other things that are just like wild caught by nature. Right. Anything that I have to is sensitive. It's coming from a different water parameter, and I have to drip acclimate. They're getting a dose of whatever milligram I feel is appropriate, usually in the scope of ten to 20 at a time, depending on how big the animal is. And not only do I have, I'm going to knock on wood again. I have never lost anything during the acclimation process. I've lost stuff like the day after that. Just like never really ultimately adjusted well. But as far as from getting them into the tank and getting them adjusted, not only do I have an outstanding success rate there, but I've done side by sides where I'm not going to dose them. This bag, and we're gonna see how we run. And they get the ones that I dose get the munchies. They're eating first. They're adjusting to their environment better. They're getting fat first. So it has been a little bit of a benefit there. Syndrome are notorious for coming in loaded down with all kinds of parasites, and they don't really like medications too much. I normally run my trio, which is like Prazi pro, and then what am I running? Marisin Oxy and ICX usually that's my staple. And then I'll throw salt in there too. And with most things, even on my puffers, I could hit them with that set wall. And they're good. These bush fish, they really don't take well to medications. So having them be able to come in and get eating off the rip and get a little more stable has been a lifesaver. I've got a group of nine right now, and they're killing it. This is the healthiest batch I've gotten.
What do you dose when people are listening, how do you dose?
So I normally take, like, I'm going to break it down to say, like an inch to two inch fish is getting five milligrams per gallon or ten milligrams per gallon depending on how many are in there, and like gallon of what big my water.
So you're putting. I'm going for like the consumption of food. So you're getting five milligrams in n feeding whatever you're eating.
So when I'm making food, I'm dosing it, whatever milligram per kilogram, and I'll make, like, a week batch of food. So whatever dry foods I'm feeding that week, I'll break down, like, my small guy stuff and my big guy stuff, like, everybody eats out of one container or the other and do, like, the basic math. So I'll divide it down by, like, okay, I have this much weight, so that's this percentage of a kilogram. And then drop it down to my milligram percentage. And I try to get it as consistent as I can. I'm not a pharmacist. I'm not anything like that. So I'm not going to say I get it on par every time. But it's been working out okay. Depending on what solution you're using with a tincture, I usually get an even saturation rate. I don't have to add anything if I'm using, like, an RSO or something. What is that binder product people use for medication?
No idea.
There's a lot of different.
Whatever it is, you'll have to use something like that because RSO is not. It doesn't take as well. It needs a little help sometimes. I don't know what it is. I'm not sure exactly what they're suspending it in, but it doesn't take as well as, like, a tincture that's meant to just, like, dropping your tongue or whatever and go, so find a tincture.
So you're saying buy a. Yeah, buy a scale. What you're saying, yeah.
If you don't have a scale, get one. You should have one in your kitchen anyway.
That's right. It's important to get the right amount of garlic in your salad.
So five milligrams per, for the smaller fish per scallop fish.
If we're rocking, like, so, I would say maybe three to six inches. I'll kick it up to a definite, like, ten.
So have you ever maybe more on the side of fish screwed up and got your fish super doped up?
Yeah.
What happened?
So I'm going through, and I had. I don't do a lot of planted tanks, and so I had gotten, like, I've run, like, some trials trying to get into it, and it's just not really my thing. Right. But I had, like, botanical explosives in a glass dropper, and I'm going through and, like, I just did water changes. We're chilling. Let me drop a few of these in here. Right. So I'm like, a vial? Yeah, that sounds about right. I'll come back and I'm like, it's not colored. What? I'm not seeing that tint. Let me go ahead and put another f vial in. And it, in fact, was not my botanical extract. It was definitely just straight tincture that happened to look the same. And I wasn't paying attention. And, um, I could not tell you. There was probably a hundred milligrams, 75 milligrams floating around in a 32. Whatever the flugoflex is. A 32 gallon f tank with pea puffers and glass cats. And I think, like, I've got two cynodontists and shit crawls out of the rock sometimes that I'm like, oh, hey, I didn't know you were in there. And that was awful. What happened? Nothing died. They were stoned for sure. And it was kind of sad because I have probably somewhere between, like, 18 and 25 pea puffers in this tank, right? So the swarm is pretty interactive. I walk there in my bedroom. So I walk past. They. They like to see what's going on. They're normally trying to do that. They were up, they're, like, swimming sideways, and they've got those weird hummingbird fins, right? So they're just, like, off balance a little bit. And I was almost concerned, like, I don't bit know if they're, like, inflating because I've never seen the little ones puff up before. And I'm, like, kind of freaking out. I'm sitting there watching them, and I must have watched them for 3 hours and nothing. Their gills slowed down. There's definitely a slower rate of respiration. So I'm, like, dropping another air stone in the water. I'm like, I don't even know. I don't even know what to do. So I started doing water changes and, like, did another 50% after I had just done probably more like a 75 beforehand. So I'm, like, trying not to do massive water changes with my scaleless fish. Like, trying not to stress anything out. It was probably an eight hour ordeal before they started acting right again.
And they're just staring at you the entire time like, what did you do to us?
Yeah, the glass cats wanted nothing to do with me, with their shy anyway. But there's like, one of those cheap plastic skulls sitting in there, and all eight of them are just, like, crammed in this palm sized space. Want nothing to do with me. I had to turn the lights off because I was like, I don't know if they're getting like, freaked out by the light or whatnot. It was so. It was weird. And they're so small, right? They're such small fish. Like, I've got a foot long puffer that probably would have handled that fine. And it had to be my little, my little tiny dudes, my glass cats. But that's the closest, like, I think, fatal I've ever gotten.
I'm not gonna lie, the glass cats are probably one of the weakest things you could have hit with it, and they still live. So good. Good on you.
Yeah, yeah. Surprised.
I'm surprised he didn't like, come up to this, to the tank and then knock on the glass. Hey, how about a pizza? Throw a pizza in.
I was dropping them in, like. Cause that's. That's my parameter, right? Like, if you're eating, you're fine, you're fine, you're gonna live.
That's what you kept telling, if you.
Can chew, you're gonna live.
Horn snails.
How high were you during this?
We've got her on camera, it's no comments, no comment.
It was my day off. And I mean, Snoop dogg don't know, you know, Willie Nelson would have been proud. Yeah, as long as I'm eating and they're eating, we're all fine. Don't die, little buddies, because if you die, I'm gonna die for sure.
Yeah, I'm just panicking cuz like everything just keeps getting more expensive, right? So I'm like, I paid how many? I'm sitting there counting like $5 a pop for my pea puffers, right? I'm like, oh my God, my husband's gonna kill me. He's been there every time I've bought him. Like, yeah, I was scared.
Awesome. That's what's a smile on my face.
I did not expect, honestly, I'm not gonna cut a lie to you. Like, I did not expect that coming to this podcast we would get any information that fish got high. I truly didn't believe it. Like, me putting, doing the experiment of leaves, the flowers, the stems, that was not experiments. To think that for remotely fish could get high. Did not know that coming into this podcast, I just thought that, you know, there's a lot of stonies and they wanted to like, you know, have herbal botanicals in their aquarium because it'd be cool, you know, I had no idea that you could get their fish stoned. I kind of want to do it now. Yeah, I mean, there is some serious, there's like a specialty armored catfish where I could see where this would like, save a life. If you move some of these particular river monster creatures, they don't move at a certain size, period. They just pure die. They are so rare to move at a certain size because they don't travel at all well. The only way they can get these to travel is using horrible things like clove oil, which you're now balancing, I don't know, for. People know this clove oil is used for fish surgeries. You're balancing killing your fish, knocking it out and entirely, versus trying to keep it destressed and half out of it, versus you could just get it stoned and, you know, have it, have the munchies and calm the down in a bag. You know, there's options.
I really went down this rabbit hole. I haven't moved my maboo before. I got him at probably like two, three inches long, and he's easily a foot long now, and I should have water in my 150 by like next week. So I've been. He's been stoned for probably two weeks straight now because I'm trying to get this right before I move him. Very paranoid about him out of that tank and across the hall there. But we will see how it goes.
This has been fascinating. It really has been. And, you know, kudos. I love it when we get a guest on this and they admit their failures and we celebrate their successes and stuff. And you've been so much information. I thought going into this, I'm like, I wonder what's going to come of this podcast. This has been one of my most favorite podcasts that we've done. We've done over a hundred of them.
And has nothing to do with.
Thank you.
Has nothing.
A blast. I like being here.
There's nothing to do with the mystery milligram gummies you took beforehand coming to.
This, that please stop eating the gummies. If you could take anything from this, please find some different.
You know what? I'm gonna start a monkey farm up here in Minnesota, and I'm gonna do a planet of the apes thing and.
Teach them how to make.
Isn't that what they call Rob's basement?
Yeah, exactly.
He ain't stopping the gummies.
Monkeys illegal up here, Jimmy.
What?
Maybe they're totally legal.
Unless you are handicapped in a wheelchair, you cannot legally have monkeys.
You've seen me drunk enough. I. When I'm drunk enough, I'm in a wheelchair. I can't.
I mean, we got a buddy at.
The zoo, people in a wheelchair doing.
With monkeys, they use them to pick up things. They're sure that I know of. They can use them. They can like, go and get, like, pencils and get shit out of cabinets and stuff.
Yes, but in the rule, give them.
A reacher grabber, they're back to late night tv, man.
They're making sex.
Hold on.
The reacher.
The reacher grabber is what the monkeys for. It's a reacher grabber, you know? You know, I'm saying, nobody wants to see that.
Robbie.
Yeah.
You know, I've learned more about bad coochie and stuff tonight that I even chose to want to know, you know?
Well, so here's my question. Did the pea puffers, because, like, Robbie brought up clove oil, and that is to stun fish, did that, like, stop or stun them in any way, shape or form, or did just make them, like, would it. If you'd have kept it without the water changes, do you think that it would have, like, really stopped them?
Honestly, no. And I've been tempted to do, like, another run, maybe not with such a heavy dosage, but something that's definitely considered large scale.
Hear me out.
So my theory behind this is that cannabis in any form is known as a sedative, not an anesthetic. Right. Club oil itself. People recommend it to euthanize your fish. You get it on your skin. It's pretty irritating. It's not a friendly substance. So I don't think it would have had anything like that. And they never really. There was no stop. There was some slow down and some disc coordinated movement, but there was never any, like, signs of true distress, none of that spiraling or, like, floating behavior that would really start, like, setting off alarms or anything like that.
I have a test. You need to do a control. All right, hear me out fully. I'm being honest here. Get yourself, you know, maybe a 20 or 30 gallon, right? Get it set up, cycled, fully set up, and get yourself a handful, 1010 ish, upside down catfish. Treat that with like, 100 mil, you know, 100 milligram. And just if they're right side up, you know. You know what I'm saying? The right side up, you know, I'm.
Gonna make a killing selling right side up catfish.
Oh, you've got it. Do it.
You know, at that moment, you've won.
So do you think if. If you did it with a fish with a labyrinth organ that it would have problems getting up to the surface to breathe if you gave it, you know, one of those really high doses? Because you said you do the african bush fish, which I think is a labyrinth organ fish, right?
Yeah.
They are.
I believe so. And I've never hit them with a super high dose. The highest dose they've ever been hit with, with THC is when I was pulling them, like, getting them out of the bags and whatnot, and there was no. They didn't even have the same. I hit them with probably. I'm gonna say it was a little more than 15. So I'll say, like, 18 milligrams per, like, gallon of water that they were sitting. And there was not the same level of disorientation. They're usually pretty meek and mild fish. Very shy little muppet looking dudes. Not the same as. I've had probably three different batches of them come through and out and about. Not. Not as shy, not as sensitive to me having other lights on in the room. So, like, I'll have the tank up top or wherever they are off, but if I've got other stuff on in here, there's still a good amount of, like, ambient light. And then they were eating same day, like, I think I offered them food maybe an hour and a half later.
And that's.
I'm just. And I'm just wondering, like, yeah, I mean, I'm just wondering if you gave a beta or a gurami some crazy high dosage like you accidentally did that other tank. Are they just gonna sit on the bottom and be like, it?
I'm kind of curious. And, like, that's another thing that's not in my scope, right? I don't really. I'm not a beta person. I do want here, I want a giant gurami. I think I'm doing that after I move my maboo over. So maybe we're gonna have to run some experiment.
What if you took, like, a beta or gurami, you fed them the repashy weed, right? And then on top of it, right, when they get stoned, you cover the tank up, you know, some saran wrap, and then make sure that you, you know, dug Benson that shit, and fill in, like, a nice, good marijuana bake and get that good smoke in there. So when they go up, grab. Yeah. Hot box at the top. And when they get that good, you know, gulp air, they're getting that.
You know, I did. You know what? I did have a beta. Like, the first year I was doing, getting back into all this, everybody felt bad. Some jackass little kid picked up one of those beta. Beta cups at a petco, and it was one of, what do they call him? They're like, a mustard beta or whatever. He was cute and I was like, mmm. And I copped this beta from this kid. I definitely shamelessly did that and took this beta home. And he's in one of those, or was in one of those 50 gallon flubile, flexes, the little cubes, and it sits on my dining room counter. So there were several times where, like, I'm walking by and he's like a yo, it's that bitch that brings the food. So he comes zooming up to the surface, and I just lean over and they've got the lid with the food opening. So I would just. And he got the surface of the water, but I never saw him get, like, faded. He was never, like, stoned, but he would hit the water. Repetitive times, like, amateur come back, he wouldn't hit it and then run away.
Amateur hour.
Amateur fish.
Yeah.
I'm wondering, could you put some, could you put some of the liquid in one of those little ultrasonic foggers that some people put in paludariums?
You know, that's c. Hold on.
Light bulb moment. Light bulb moment.
Hold on. We gotta be careful because if you put oil residual on top, that you're not gonna get a mouthful. So, you know, but the other thing.
Is, is those ultrasonic foggers have a tendency to get really, like, that oil would probably mess with that top of.
It, and it, they do make, like, dry herb vaporizers. So you could probably just take the hose off of that.
There you go.
You get those and a giant Grammy, and that thing will be living its best life.
I can't wait for the phone calls, the emails we get from people. You're kidding, right?
Outrage.
Yes, we were, we were kidding.
All right, just a disclaimer at the end of the podcast here. We are not telling you to give any cannabis products to your fish. This is all, uh, or children. People have done this at their own risk, own expense, and, uh, purely for, uh, the sake of, uh, this is for purely helping their, their pets. Yeah, don't, uh, don't do what you don't know on the supervision of without the supervision of experts. Uh, Jimmy?
Yes.
Any questions?
No, I've, you know, I got to talk about my favorite stuff today, fish and people's gummies. Monkeys.
We know in.
Yeah.
Adam, how about you? I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
I'm done, I'm done. I wash my hands of this. Is this one of those podcasts, Adam, where you feel like you need to, like, crawl in the shower and curl up in the fetal position? I just cry a little bit.
No.
That.
No.
Okay, that's good.
All right. Dalton.
No, I I think we need a fish room tour at some point, but other than that, no, I had a hell of a lot of fun.
This has been fascinating.
For those that want a fish room tour, you can directly pay Katie at her paypal if you message her in discord. Her username is Bones. That is between you and her. And to accept her money, find her on a discord. The link is in the description. Katie, any last remarks? Anything we missed?
No, I think we covered it all. This was very fun. Thank you for having me.
It was an honor. Any last shout outs you want to give to someone?
Um, I think I'm okay. Thank you.
Hey, Katie, where are you buying your fish? Because, I mean, you've got some interesting stuff that you don't see a lot at pet stores. Who's your local pet store guy that you want to give a shout out to?
So, my local fish store is a mom and pop shop. They do, like, dogs, cats, everything. And then the person I get my fish from the most is actually in the server. He. He works for Lucky's aquarium out of Massachusetts. That's where my maboo came from. That's where several of my best years came from. Wonderful, wonderful livestock from them. Great people.
Great.
And shout out to your husband for letting us commandeer you for two and a half hours.
Yeah. Tolerating me and my fish nonsense, indeed.
Well, I have no other notes other than I'm definitely throwing away this ditch weed because I think it's finally gotten all of its comedic value out, and no one's going to consume it.
That's not gonna happen.
It's disgusting.
I think you should smoke it all, Robbie.
I refuse to smoke anything. I smoked a house once when I was a kid, and my lungs are ruined. So I don't. I don't smoke drugs and I don't drink. I only consume Vicodin when I. My wife lets me. Here we go.
That. That escalated in a hurry. I don't do anything but Vicodin.
God.
Maybe some oxycodone.
I had a kidney stone two weeks ago. My wife gave me a vlog. Oh, my God. I wanted a kidney stone again. It was so good. There's little, little things on this planet better than bacon. I'm not gonna lie to you people. Well, on that note, you know, if you like the content you're listening to, do not cut that out. You like what you're listening to? Check us out on a patreon. Come to discord because it's cheaper and you get the same content. If you have a discord subscription, it's in the link, in the description and helps pay for this podcast and help pay Dalton for his hours of editing this. This trash. Because trust me, if you listen to the unedited stuff, you would know how much he has to go through. So thank you, Dalton, and please, please get baked tonight. Bye, friends. Thanks, guys, for listening to the podcast. Please go to your favorite place where podcasts are found, whether it be Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, wherever they can be found. Like subscribe. And make sure you get push notifications directly to your phone so you don't miss great content like this.
Hold on, wait a minute. Fish are kind of cool.
I shoved one up my butt.
Massive.
They be packing.
We got enough problems in Florida without some mountain dew, hopped up weed smoke and hillbillies.
Okay, stone to the bone.
And you gotta get your pre drunk on.
He's a day walking, normie.
Math hurts.
Goldfish are trash.
What's wrong with dirty coochie?
I want to see that weight.
I got your grandmother drunk to keep.
Him from being big, ugly bitches.
You people.
Do I look canadian to you?
Just rock into the tits.
I am a bitch. Yeah.