Hello, and welcome to our weeb theria, an exploration and edging location in anime. I am your anime idiot, patrick dugan.
I am an anime expert, dana hollander.
And I'm your anime, Olivia benson. brenda mccullough.
I don't even know what that is.
Dana, not you too. I get dugan. I expect very little from dugan on this podcast in general.
Okay.
You're the enemy, idiot.
He's so.
Detective Olivia benson from Law and Order svu. Done. Done. He's produced by Dick Wolf. Come on, Wolf. Dick. All right. Is this what it feels like to be on the other end of it?
Do you know what it feels like? Love. All right. We're derailing so fast.
I do have to give Brendan some credit for calling me the anime idiot this week because we already recorded this episode. And then I got a new computer and lost the audio.
This is going to be fun.
If only we could go back in time and fix my mistake.
Wow. We're going to be experiencing so much deja vu this time.
This shows about time travel because as.
Dana pointed out, all my data got erased.
I'm going to have to quit the show. I can't take this anymore. This is totally this is telling me.
So yeah, we're watching erase this week again for the second time.
Yeah. I was kind of tempted if we should watch different.
At least we're honest.
Yeah, that would have been interesting. That would have been good to tell you guys ahead of time.
But yeah. This was brendan's Pick.
Yeah.
What is your history with the show?
I believe I just started watching it when it first came out because it got pretty popular right off the bat. I don't know if the manga is as popular, but at least the anime of it got a lot of attention real early. So I was just like, huh? Everyone was talking about this and let me see what this was about and just watched it when it came out two years ago or three years ago now.
Oh, my time keeps on slipping.
The first episode we're recording in 2019.
And we fucked it up.
Start now. We start low. So we can only get better off from this point.
You're right.
But yeah. So I just jumped on board with this when it aired, and I love it. It's one of my favorites. It's, I think, twelve episodes total. So we're going to watch, like, a quarter of it. So it's short, sweetened, to the point, and I love it.
Next. And dana, do you have any experience with this show?
Not really. I saw, like, blurays and dvds of it around the studio when we worked there because they had dubbed it and I knew it existed. But I never watched it, so don't know anything about it. I mean, I do now, but I.
Didn'T yeah, I was also going in blind until now. I've seen these episodes already.
This is going to be an interesting one because we'll see how much we remember. Because I didn't rewatch this.
Yeah, I rewatched the second and third episode. Since episode one was mostly set up.
I only rewatched the first one. So whoo.
Little balance above everything.
Let's see how good our memory brendan just remembers. I remember all. It is my burden and blessing.
All right, so shall we hop on in again? Here we go. We're going to watch the show. Oh, wow. We just watched all these episodes again. Totally for the first time.
We just watched all these episodes again for the first time.
Don't embarrass me in front of the listeners.
We talked about this.
This episode is going to be a mess, and I'm here for it.
Great.
We're going to just dive right into episode one, hidden.
All right, so in episode one, we are introduced to our protagonist, satoru. He is an aspiring manga artist. And we start off with him just tearing up his manga because some dude told him that he wasn't good enough.
You ain't shit, kid.
Because he doesn't yeah, he ain't shit. He doesn't dig deep enough. And readers of manga want the manga to dig deep into their emotion.
I mean, write what you know. You can't just go surface level.
Yeah, I don't know. Most I read is fantasy. So you can't know that.
You can't know because the pirate king love gina. From the brilliant mind of my Santa.
We bring you anyway, not talk about.
Any of that ever again.
Hey, this year we are not discussing that show.
I'm sorry. We're leaving it in 2018.
We're leaving it in 2018.
That will never be revisited.
Unlike this show, that part of our lives is erased.
Can you imagine if we had to rerecord that one?
Anyway.
Dwelling on better shows.
I know. So he's also monologuing about how he is afraid to dig deep. He doesn't want to delve into himself. So he rethinks some things and he gets a job as a pizza delivery boy. It's pizza time.
I sing the tune, but I do not know it. The pizza pizza time tune. It's spiderman.
Oh, I thought you said you didn't know what it was a reference to. Yeah, it's spiderman.
Yeah, it does that like a time toby Maguire. So fucking derailed this episode. Sorry.
Hey, 30 minutes is a promise, man.
I mentioned spidey sense later on. It's fine.
Okay, good.
So he goes off on a delivery from the pizza shop. Cute high school girl, iri tells him not to eat the pizza yaheer. And I hate that. I feel like I hate that because the yaheer is like, most definitely to fill mouth flaps.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I'm just realizing that now and I hate it.
You got me. That wasn't necessary. You could cut that out.
So he is on his way to deliver a zaw, and he has this.
Yes, just keep going.
The zaw. You don't like the zaw.
No. As a former pizza delivery boy, it hurts me.
Oh, gotta stay up with a fresh slang.
Yeah, you old man.
This is my show.
The kids talk about it.
Oh not be attacked on my own episode.
This is my time.
This is my time. The 80s where I shine.
Okay, so he's delivering pizza, and this thing happens that he later calls revival, where it is also accompanied by a.
Very jarring noise, like an inception.
Blair like, it definitely is just as bad the second time. Less surprising, but still, like, it's a choice. So he gets sent back like a couple of minutes, typically to find something that is about to go wrong, and he fixes it. So in this particular instance, there is a man who had a heart attack at the wheel of his truck, like a, uhaul, kind of truck, and he is going to hit a child. So satoru takes it upon himself to save this child and in doing so gets hit. And he's like on like a scooter. And he is hit head on by a car. Oh. shocks.
He almost dies.
Mom.
Mummy.
The pizza.
And the pizza is ruined.
Pizza'S. All this shows about the pizza. We're going to follow this pizza from birth to death. Oh, we already did.
And it's dead.
Shows over.
He got to go back in time and fix the pizza.
So his life is flashing before his eyes and he's like, wow, guess I'm dying. And then he sees a little girl in a red coat, and he's like, hoopst, hoomst. And then he wakes up and it turns out he didn't die. He was just in a coma for a couple of days. How unfortunate. Just kidding. I'm glad he's still alive. Without him, there'd be no show.
True.
And no more pizza.
No more pizza. Oh, you know what I realized also this time? I watched the English dub again. And he says specifically, he's like, he says that she's young, but he also says, like, there's no way that girl is interested in me. And I'm like, she's at high school.
Of course.
Of course she's not. You're 29.
You're an old man to her. Hey, Alex.
So she's there. She's like, hey, what's up, homie? Glad you're alive. Do you know who you are and why you're here? And he says, yes, he knows who he is. And he got hit by a car. And she's like, all right guess I'm.
Going to go making sure you're not dead.
Yeah. And they talk about their dreams. She says, like, don't you want to know why I work at the pizza place? And he's like, no, don't really want.
To keep it a secret because if you tell me, your goal and dream won't come true.
Like a birthday.
Yeah. And then she says, well, I feel like if I tell people my dream, it's more likely to come true. And I agree. Put that into the universe. That's the secret.
Like a birthday.
A birthday?
I don't know.
You mean like a wish?
Your birthday does not happen unless you wish for it. That's why you blow out the candles.
Every day.
365 days.
No, I know what I said. I just know it's wrong.
All right, so he he just, like, goes home.
Yeah, he walks home.
After he wakes up, he walks home. He gets to his apartment, and his mom is there. 52 years old, an angel. I love her.
Gorge.
Sachiko. I think that's it.
I just wrote mom.
Yeah, it's his mom. And she's like, I went to the hospital, but I got bored of watching you sleep, so I came here, and now I'm going to stay here. Because you got hit by a car.
She also smokes and drinks heavily, and it's just brutally honest with everything.
For someone who smokes and drinks heavily. They keep emphasizing she looks like she's, like, 20.
Yeah, she hasn't aged since 1988.
She's being pretty. Sorry.
I wonder why.
Because character models are expensive.
They just cut her hair and said, move on.
Pretty much.
So she's hanging out there, and that night, she's watching TV, and there's a news broadcast talking about a little girl who was missing. And she shows up a few days later walking along the side of a road, and satoru's mother asks him if he remembered the kidnapping and murders from when he was ten. And he's like, repressed that memory. Mom, thanks.
Thanks for bringing that back.
So he remembers it, and he remembers specifically having a friend that he called yuki, but his name wasn't actually yuki, and he's, like, a 20 something year old.
He was, like, a shy young adult who just connected with him because they were both loners.
Yeah. So he this 23 year old man with a ten year old friend, was shocker accused of the kidnaps and murders and was thrown in prison.
I mean, we all got a ten.
Year old, so he's been there, right?
Like, that's not weird.
Do you I mean, do we need to reevaluate this whole hey, brenda, can we talk?
It's a dog. It's a ten year old dog.
Okay, that's fine. It's a 70 year old.
It's a 70 year old. He's my grandpa. Wait a minute. It's a different anime. Let's move on.
Yeah, so turn my page.
ASMR.
So he and his mom, the next day, some other day, they go to the grocery store, and satori was kind of looking around. He sees a little kid that dropped his ice cream on the ground. He sees a girl, she like, let's go of some balloons, and they fly away. And then he gets another revival. And he's, like, looking around, and he just can't put his finger on what's going on. And he's like, hey, mom, do you notice anything weird? And she's like, what are you talking about? You used to say that when you were a kid. Maybe I should look around, pay attention to your awareness. So she looks around, and she sees a guy walking away with a little girl. And he meets her eyes, and he continues walking to his car with her, but he leaves her outside of the car and drives away. And then they run into high school friend Iri, and she invites her back for curry, and they're hanging out, having a good time. sashiko asks if Iri is interested in satoru, and she's like, no. I think of him as, like, a treasured friend.
Please marry my dumb, weird son.
Please, Teen. Please marry my dumb into.
Please marry my boy.
Very adult child. He's got nothing else going for him.
And also, as they're walking home, you kind of see that that guy is, like, watching them from his car. Not really following them, but watching them. And satoru takes Iri to the station or wherever afterward, and the next day or again some other day, some non specific day in the future.
Sure.
Satoru'S mother is at the store again, looking at produce as you do. As you do. And then she's thinking about the guy that she saw, and she's like, his eyes are so familiar. And I'm like, how did you see his eyes? He was wearing sunglasses.
His special eyes is a witch. Oh, yeah. She keeps calling out a tutorial on it, like, exactly what he's thinking at that moment. So it's like a running joke in the show that she's a witch that can read his mind.
I love it. Like, the first time he says it, he just goes, witch, witch. And I just love that.
The most comedy in this show.
Yeah. So she realizes that this guy is the murderer of those kids from when satoru was a kid. So she actually has, like, a piece of paper. I didn't notice this the first watch, but she has a specific little piece of paper with a phone number on it that she calls and says, like, I know it's been a long time, but that's all we hear from that.
It's been a while since I say murder.
One week since you looked at me. So she goes home, and she's thinking about how she has to tell saturu everything that happened, because I guess now she knows everything that happened.
She deduced it.
She deduced it. A regular old sherlock homie. And she hears the door open and closed, and she's like, satoru, you're home. And it's not satoru. And she gets stabbed.
Danked.
Yeah, they do my favorite trope of murder mysteries where it's like, I solved it. The case. It's all figured out in my mind. Let me reach out and tell someone. Oh, and I was just stabbed.
Yeah.
So the beautiful 52 year old angel witch.
There's a lot going on.
And that's murdered.
I know. I didn't know where it was going. I just kept saying things.
We got.
So she's murdered, and she's, like, reaching for her cell phone. She's like, I have to call him. But the guy, whoever it is, grabs her cell phone before she can, and she dies. And then satoru is walking up the steps to his apartment, and as he does so, he passes the guy that killed his mother, and he tips his fedora at satoru.
I don't know if we made a.
Joke last time, but murderer. And he's just like, huh, all right, weird. And then he goes into his apartment, and he's like, hey, Mom, I didn't hear this last time either. He says, like, you can't leave the door unlocked.
Yeah. Someone dangerous might come in here and murder you.
Yeah. And then he opens the door to the room she's dead in, and he goes, mom, this isn't funny. And it's just like, oh, classic mom.
Classic mom with a prank. They're faking her own death.
Always a card, by the way.
Not only is she a witch, she's got jokes.
She's got jokes. She's got them. yucks. There's a lot of blood for what we assume is a single knife wound. Unless you just went to town on her off camera. It's a lot of blood.
It is. Yeah, but I'm no murderer, so I don't know how much blood there would be.
I watch a lot of cannibal.
I like how that was your first thing? Not like a doctor or anything. Well, I thought doctor just watch people bleed out. Well, I thought doctor something a murderer would say.
Dana, don't call me out right now.
I figured it out. I'm going to tell someone. Oh, no, I'm getting stabbed right now.
Oh, no, I'm right behind you, stabbing you.
Oh, God.
Also, dead mom club. Check dead mom club.
What's? John benet ramsay's. Mom's name. patsy.
I'm sorry, what?
I don't know.
I can make references, too. So when Johnny ramsay's body was found, her mother threw herself on the body and ruined any evidence that might have been on it. Like DNA wise. So he bends down and touches his mom and gets her blood all over his hands. And then his neighbor comes over to return a pot that some curry was in, and she thinks that satoru murdered his mother.
Oops, classic misunderstandings.
So the cops come, and instead of complying and going downtown with them, so he can be like, no, I did not murder my mother. He runs, and then he gets a revival, and instead of being sent back five minutes or whatever, he's sent back to 1988, and he is ten years old again.
Hey, I know your mom just got murdered, but you're a child now. Good luck.
Congrats.
Yeah. The first time I was watching it, I was like, okay, murder mystery. Cool.
Got it.
Got to prove he's innocence. But once it was a time traveling kid cop, I was so on board.
With this show into it. This is the only kid detective. I'll take no, Angus.
Yeah, I was about to say Donald Dare, you precious son.
You don't like Detective conan, which has almost 1000 episodes of an anime.
Yeah, I was going to say I don't fucks with Detective conan.
Sorry, camille.
Anyway, ending song is reread by Generation and it's the pros fucking song. Sorry, I just really like the song. It's used in one of the full metal alchemist openings. It's just so fucking good and I listen to it every time.
No, it is pretty good, I'll give you that.
Such a jam.
This one's a good one.
So, yeah, episode two. We start with satoru in his kid body. He is back in 1988, and he's at school and he's trying to go about his day, trying to figure out what the hell just happened. Because normally revivals take him back like a minute at most. And he flashed back 18 years.
Sure. You know, five minutes, 18 years. Tomato, potato.
Yeah, tomatoes, it's all the same. Tomato, spaghetti, hot mac and cheese. What is happening?
I'm falling apart.
This is all my fault.
Every time we re recorded, it gets worse and worse than Train of Thought.
Anyway, he goes to school, we got some classic time travel shenanigans of oh no, I can't remember where I sit. Let me sit in the wrong seat and stuff as he readjusts to being a small child, ten years old. And then he leaves school to run home because he needs to go find his mom. He sneaks in and is hit with the nostalgia of being in his childhood home one more time. So he finds his favorite toy mask, and he falls asleep on the floor of his bedroom. Just so exhausted from everything that's happening. Just a sweet little boy, just a little tight. I'll tuck her down. And then his mom comes home and he's so relieved to see her live. And she looks identical to when we last saw her 18 years later.
So beautiful. I got emotional.
She's got a ponytail now. That's how you know she's young.
She's hidden with if you've lost someone you love very much, just like imagine getting to see them again.
I hope to one day see Christopher Lee again.
Who?
What? Christopher Lee? soron from I got you.
I'm sorry?
The dentist in the Bad Willie Walker chocolate factory.
He was a Nazi hunter in World War II.
Okay, I'm sorry. Yes, I know who that is. After Duke said the scary dentist father for Charlie and the chocolate.
That was the reference. No, he's done so much for Count dooku. Count dooku?
Count dooku. Sorry.
He saw the last public guillotine in France. Shit, yeah, he's living he's lived a crazy life.
He is metal as hell.
Oh, he's the best.
Anyway, I was so focused on the.
Fact that you said guillotine that I didn't even realize what you said. That's incredible.
He's crazy. Anyway.
So his mom comes home and cooks some dinner. And he's like, I neglected all this stuff. I'm going to actually appreciate it this time. And sort of vows that something relating to his mom's death is dealing with this time period where all the kidnappings and murders happened. So the next day, he sees cayo, who is one of the girls who disappears and is murdered. And he decides he's going to try to solve the case and try to fix everything to hopefully save his mom.
Quick note I'll say between episode one and two, at least the first time I watch this is the quickest. I've turned around on a character with his mom of being like, I don't really like her that much. And I mean, like, she is the best character and the best mother and does everything. She's much warmer and kinder back when he was a child and doesn't drink or smoke or anything. And just it's a very good mom.
She's a good mom too. She just has a shit 29 year old son.
He'll lose hope quick. But yeah. So he sees kyo and he starts to investigate and asking a little bit more about her since they weren't like close friends when they went to school. She was just the quiet girl. She is also a child of a single mom, so they sort of have this connection, but they never really got to know each other. So naturally, as they are middle schoolers, he starts asking about a girl and everyone thinks that he is in love with her. So he's chatting with his friends and they're like.
A cop sirens driving away in the distance.
Everyone is like, oh, you're in love with her. Let me set you up. So they meet after school and he's like, hey, I want to be your friend. And she's very skeptical since she's sort of bullied by everyone in the class. She is hesitant to get close to this person who has never showed interest before.
Do they say why they make fun of her? Because she's very cute and dresses nicely.
She is poor. They mentioned one of the rich kids that bullies her later on. They're like, oh, she's the poor kid. So she's quiet. She keeps to herself, so she gets bullied.
You have no money.
That's your fault. Small child.
Idiot. Poor idiot.
In contrast to your name, where the main characters made fun of for being the mayor's daughter and having too much money.
We literally had like the same discussion in the Marine episode, but it's just the other side of the coin.
Kids are shit. Don't make fun of anything for any reason whatsoever.
If you're vaguely different in any way, you get bullied.
If you're buddha. If you're buddha, you have a dot on your forehead.
Kids are the worst. Can we just acknowledge that sometimes you just want all shitheads?
You just want to kidnap him and murder a few of them. Right, guys?
Oh, no. No, you just mentioned you had a ten year old friend.
No, it's a dog.
Brandon is on a watch list now.
Oh, I've been there for a while.
I'm calling the police.
He tries to become friends with her, and she is being aloof and asks, Would you kill for me? Which is very ominous and spooky.
Yeah. She keeps calling him out for being like, fake me. Why do you want to be friends with me now? What is your motivation? Why are you here? Kind of knowing, like, something happened and this isn't genuine.
Yeah, you can't just be friends.
No, it's weird.
So they sort of go their separate ways, and he is sort of devoting himself to this. He's thinking to himself in a bathroom, and two kids get into a pee fight, which is great. They're just at the urinal, and they're peeing on each other because they're middle schoolers. And it's like, that's so terrible.
I mean, it's not just straight pissing on each other. It's kind of like trying to tag each other with it and kind of playing chicken with the pee. It's not better when I try and describe it.
Yeah, especially since you just said you want to murder children.
Yeah, who doesn't these days?
The evidence builds. Your Honor, I'd like to be excused from this courtroom in which this audio is being played right now.
Next week, we're going to be watching Phoenix, right? Where I'm on trial.
He talks to the smart, cool friend of the group and yeah, Kenya. And he is like, hey, I notice you're being more interested in cayo. I know something's up, because, number one, you're acting a little bit weird, which satoru is a little caught off guard because he's like, oh, he knows I'm a 29 year old and a ten year old body.
How do you figure it out?
Can you stop it?
Also.
Because there was an essay that cayo wrote the other day that was sort of a clear cry for help, and I sort of glossed over it, but satoru notices that she has, like, bruises all over herself that she tries to hide. So there is something messed up with her home life. So satoru goes home and reads the essay that cayo wrote, and it's all about, like, I just wish that I could leave and live on an island with no one else and be on my own. I wish it was a town where everyone forgot I was here to that effect of just clear, I don't belong here. I want to go away.
And I believe the subtitle of the entire show is a town without you, which is kind of what she was saying in the essay. Like, I wish this town didn't have me. I wish I was somewhere else.
Yeah. So he reads that and is like, oh, shit. Stuff is messed up. Let me double down my effort to befriend her. So he asks his mom that his birthday is coming up. He wants to have a party and invite people over for the first time and says, I want to have my five friends over. And his mom was like, yeah, totally. And then later on when they're in bed, she's like, counting on her fingers. And she's like, Wait, you have four friends? Do you have a girlfriend too? And this is another witch moment where he gets caught.
I love her. I love her so much.
She's a very good character.
Counting on her fingers how many friends her son has.
I mean, it's not hard. You got the big one. She can count the nerdy one.
She can count on one hand how many friends her son has, but you.
See her using both hands, like trying to figure out the math, I guess. She's counting all the kids in his class and trying to deduce who it is.
Got to use that witch math. So after school the next day, he follows cayo to the park, and they talk more about how he wants to be her friend and he was serious about it and he's not going to let up. And cayo mentions that she notices that he's being fake, and he thinks again, oh, no, she's on to me. I'm a 29 year old and a ten year old body. But it's more she knows she's got to, but she's talking about how he also isn't social and just wants to be on his own all the time, but just fakes friendships and being a positive person to be a member of society. And he's like, yeah, you get used to it. It's a lot easier. It's easier to open up once you got to fake it till you make it, basically and put it in the social aspect.
I love that relatable shit.
He invites her to the birthday party and she says something. I forget what it was. That makes him flashback to the pizza team.
It's like saying your dream out loud and trying to manifest it into the universe.
Yeah, so there is some parallel set up between the two of them. And then she's starting to become friendly and is like, hey, thanks for talking with me. And he's like, yeah, no problem. It's because I decided to be honest with you. And he thought that and being a dumb ten year old blurts it out, which is kind of messed up, being like, yeah, I chose to be nice and honest with you. So she calls him an idiot and runs off.
I decided to lie to you this time like I do with everyone else in my life. Ha ha.
Yeah, I'm full of deceit and lie, but not this moment.
I like it as far as love.
So, yeah. He vows that he is going to solve the murder because he realizes.
Yeah.
I think it's in this episode, he realizes that when she died, she was ten, but her birthday. Is coming up. So the murder is between this date, wherever he realized it, and whatever her birthday was. So it gives him a window. So he vows to solve the case in that time.
Yeah, and also when he gave her the invitation for her birthday party, they don't only hold hands, but they kind of press hands up against each other because he's saying, like, oh, your hands are cold. She's like, Why don't you wear your mittens? I don't have any. It's like, Why don't you wear yours? He's like, oh, I lost him because I'm a dumb child. So you get that little physical contact, little touching moment of them building relationship.
Little touching moment of them touching.
Okay.
They're just touching hands.
So flirty.
It's cute and innocent. They just touching hands, talking about how cold they are.
Talking about being a liar, about your happiness, the cute, flirty stuff, how much.
It sucks to be poor. I think Saturday is in the same housing as she does, so I don't know if it's, like, poor housing, but it's like a studio with, like, one extra room and his mom and him share it, so I don't know if he's actually any poorer than she is, but she gets made fun of for it.
Yeah, I think they're sort of in a similar boat, but he has adapted a little bit more into being social.
Yeah, because he has a loving mother.
But yeah, that's about all for episode two.
Then we get the ending song, which is oh, yeah, I would call a melancholy bop. It's like a nice, chill, sad jam, which is a weird combination of words.
Yeah. I actually paid attention to the English translation of the lyrics this time because they were just subtitles as they went through. And yeah, it's pretty touching and sad and emotional.
I love both the music in this the two songs in this entire show.
The both of the music?
Both the musics. It's not a very music heavy show.
It's mostly murder, but they do it well. Yes. No music. Just murder.
Just murder.
Murder over music.
Which is why I made the law and order seu comparison. Don't bump, because that's not music. That doesn't count on music. Anyway, episode three. So, yeah, it starts off with satoro realizing he's got the time frame now, so it's just from now to whenever her birthday is. So he's like, if I can figure out when her birthday is, that'll be like, the end point. He doesn't know if she was murdered on her birthday, but it was definitely before it. So they give him more time to work with. And the episode starts off with them at school, I guess it's gym class outside, and since it's in the winter, there's snow and ice everywhere, so they're having little ice skating races in their class, and they see a few kids going. And then Satori realizes he's up against the hockey kid, the kid who's, like, known for being really good at hockey. In the first episode when he goes back in time, initially, he sees a giant whatever, the middle school ice hockey championships or finals happening soon. So it's like hockey is a big thing for their school and for this region.
They won the national championship the year before, and he was like the star player.
Okay, that was it.
I'm having intense deja vu because we corrected Brendan on this last time.
It's almost like my memory shit.
Wow.
It's almost like when you forget what happens in the past, you repeat what you did last time.
Destination where that sound effect is so turned up against Hockey kid, his name's not really relevant. So I'm just going to keep calling him hockey kid.
Hamada sure think.
And so all the girls in his class are rooting for hockey boys, saying like, he's the best. He's going to win. It's easy. Look at this nerd. He's not going to win. What a dork. And they start teasing cayo about it, saying like, oh, your boyfriend going to win. Is he going to win in the race for you? And she kind of just goes up this tour and say, like, hey, when he's like, all right, we'll do.
Don't embarrass me out there.
Yeah, yeah.
I like it very much because she's not like, ew, he's not my boyfriend. She's just like, hey, do it.
Shut these bitches up.
Yeah. Because she's going to support him because they're friends, and I love friendship.
You're my man. Then I don't date a loser.
Dang.
So as they're racing, satori realizes he's getting a little ahead. And at the last second, he's like, I'm not a hockey player. I'm not a big skater. Like, this guy is like, it would really suck if the loser in class beat the best hockey player in an ice rate skating race. So he kind of pulls back and right at the very end and lets him win, thinking like, yeah, he earned it. He deserves it. He works for it more than I do. I'm just out here once whenever the hockey kid comes up to him, lifts him up out of the collar, and it's like, what the hell was that? I know you pulled the race. Like, I know you threw it and lost to me on purpose. You disgust me. And throws it to the side, saying even more annoyed that he lost. And so torto realizes he did the exact same thing 18 years ago. So that's when it kind of rewards. Like if he's not remembering everything that he's doing in this flashback, he might repeat it, and anything he repeats could lead to the same death as before.
He has to stay on his toes and vigilant to not fall back into his old behavior.
Exactly. So that's when it kind of gets a snap into reality. And as he's walking away, oh, there goes gravity. God damn it.
I'm so sorry. I think I'm just really tired. I woke up really early today.
So he's walking away. He's like a coyote and basically trying to like, hey, I lost the race, but it happens sometimes. I tried my best. And she's like, you said you wouldn't lie to me anymore. Why are you still doing it? And kind of just leaves him at that and walks away, kind of saying, everyone could tell he threw the race on purpose, and in the earlier episode, he promised to be honest with her. And it's at that moment that his other friend starts coming down the stairs. Hero, who is actually a girl. It's not very apparent.
Is that surprising to you?
No, but I think one of the characters that maybe in the later episode mentions, like, oh, I didn't even realize that was a girl. I thought it was one of your friends, because it's all boys hanging out, so I thought it was just one of the boys. And the murderer was specifically kidnapping and targeting young girls. So that's why people were like, oh, I'm surprised they were a target, because I didn't even know it was a girl. So Hero comes down, and it's kind of like, oh, that sucks. He kind of got chewed out by cayo, but maybe we could hang out and walk home together, like, hang out in the forest. I'm just trying to be a good friend. So I was like, I got to go, and just bails immediately because he's so focused. He's kind of a dick sometimes. So he goes running back to the teacher's lounge to try and look at, I guess, just, like, the student log or student book to try and find out kayo's birthday. So that way he's got an exact date because she wouldn't tell him. Every time he tried to talk to her, she blew him off, especially after he lied to her. So he sneaks into his teachers lounge, and his teacher catches him, like, oh, what are you doing? I think she's being abused at home. I think there's something wrong. I think her mother might be abusing her. And this is when we find out. The teacher pretty much agrees, and it's like, yeah, I tried calling Child Services, and every time I call them, they just happen to not be home, and nothing can really get done unless there's, like, a certain amount of interviews with them. He's going through all the official channels, and nothing's working, and he's not really sure what else he can do.
I don't trust him.
Yeah.
I think this scene comes a little bit later because there are two scenes where he's in this teacher's lounge.
Really?
I think this first one is when he realizes that they have the same birthday. Yeah, because I think, oh, you're right. I'm derailing a little bit.
No, you're right.
I want to get too ahead.
Yeah, I'm looking ahead. My notes, and you caught me.
That doesn't change my trust level of the teacher. I still don't trust him. And I think he murdered those children.
Yeah. They keep being like, oh, he's so cool. He's so intuitive. He always knows what's going on. He's a cool teacher. They do paint him to be such a great guy, which never goes great in murder mysteries.
But it's also not hard to impress a ten year old student.
True.
I know what video games are. It's like, he's a cool teacher.
I'm going to say something, and you can cut this out if you want, but I watched episode four, and in episode four, a bunch of girls go up to him and that bully girl talks about how she hates how they, like, flirt with him. So, like, the girls are obviously into the teacher. So that's just more detective work. Me trying to figure out who the murderer is and how I think it's.
Definitely the teacher spooky, suspicious and gross.
Yeah. But yeah, so when he's in teachers lounge, sort of figures out that they actually have the same birthday. His birthday is the same as the kayas. So he's like, oh, now I know for sure. I have exactly X many I think it was like eleven days, something like that. Yeah. So he's kind of like, oh, shit, that's much less time than I thought there would be. So he goes running off to try.
And oh, I think it's like February 15 when he finds out.
Yeah. So it's been a few days already. So he goes off to try and find kaya to spend as much time as possible with her, and he goes looking at the park where she's usually hanging out to avoid going home. She's not there. But he finds yuki, who is his buddy who flies, like, not paper airplanes, like model airplanes, like little model ones.
He is the man who was pinned for the abductions and murders.
He's the adult person with a ten year old friend.
Yeah, I mean, it's not great. He's not the murderer. We all know this by now, but yeah, it's still not great.
Gene, you can't be friends with a 28 year old albino man.
Yes, I can. So he's hanging out with Yukik and they go back to his place and just chat for a bit. And he's like, Why are you hanging at the park? And like, why are you friends with everyone, all these kids? Because he asked, oh, do you know Cayo? And he said, oh, yeah, I know her too. She's quiet. She seems like maybe a troll and home life or something. Which is unfortunate, but yeah, she's always nice when I talk to her. He's like, oh, why are you at the park? Why do you talk with all these kids? He said, oh, well, I get up with my dad to work at the ramen shop or something.
Some sort of food or a bento store.
Bento bento shop.
Yeah.
And he's basically saying, like, well, I'm up at 04:00 A.m., and then we work until noon, so I'm off by the afternoon. And then we're usually in bed by, like, 08:00 p.m. Or something. So he's like, my day just starts earlier, so I got more free time than other adults seem to. And weather hanging out there's talking and what's that he's got porno because he is a 23 year old. So there's a little embarrassing moment where he's covering up loud. I'm holding those for a friend. Don't judge me. I think it's at this point where he realizes, like, hey, it's weird. I got a ten year old in my bedroom.
Because they keep flashing or they flash forward to satoru's memories of the cops being like and yuki. Did he ever invite you into his home? Did he have anything inappropriate that he saw and sort of building up the accidental whoops he's a perv.
Yeah, like building a cake.
But he's allowed. He's 23, and he just let him have porn in his room. He just shouldn't have a ten year old in his room.
One of these things do not belong, and it's not the boy.
Yeah, it seems like he's also just more of, like an awkward kind of a bumbling character. He, like, stutters a little bit and just seems kind of a loner, like, Century isn't Cayo. So it seems like that's another reason why they get along so quickly. But, yeah, we get flash forwards of him in the future and just in jail and just like, he looks horrendous. It looks like it's really done a number on him. And then what happens? Saturday goes to find Cayo, and since she wasn't at the party no, kayu is the kid. The little bald Canadian kid.
He's that kid. He's four. Each day he grows some more.
We can't go down this road again. We spend way too much time on it. Last time we record it. I refuse to do it again.
At least you guys have been saying.
It right, though, to be honest with.
You, this is why we're recording. We didn't lose the episode. We just kept talking about that damn bald kid for too long and and dugan just couldn't edit it out. Hey, let's do it anyway.
Fucking kaiu. He goes his name is their kid kaiyu. All right?
He goes to kayo's house to try and find her, and he's just walking around the back because I don't think he knocked on the door. And he notices, like, footprints in the back. And he notices, like, her mittens that she didn't have, that she said she didn't have. But they're actually, like, burnt and torn up. And he sees her book bag, and he sees, like, a bunch of footprints leading to a shed. So he runs into the shed and throws it open and sees her lying in there, just in her pajamas. And it snows outside. It's freezing cold outside. So she's just lying in the shed all beaten up and bruised. And that's right when her mom shows up, because she sees him walking around, kind of like, well, first he's trying to talk about like, hey, come on, let's go get you help. And she's like, no, just leave me alone. Don't touch me. Get away from me. Because she's very vulnerable, because she was just abused very physically, unfortunately. And then that's when her mom comes up. It's kind of like, oh, Cayo, what are you doing out here, you crazy girl? You're going to catch a cold. Come on back inside. Like, trying to play it off very smug, like, as if she could pull this over on a ten year old, but anyone with eyes could tell what happened and that she's clearly abusing her daughter because she's a sack of shit.
Also, there's shocker a moment when the mom goes in to pick up kayo, where she shoves satoru out of the way. It's like, okay, there's your evidence right there. The mom just shoved a strange ten year old child so you can go after her.
Now, it's not hard, but it's just so infuriating so many loopholes that the mom's able to navigate around and just barely avoid being caught because it's so blatant that she's abusing her child. And then as she's walking away, kind of calls her out like, hey, what do you do? You're clearly hitting her. What are you trying to do here? And her mom calls her cayenne, is like, oh, tell her what happened. I fell. And it's just a classic line, which, if nothing more, just cements the idea of, like, yes, it's definitely abuse, and it's terrible. And then it cuts right to a scene later that evening of her mom pretty much like waterboarding or forcing her face into a sink full of water and ice to try and reduce the swelling so that way the bruises and welts aren't as obvious and just almost drowning or just stopping just short of it. And at the time, we see. I think it's her mom's boyfriend. It's not clear in this episode, but we find out a little later. He's just sitting in the back watching TV of like, hey, don't waste all the ice on her while he's drinking some sort of, like, whiskey or something.
Some no good nick.
And the mom and the boyfriend have the same reddish eyes that the fedora tipping murderer had. Is this a literal red herring?
Wow.
Mostly just don't trust people with red eyes, so watch out for them, stoners. They're up to something.
Love that. I was going to say love that symbolism, but then you took it in that direction. Damn, boy.
I mean, they could be abusing drugs. We don't know. They're very shitty people. That's all we know about them.
You're right.
And then this is when turo goes to his teacher. The next day at school and tells him, I think kay is getting abused. And the teacher tells him like, yeah, I went through everything I can. I've gone through all the proper channels. I can't do much more without going against the rules and possibly getting fired. So he's like, I agree with you. I'm on the same page. I see it, but I can't do any more, unfortunately.
Liar.
But he's kind of hinting at like, but maybe if you want to, satoru, maybe you can do something. So basically saying, like, me a full grown adult with a job. I can't do any more to help. But maybe a child can. Maybe a child can evade the law as a child. vigilante cop.
Time traveling child. vigilante cop. Thank you very much.
So you break the laws of society and reality.
Great and space time.
So when they get back to class, today is the day. I guess in Japanese schools, it's different rotations of the kids have to do different chores around the classroom to kind of maintain it all and breed a sense of community of like, we all take care of this. So today was Saturu's and cayos, and she wasn't there today. She didn't end up showing up. So he's starting the firing class to warm it up and cleaning everything. And they're also supposed to collect lunch money to hand out lunch. And I guess that pays for everyone's lunch at school. And kayo ends up showing up late. And as she sits down, he notices, like, a bigger welt on the back of her neck where her mom is grabbing her and shoving her head in the water. And then they have lunch after they collect all the money. And then this is when Turkey goes to the teacher. When he comes back, the money is gone. And he realizes, like, I'm a 29 year old. I should have been smarter than to leave all that money and then open desk. He's got no excuse for his dumb kid brain. And then that's when pigtails is what I'm going to call her, because she's just a dumb bully with pigtails.
Dumb bitch.
Dumb ten year old bitch. She starts later calling out Kaya, saying like, hey, the money's gone. Which, how does she know that? And she's saying, well, we should all check our desk and backpacks to make sure no one stole it. And one of sorrow's friends like, I'm not going to check. I know I didn't steal, so why I should check? She's like, good idea. We should check everyone else's stuff. Mostly kayo, like, straight up calling her out. Like, check Caillus. Because she's poor, and probably she's poor.
She has a motive to steal the money.
Yeah, poor idiot. Poor kid.
So kayu checks her bag and shirt off. That's where the money is. And it's like, Ha, I told you she stole it. She has the money.
And everyone starts the money in the backpack.
Oh, no, and everyone's like, oh, no. She's like she's agreeing with the bully. And then Saturday just kind of, like, snaps. And she's like, what the hell is wrong with you? What do you think you're doing? Like, going after her. Just because she's kind of like a tough home life doesn't mean you can just accuse her of the and just kind of, like, rambles off on her. And she kind of gets taken back and is holding back tears because good. No one stood up to her, I guess, and just laid into her like.
That teacher a lesson.
Yeah, so he's, like, very emotional and just kind of screams at her. And then Kenya, because he's got that tactical turtleneck. He's just too smart for his own damn good calls.
Tactical turtleneck watch.
A lot of archer. He basically says, like, hey, anyone could have stolen that money and planted it on her. Just because it's on her backpack doesn't prove anything. And that's when teacher collapse. And it's like, yes, she was supposed to collect the money with satoru, so it makes sense that she would have it because they collected it. And of course that's why she has it and tries to just get everyone past this real quick to draw less attention to it. And then afterwards, we get a little scene of them of sator and Coyote taking out the trash together. And she's kind of saying, why the bullies always after her? Because she would always brag about being so rich and having this big tree. And she never had anything she's never had a Christmas tree in her life and all this stuff.
The rich girl just has a big tree.
She's got a big old tree, and she was talking about how great her pencils were one day and rubbing it in kylie's face just to throw him out the window. Just like, fuck you. So she's always had a grudge against.
Her fuck you when you're mechanical pencil.
So we get, like, a nice bonding moment of them taken out the trash while talking about trash, aka the girl with pigtails. And when she says she's never had a Christmas tree, this is when the tour gets the idea of, like, oh, I know of a great tree. It's after Christmas, but I'll take you to see a big old Christmas tree out in the woods, and then it just cuts right to them as they're, like, climbing through the woods or mountainous area. I don't know. It's just very far from, like, the city, you know?
He's trying not to get her murdered, but he's like, come with me into.
The woods where no one can find you helpful.
Just go on this hike, middle of the night.
It's really sweet at the end, but I thought about this. I was like, yeah, it's not great.
Yeah, it's really like I mean, I guess it's because no one's been murdered yet, but his mom just really lets him do whatever.
Well, I don't it was the 88. This is before everyone hovered over their kids.
I guess this is before the Internet and pedophiles existed. It was safer to them.
This is before the murder.
Yeah. I don't think they really address it directly, or at least not in these episodes. But his mom's kind of like a working mom. That's why she wasn't surprised when he was already at home when she got back from work, because she kind of works longer hours, so he's kind of like a latchkey kid. So I think it's more like she's still at work when they're going off on this little adventure. Because she works hard, because she's a single mom and she's good at it. She takes care of her child.
She does everything she can for her child.
Lady.
She's had a hard life.
A strong, independent lady.
Don't mean no man Saturu kind of go out into the woods, and as they're climbing up this hill, they see two foxes running at them. And the foxes just start circling around them for a good few minutes and just keep running circles around them. satoro points out, like, hey, now you're here. People believe me when I tell them this happened because no one believed me the last time when I was by myself. So it's a really cool moment of seeing two foxes running around together. And as they get up to the top of the hill, they see this big old tree with all of its leaves gone because it's winter, but there's like a ton of icicles on it hanging off. And you get to really see the stars through them so it looks like it's glowing like Christmas lights. So he says, like, here's your big Christmas tree. Like a little bonding moment. And then Kyle is kind of like rubbing her hands together to try and get them warm again. And that's when sort of gives her his gloves and we see his name on them try and warm her hands since he saw that hers were broken because her mom's a bitch. And so we get this, like, really lovely shot, like at the end of them staring up in the street, just having a nice heartfelt moment. She kind of calls him Dumb because he's so affectionate and caring for it. She doesn't know how to properly show emotion because she's only known abuse because her life is terrible.
I do the same thing, though. I don't know how to deal with my emotions. So I just I'm like, you idiot. I love you so much, you idiot.
Or anytime someone compliments you, it's like, oh, you have nice hair. It's like why? What are you getting at? What is in this for you?
What are you selling to me?
What do you mean?
But yeah, that's episode three.
We went over this last time I recorded, but I was very into this show. Yes, it was just enough supernatural stuff because I'm used to anime is just hitting you over the head with magic powers. And this is just like a set up of, okay, he can time travel and he's back in time.
That's all the sci-fi supernatural elements on it. There's, like nothing else. Yeah.
So when it turned from, okay, this guy just saves the day all the time into just a single, like, long term murder mystery has to solve, I was super into it.
Oh, that's good to hear.
Yeah, same.
It's one of my favorite shows by far, and I really enjoy it. But I don't know if it's because I was basically raised on Law and Order svu or not. So I'm curious to see people who don't have that weird proclivity watch it.
Like I said, I watched episode four. So, I mean, I'm continuing on because it's not that long. And also I really want to know what happened. Yeah, I like a mystery.
Still a mystery.
And it's also one of the few animes that I think actually had a pretty decent live action adaptation, especially for Netflix, because there's so little supernatural elements is, you know, like we said, it's basically the premise to get him back into his child's body and then that's it. So I heard the live action is really well done.
Nice.
Yeah.
Good.
So we are there yet?
We're there.
We be there.
We've there now.
Weebly blow.
It's getting worse.
Wow.
Just pirate anime. anyways.
Oh, we got to watch one.
Continuing to devolve.
Do we have the time?
I do plan on showing you guys one piece, but I'm just going to cherry pick, like, three really good episodes because there's like 800. So I don't expect anyone to watch it. I don't expect anyone to start watching one piece. You've been watching it for five years now.
We sort of glossed over the housekeeping stuff. This is our second time doing it. But thank you for joining us as we relived the memories of this episode.
We recorded before we learned to relive with anime survival.
And we went back in time. Learned to relive with anime.
There we go. What do we have going on next week? dana?
Next week, no surprise to you guys, we're watching Black Butler Sheetsuji.
No way.
If you're feeling fancy free in Japanese, hero sheet suji.
I like that.
Yeah. So we're watching episodes one, four and five because episodes two and three don't matter.
Go to no, we haven't skipped around in a little bit. It's good to be back.
Yeah, back to the original format being.
Tossed around in chaos.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's all happening.
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